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Post by Bogatan on Mar 28, 2017 19:47:16 GMT
It should be interesting. FP showed plenty of unused concepts over the years but there was always the sense they couldn't tell all for obvious reasons now that Petes not working for FP can open up.
Or at least is going to claim he'll spill all in order to get people through the door.
Its quite possible this is just an evolution of his "This is the best botcon set ever." Followed after the show by " Yeah there were some problem with the set. It was okay I guess."
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Post by browny87 on Mar 28, 2017 19:47:26 GMT
yeah good point jetty, heres what you could've had if we hadn't been canceled kinda thing
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Post by Benn on Mar 28, 2017 19:55:22 GMT
For some reason the name 'Pete's Robot Convention' still bugs me. Like, everyone is supposed to know who Pete is?
Ugh.
Anyways, yeah, in effect saying to folks "Look what Hasbro stopped you having" seems like a dick move designed to piss as many people as possible off.
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Post by The Doctor on Mar 28, 2017 20:32:11 GMT
I strongly suspect year 2 of 'Pete's Robot Convention' will be called 'Botcon 2018'.
-Ralph
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Post by Toph on Apr 18, 2017 16:21:33 GMT
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Post by Philip Ayres on Apr 18, 2017 16:28:19 GMT
Phil or Pete making it all up?
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Post by Toph on Apr 18, 2017 16:41:33 GMT
Pete's making this up.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Apr 18, 2017 16:51:16 GMT
Nobody would want that Voyager Op a third time! (Fourth if you include Octane!)
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Post by Bogatan on Apr 18, 2017 16:55:51 GMT
I would. Though probably not that Actionmaster Prime.
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Post by blueshift on Apr 18, 2017 17:02:40 GMT
I think the phrase 'likely would have been developed' pretty much states this as fact. He's saying this is what he and the people who usually come up with exclusives probably would have pitched, no more, no less. And I'd assume had they, Hasbro would have said "no, we're already using that Prime mold a million times"
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Post by Toph on Apr 18, 2017 17:05:15 GMT
I would prefer that Actionmaster over the generic Prime deco that was released. I would also take it as: Octane Scourge Toxitron Oiler DOTM Megatron Staxx Staks
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Post by Bogatan on Apr 18, 2017 17:09:02 GMT
Oh its better than the retail release, but I want my Hero Prime version.
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Post by Toph on Apr 18, 2017 17:09:07 GMT
I think the phrase 'likely would have been developed' pretty much states this as fact. He's saying this is what he and the people who usually come up with exclusives probably would have pitched, no more, no less. And I'd assume had they, Hasbro would have said "no, we're already using that Prime mold a million times" Yeah but they advertized this as "See what would have been!" Which reads as "this is exactly what we had planned for Botcon 2017 if Hasbro hadn't denied it to you by taking the license away from us." I have no doubt this is something they might have pitched. But that's not how they present it. At least not in initially.
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Post by The Doctor on Apr 18, 2017 17:32:33 GMT
I think the phrase 'likely would have been developed' pretty much states this as fact. He's saying this is what he and the people who usually come up with exclusives probably would have pitched, no more, no less. And I'd assume had they, Hasbro would have said "no, we're already using that Prime mold a million times" One might say that whether or not this is a thing that would have happened, using the term BOTCON in your press releases (which will help your event pop in certain Google searches) is a way to bring attention to a first-time event. One might say that. -Ralph
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jun 24, 2017 18:01:36 GMT
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Post by The Doctor on Jun 24, 2017 18:51:47 GMT
"Botcon 2017" my hairy ass.
-Ralph
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Post by Toph on Jun 24, 2017 19:33:31 GMT
I need that hotshot, optimus, onyx, and tapes.
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Post by Jim on Jun 24, 2017 20:27:58 GMT
Of all the times to take FunPub out of the picture it had to be just before they could do a bunch of Action Master homages. Aargh!
-Jim
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jun 24, 2017 20:36:42 GMT
"Botcon 2017" my hairy ass. -Ralph Hence the quote marks. I'd have bought the **** out of these but don't believe they were actually in developent for one second.
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Post by Toph on Jun 24, 2017 21:03:00 GMT
"Botcon 2017" my hairy ass. -Ralph Hence the quote marks. I'd have bought the **** out of these but don't believe they were actually in developent for one second. Agreed.
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Post by Jim on Jun 24, 2017 21:29:26 GMT
I agree too, though mostly because it comforts me to think they wouldn't have made these anyway
-Jim
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Post by Llama God on Jun 25, 2017 0:53:47 GMT
I can only assume that Pete has spent his down time finally learning what Transformers actually are. Otherwise we'd've got stuff of this calibre a hell of a lot earlier. The attention seeking prick.
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Post by Toph on Jun 25, 2017 0:54:24 GMT
As been said before, I don't believe for a second that this is definitively what Botcon 2017 would have been, which is what it's being billed as. That's disingenuous at best, and an outright lie at worst.
What I do feel though, is this is a look at what a botcon set could be, without Brian's asinine input mudding things up, and without Hasbro's general restrictions (reasonable or not). Because this would be the most coherent and strongest themed set, since Shattered Glass. Actionmasters, Pretenders, and UT, and completely unified by all being TR. Even Animated wasn't this coherent.
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Post by blueshift on Jun 25, 2017 8:16:06 GMT
What I do feel though, is this is a look at what a botcon set could be, without Brian's asinine input mudding things up, and without Hasbro's general restrictions (reasonable or not). That's the thing. The plans we hear of have ALWAYS been better than what we've got, as the plans need to take into account: i) What the rest of Fun Pub team want ii) What Hasbro want iii) What molds are available Plenty of exciting-sounding exclusives were scuppered by all three of those. For example, I can't for the life of me seeing Hasbro wanting FP to make that Optimus Prime. It would rival extremely similar Prime figures just released in their boxset, and the mold would have probably been in use pumping them all out We'd have ended up with a set that was half of those and half... I dunno. Energon molds.
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Jun 25, 2017 8:56:15 GMT
Yeah, this is clearly, we might have done this had we been allowed to.
Utter bullshit claims about it being what their set would have been.
They look very nice though.
Andy
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Post by Kingoji on Jun 25, 2017 9:06:07 GMT
I dunno. I think Pete's often-stated desire to eventually update all of the Action Masters has lead to some pretty ill-fitted reuses here. Speaking as someone who loves Action Masters and has always adored Skyfall, I'm not sure I'd have wanted any of these.
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Post by blueshift on Jun 25, 2017 9:26:27 GMT
I dunno. I think Pete's often-stated desire to eventually update all of the Action Masters has lead to some pretty ill-fitted reuses here. Speaking as someone who loves Action Masters and has always adored Skyfall, I'm not sure I'd have wanted any of these. It cant be a real Botcon set, there's no pointless Shattered Glass characters
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jun 25, 2017 11:30:48 GMT
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Post by blueshift on Jun 25, 2017 12:12:46 GMT
I think this more accurately showcases Funpub's inability to have any sort of coherant theme, and shovel shattered glass into anything and everything I enjoy how every single theme on their proposal list includes a Shattered Glass Galvatron.
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Post by Bogatan on Jun 25, 2017 12:21:44 GMT
SG had proved such a big hit in 2008 they knew any SG offered as an add on would sell. So if they couldnt fill out a set with the toys they wanted it was a safe bet.
They also liked the second add on slot for toys they had missed out on in previous years. Thundercracker had missed out for some reason the year before which is why it took a slot.
But yes the lack of theme is what hurt them long term. Up till 2011 I can recall most of every set without difficulty, after I'm lucky if I can recall half of each years or remember which year a toy is from.
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