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Post by Shockprowl on Sept 24, 2009 14:50:45 GMT
I've just read the Search for the Socerer Supream New Avengers TPB. Really enjoyed it. Top story. But I was confusselled by one thing. My spoiler thingy isn't working (why can't I ever get it to work?). So- SPOILERS BELOW During the early stages of events, the New Avengers are sat around having a meeting discussing who should lead them. At the end of the meeting they tell Spiderman that if he doesn't remove his mask, then he would have to leave the team, 'cos none of them wear masks within the team, and they have to trust him. Spiderman eventualy does so, revealing himself to be Peter Parker. Jessica Jones-Cage recognises him and hillarity ensues. Parker also goes on to ask them all to be very carefull with his identity.
My question is: Peter Parker revealed his identity during the Civil War, and he's also taken/or had removed his mask at a few other moments during his time with the Avengers, such as during Breakout, and whilst they were captive in the Savage Land. So why is it all a big deal now all of a sudden again?
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Post by blueshift on Sept 24, 2009 15:12:06 GMT
Aha well in the rather rubbish Spiderman story One More Day, Peter Parker makes a deal with the devil to turn everything back to how it was in the silver age.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Sept 24, 2009 15:16:09 GMT
Fixed ! To use the spoiler function highlight all the text you want spoilered and hit the spoiler button. Alternately have a look at the text for the msg above by editing it and see where I've inserted tags. The answer to your question is One More Day which is a HUGE can of worms. Basicallyt nobody remembers Spiderman's ID anymore and he's no longer married. See Wikpedia for all the gory details |
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Post by Shockprowl on Sept 24, 2009 18:44:19 GMT
Aw thanks guys! I had heard that sumat went down with Mephisto. Explains everything! Thanks boyz!
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Post by Shockprowl on Sept 24, 2009 18:44:46 GMT
And thanks for the spoiler fix!
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Jun 13, 2011 19:24:10 GMT
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jun 13, 2011 20:31:58 GMT
His X-Men was tops. Is the colour panel him? It looks a different style from what I remember him drawing
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jun 13, 2011 20:36:26 GMT
Marvel's Spiderman output is exploding again isn't it? I liked what they did a few years back when they trimmed it to ASM and stuck there.
How they got there in story telling terms is a different matter.....
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Post by The Doctor on Jun 13, 2011 20:52:53 GMT
Joe Mad art is a huge turn-off for me. No thanks.
-Ralph
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Jun 13, 2011 21:32:41 GMT
I think the art is being taken from his pencils (same as Ultimates V3 - although it looks better than it did then - thanks to a bolder colour palette).
Andy
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Post by jameso on Jun 13, 2011 23:54:08 GMT
I used to be a big fan, but haven't liked his recent art. That with the red Hulk (dreadful character) all over the cover and the fact that because of the inevitable delays the trade won't be out for years and will be an expensive hardback at first anyway, I have to say, no thanks.
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Post by primenova on Jun 14, 2011 7:46:11 GMT
Bodies seem to be more bulky compared to when Spiderman showed up in Uncanny X-men back in - i think 1996.
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Post by Kingoji on Jun 14, 2011 13:59:09 GMT
I've been waiting for Mad to do something regular with the wallcrawler since the above-mentioned issue... so I'll be all over this one!
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jul 14, 2011 21:47:07 GMT
SPOILERS FOR SPIDER-MAN: ONE MORE DAYSpider-man makes a deal with the Devil so that his aunt May does not die. This deal means that Peter Parker's marriage to MJ now never happened and no one will ever remember it. The Devil does this because it is the most pure love he has ever known, will feed off the agony of tiny part of Spider-Man that will remember, and because it will piss off God. "I want your pain...I want....YOUR MARRIAGE!" shouts the Devil. There are lots of 'BONG!' time-is-running-out sound effects and the world goes to black as MJ says "You just hit the jackpot, tiger." Peter Parker wakes up, seemingly younger and apparently back at college and Harry Osborne is alive again and his best friend. Friends crowd Peter (including a young Flash Thomson) and tell him how much they love him then they all raise their glasses at a party and shout: "A BRAND NEW DAY!" Apparently, future issues will have MJ as a super-hero called...Jackpot. I swear I am not making this up. -Ralph I haven't bought an issue of ASM since the reboot of BND as I find that a big-turnoff. Voting with wallet. Comics run in cycles so I'm just waiting until that's undone! I can't think of anything that was done in that storyline that couldn't have been done by Peter & MJ (somehow) getting their hands on the cosmic cube fragments (it was destroyed in Captain America something or other) and trying to use them to save May's life but inadvertantly altering the universe. Job done, no devil involved, everyone happy |
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Post by The Doctor on Jul 14, 2011 21:58:21 GMT
Possibly, but I found the One More Day storyline utterly idiotic and borderline offensive, not to mention undoing a marriage which didn't need undoing so dropped ASM. The book's rep has been quite good since: I'm just personally not interested in reading it until OMD is overwritten (which it will be, in time). I just don't care about the reboot Spiderverse full stop: OMD broke the book for me. In the meantime, reprints and the odd out-of-continuity mini fulfil my spider-needs.
-Ralph
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jul 24, 2011 20:37:53 GMT
I've been giving this a lot of thought.......
.... and though I don't like how they did it....
.... but I think I agree that the marriage had to go.
Peter being married to M-J creates problems with the storytelling on the title. It gives him someone to go to who knows he's Spider Man. It removes money issues from Peter's life by marrying him to a superstar model/actress. It (obviously) removes any romantic storyline for Peter all of which are running themes in the comic right up till the point he gets married.
I don't think it was the only problem the book had though.... Peter's supporting cast and villain's rosta had been culled considerably over the years: during the entire time I read JMS's Spider Man I think I saw only Aunt May & M-J. That was it. Brand new day has fixed this by bringing back several characters, giving him some new characters to work with and giving him some well deserved new villains.
So far - and I'm 19 issues into Brand New Day's UK reprint - the stories that are being told using it are superb well above what I was reading in the years prior to it. There's an energy to the title that was missing before.
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Post by The Doctor on Jul 24, 2011 21:22:51 GMT
I had no problem with Spidey being married. He was married for most of the Spider-Man issues I read growing up. Removing that element seems utterly pointless to me and turns the title into a reboot nostalgia-fest. I don't want to read about a Spider-Man who is no longer married for no other reason than because of some bollocks with Mephisto.
-Ralph
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Post by Dave on Jul 26, 2011 13:40:24 GMT
I'm a big Spider-Man fan and used to get my fix from a variety of sources: trades, the Panini reprint and the comic DVD's but I've not read anything post One More/Brand New Day.
I came close to giving up on Spidey before when volume 1 was wrapping up and not only was Baby May not coming back but Aunt May was brought back from the dead - or rather it was claimed that when she died it was really an actress and the real one had been hidden in a cupboard for months or some such bollocks.
This time though... nope I decided that's enough. It didn't need to be done, the marriage was never a problem. Can't do romance storylines? So what? Been there, done that, impregnated the lass in the t-shirt.
The support cast had dropped off but they could have been brought back some other way, that didn't involve regressing the character. Likewise there were still enough villains around, plus others could be introduced without undeadening Harry.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Apr 1, 2016 16:49:58 GMT
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Apr 1, 2016 17:22:02 GMT
Yeah, comic book death and rebirth is tedious in the extreme these days. {Spoiler}
Let's face it Doc Ock back from the dead, is not a surprise, if it is him. |
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Post by blueshift on Apr 1, 2016 17:26:04 GMT
And it's not the first time for him either!!
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Apr 1, 2016 17:27:24 GMT
Indeed not.
Andy
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Post by The Doctor on Apr 6, 2016 14:05:44 GMT
Remember when Aunt May came back from the dead!
-Ralph
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Apr 6, 2016 15:16:18 GMT
ARGH!!!!!!
Andy
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Post by The Doctor on Apr 6, 2016 15:57:19 GMT
Glad to be of service.
-Ralph
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Mar 7, 2019 11:08:23 GMT
This week's new old trades brings so,etching interesting: Genuinely surprised to find those JMS Spider-Man trades hadn't been on Comixology before www.comixology.co.uk/new-comics/2019-03-07?lang=0Nowadays the run is remembered for THAT story, which editorial mucked with, and the ending, which editorial mucked with and JMS took his name off, but I recall stuff before that being quite good! To be fair I think JMS's run dropped around the time JRJr left and he did the whole Sins Past storyline. Certainly not a patch on the early stuff. |
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Post by Philip Ayres on Mar 7, 2019 12:04:53 GMT
Sins Past was what I was referring to with the first lot of editorial interference! Massive misjudgement.
I know I have the first JMS trade in pbk, must pick these up when they hit sale price to remind myself what it was like.
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Post by The Doctor on Mar 7, 2019 12:47:13 GMT
To be fair I think JMS's run dropped around the time JRJr left and he did the whole Sins Past storyline. Certainly not a patch on the early stuff. Exactly. The rot set in there. It was a good run prior to that. -Ralph |
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Post by Philip Ayres on Mar 7, 2019 13:02:01 GMT
I think it's more coincidental than necessarily a factor of loosing JRjr, though that didn't helped.
Sins Past works better as intended before editorial intervened: if they didn't like the reveal of the twins parentage then the story really needed nixing before it started. Then we get some Civil War crossoveritus spoiling things and then it really goes to pot.
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Post by The Doctor on Mar 7, 2019 14:27:25 GMT
Sins Past also coincided with the comic abandoning the traditional monthly storytelling and moving to decompressed 6-month arcs.
A double whammy of crap.
-Ralph
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