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Post by Andy Turnbull on Dec 14, 2015 17:08:16 GMT
Trailer is up
I expect to hear Ralph's rage-filled outburst any minute now...
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Post by The Doctor on Dec 14, 2015 17:17:07 GMT
Oh for fuck sakes.
-Ralph
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Dec 14, 2015 17:24:23 GMT
Admirable levels of restraint there chum. Andy |
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Post by Kingoji on Dec 14, 2015 17:35:03 GMT
Ah, I dunno. As I understand it Simon Pegg had a hand in the writing of this one, so maybe it might be worth the look. And it does look like there's some level of exploring involved, even if it is a forced, stranded, fighting for survival kind of exploration, rather than through choice.
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Post by The Doctor on Dec 14, 2015 17:50:03 GMT
Admirable levels of restraint there chum. Andy Just looks like a crap movie but a new TV show is in the offing so hope is high for that. -Ralph |
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Post by Benn on Dec 14, 2015 18:17:39 GMT
That is the least Star Trek thing I have seen in a good long time.
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Post by Kingoji on Dec 14, 2015 18:23:27 GMT
Since Into Darkness?
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Post by blueshift on Dec 14, 2015 18:54:51 GMT
So uh, what's it about?? I just watched the trailer and have no idea
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Post by blueshift on Dec 14, 2015 19:01:33 GMT
911 WAS AN INSIDE JOB!!! WAKE UP SHEEPLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Post by The Doctor on Dec 14, 2015 20:11:48 GMT
So uh, what's it about?? I just watched the trailer and have no idea The Enterprise is destroyed or severely damaged by Bad Alien People and the crew must fend for themselves on a Savage Alien World. Hijinks ensue. -Ralph |
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Post by Toph on Dec 14, 2015 20:14:21 GMT
And McCoy has to die alone
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Post by legios on Dec 14, 2015 20:18:06 GMT
So uh, what's it about?? I just watched the trailer and have no idea Explosions! Punching! Rock music! Explosions! Evil Aliens! Rock Music! Fighting! Rock Music! Motoooooorrrrcyccccclllleee! Rock Music! That was agonisingly generic as trailers go. Genuinely felt like it was a set of stock parts socketed together and left in their primer coats without even an attempt to make it look like it is anything other than stock bits. Karl |
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Post by Kingoji on Dec 14, 2015 20:33:20 GMT
David Sobolov notes that it seems rather influenced by Guardians of the Galaxy. I can't think of anything that should be LESS influenced by Guardians of the Galaxy.
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Post by Benn on Dec 14, 2015 22:19:04 GMT
Going on the basis of that trailer, Into Darkness is perfect Star Trek.
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Post by Dezzeh on Dec 16, 2015 9:53:16 GMT
Though Karl Urban is a fantastic Bones.
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Dec 16, 2015 15:48:55 GMT
Karl Urban is always good value.
Andy
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Post by Benn on Dec 16, 2015 15:54:49 GMT
The main cast has been pretty much spot on I feel. Badly served by the scripts though.
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Post by Bogatan on Dec 16, 2015 20:01:01 GMT
Pegg on writing duty means it just can't be as bad in every way possible as Darkness was.
I quite enjoyed Lins work on Fast and Furious and apparently Community so I'm not concerned about that either.
I'm quite looking forward to it really.
Trailer is very not Trekky though.
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Post by Toph on Dec 16, 2015 21:20:13 GMT
Honestly, I think they should have just waited until the Star Wars hype dies down a bit and people have it out of their systems, then release a proper trailer.
As it is, people on a Star Wars high will bash *anything* Trek*, no matter how good or bad it is. It's always best to not only stay under their radar, but DON'T HELP IT BY RELEASING MEDIOCRITY.
*At least that's been my experience. I've never met a SW only fan who wasn't a huge asshole to me the second they find out I like Trek.
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Post by blueshift on Dec 16, 2015 21:24:21 GMT
Honestly, I think they should have just waited until the Star Wars hype dies down a bit and people have it out of their systems, then release a proper trailer. I suppose alternately people are in a 'receptive to sci-fi' mood? |
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Post by Kingoji on Dec 16, 2015 21:32:28 GMT
I'd consider myself a Star Wars fan more than a Star Trek fan, but I like Trek fine. The original crew stuff especially.
And I MEAN the ORIGINAL crew.
No, I DON'T mean Pike. Shut up.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Dec 16, 2015 21:34:11 GMT
*At least that's been my experience. I've never met a SW only fan who wasn't a huge asshole to me the second they find out I like Trek. When I was younger it was more you're either a sci fi fan, and like everything to some degree, or you're not. I think there's been some recent dividing up into fiefdoms but if anything that's more due to the American influences on the internet and the fans that have come through in the last 20 years or so and the wider spread of sci fi culture |
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Post by Toph on Dec 16, 2015 22:12:14 GMT
*At least that's been my experience. I've never met a SW only fan who wasn't a huge asshole to me the second they find out I like Trek. When I was younger it was more you're either a sci fi fan, and like everything to some degree, or you're not. I think there's been some recent dividing up into fiefdoms but if anything that's more due to the American influences on the internet and the fans that have come through in the last 20 years or so and the wider spread of sci fi culture That's generally the attitude of all the trek fans I know. You're either receptive and a fan of everything, willing to give it all a shot, or you're friendly with other fandoms even if you don't enjoy that particular thing. I don't mind good natured rivalries, at all. It can be kinda fun when at the end of the day, everyone's good friends. But yeah. I've known my share of SW fans who've treated me like shite once they find our I'm a trekkie. Taking every opportunity to bash it and tear me down. (My only real problem with Star Wars itself, though I don't personally enjoy it, is disney's mass marketing campaign has exhausted me of a movie that's not even open. SW being slapped on EVERYTHING. Soup commercials, car commercials, cellular data plan commercials. I'm not making this up, either. Something SW is literally every other commercial on american TV) Maybe it's different in other countries, or even other states. But, yeah. |
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Post by Baron B of Triple B on Dec 16, 2015 23:22:08 GMT
When I was younger it was more you're either a sci fi fan, and like everything to some degree, or you're not. I think there's been some recent dividing up into fiefdoms but if anything that's more due to the American influences on the internet and the fans that have come through in the last 20 years or so and the wider spread of sci fi culture That's generally the attitude of all the trek fans I know. You're either receptive and a fan of everything, willing to give it all a shot, or you're friendly with other fandoms even if you don't enjoy that particular thing. I don't mind good natured rivalries, at all. It can be kinda fun when at the end of the day, everyone's good friends. But yeah. I've known my share of SW fans who've treated me like shite once they find our I'm a trekkie. Taking every opportunity to bash it and tear me down. (My only real problem with Star Wars itself, though I don't personally enjoy it, is disney's mass marketing campaign has exhausted me of a movie that's not even open. SW being slapped on EVERYTHING. Soup commercials, car commercials, cellular data plan commercials. I'm not making this up, either. Something SW is literally every other commercial on american TV) Maybe it's different in other countries, or even other states. But, yeah. That's just a marketing thing though. The Transformers films are the same, I even found tissues with one of the TF films plastered on it last week. It's not been as bad in the UK, a much smaller market to be fair, so I've not felt overwhelmed with it. Personally, I can't wait for the new SW movie. Although there's no way it can live up to my expectations. I'm with you regarding the ST trailer. It's a loud trailer that tells absolutely nothing. It doesn't look promising. That could be a good thing, Into Darkness promised so much and was a bit of a let down. |
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Post by Toph on Dec 17, 2015 0:11:50 GMT
No.
Just... No. The marketing is not like with transformers. Or Jurassic World, or Hunger Games, Harry Potter, or any other massive blockbuster franchise.
It may be over there (as you said, smaller market), but I've *never* seen anything on this level of intensity here. The marketing on this new movie has reached levels I never knew possible.
It's not just "special edition potato chips with yoda on the bag!" Like we get for Ironman and other movies (though there is that). It's things you never would think to use star wars to advertise, like the cellular data plans I mentioned earlier. Not even SW themed data plans, or comes with a SW phone case or something.
And it's this intense, every third commercial on TV is this level.
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Post by Baron B of Triple B on Dec 17, 2015 0:39:20 GMT
No. Just... No. The marketing is not like with transformers. Or Jurassic World, or Hunger Games, Harry Potter, or any other massive blockbuster franchise. It may be over there (as you said, smaller market), but I've *never* seen anything on this level of intensity here. The marketing on this new movie has reached levels I never knew possible. It's not just "special edition potato chips with yoda on the bag!" Like we get for Ironman and other movies (though there is that). It's things you never would think to use star wars to advertise, like the cellular data plans I mentioned earlier. Not even SW themed data plans, or comes with a SW phone case or something. And it's this intense, every third commercial on TV is this level. Definitely nothing like that here. Pretty glad of it. We've just had the usual Star Wars logo on random products and a million new toys. You have my sympathies. |
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Post by Toph on Dec 17, 2015 1:32:40 GMT
Most don't use actual footage. There are around fifteen different commercials that end with dads looking lovingly at their kids, then proclaiming "I am your father!"
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Post by Benn on Dec 17, 2015 12:16:51 GMT
We did have Yoda selling mobile phones though, didn't we?
Anyway.
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Post by Baron B of Triple B on Dec 17, 2015 12:38:44 GMT
We did have Yoda selling mobile phones though, didn't we? Anyway. That's right, Vodafone do a Star Wars thing a couple of years back. That was unrelated to a movie though. |
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Dec 17, 2015 18:31:09 GMT
When I was at university some people tried to explain to me the difference between 'sci-fi', 'science-fiction' and 'SF'. I never really understood it.
I was really into both Star Trek (mostly TNG) and Star Wars (special editions) and read loads of the books spinning off from both. My Star Wars enthusiasm peaked with the trailer to 'The Phantom Menace' then steadily declined, and I decided that while Star Trek did good one-part and two-part stories, it wasn't in Babylon 5's league when it came to ongoing sagas. I'm looking forward to seeing 'The Force Awakens' next Tuesday but not as much as I now look forward to new Marvel Studios or Bond movies, which I am much more inclined to make an effort to see the day they first come out.
Martin
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