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Post by blueshift on Sept 6, 2016 9:45:01 GMT
Everything seems to get repaints nowadays. Apart from the stuff that doesn't. What molds surprised you which never got a repaint. What is your dream repaint of that mold?
For me, it's Jhiaxus. Only ever released in the orange/grey version homaging the Universe (?) version. Never got the G2 repaint. Baffling!!
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Post by Toph on Sept 6, 2016 10:38:08 GMT
Might be a good idea to define "modern."
Because an argument could be made that "modern" begins with Generations 2.0, or Generations 1.0, or Universe 2.0, or RotF, DotM, Generations CW, Generations TR, Cybertron, Energon, or even Armada.
One could even argue that modern began when ball joints and full articulation were introduced in G2 with the Cyberjets, Dreadwing, and the Laserrods.
And should a remold count, as it itself is technically a reuse of a mold. Putting it in the same ballpark as a repaint.
And do same character with only minor adjustments count, such as CW Magnus, with Legends Magnus, and Platinum movie anniversary Magnus?
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Post by blueshift on Sept 6, 2016 10:40:10 GMT
Might be a good idea to define "modern." Because an argument could be made that "modern" begins with Generations 2.0, or Generations 1.0, or Universe 2.0, or RotF, DotM, Generations CW, Generations TR, Cybertron, Energon, or even Armada. One could even argue that modern began when ball joints and full articulation were introduced in G2 with the Cyberjets, Dreadwing, and the Laserrods. Good point. Really it was just to avoid discussion about G1 repaints, rather than repaints you might expect. Hasbro really went repaint-mad RID '01 onwards, I struggle to think of that many figures who haven't been, but there are some surprises! |
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Post by Toph on Sept 6, 2016 10:44:58 GMT
Gen Rhinox
Gen Brainstorm
RtS Lugnut
If we count remolds separately-
Gen Sandstorm
CW Magnus
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Post by Baron B of Triple B on Sept 6, 2016 10:49:51 GMT
Gen Rhinox Gen Brainstorm RtS Lugnut If we count remolds separately- Gen Sandstorm CW Magnus CW Magnus was given a new paint job for the Platinum Autobot Heroes set. For repaint do we mean just the same figure with a different deco but a completely different character? |
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Post by Toph on Sept 6, 2016 10:55:06 GMT
Might be a good idea to define "modern." Because an argument could be made that "modern" begins with Generations 2.0, or Generations 1.0, or Universe 2.0, or RotF, DotM, Generations CW, Generations TR, Cybertron, Energon, or even Armada. One could even argue that modern began when ball joints and full articulation were introduced in G2 with the Cyberjets, Dreadwing, and the Laserrods. Good point. Really it was just to avoid discussion about G1 repaints, rather than repaints you might expect. Hasbro really went repaint-mad RID '01 onwards, I struggle to think of that many figures who haven't been, but there are some surprises! I see Hasbro and Takara reinvent their engineering processes and tricks every so often, which completely changes the line. This is why I consider RiD to be Beast Era because all the new molds use the exact same engineering processes that Beast Wars and Beast Machines do. Then Armada created an entirely new way by relying on ratcheting joints and other similar things, that have been the hallmark of the line until the first movie, which reinvinted a method that was used largely until DotM, which then invented a NEW era of similarly designed toys until AoE. From AoE, all the lines have been fairly simplistic and very cheaty. Hasbro also usually seems reluctant to use molds that existed before these change overs, in more recent years, as well. So I'd hazard to say the true modern molds are AoE to now. |
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Post by Toph on Sept 6, 2016 10:56:20 GMT
Gen Rhinox Gen Brainstorm RtS Lugnut If we count remolds separately- Gen Sandstorm CW Magnus CW Magnus was given a new paint job for the Platinum Autobot Heroes set. For repaint do we mean just the same figure with a different deco but a completely different character? I posed that same point upthread, as well as used Magnus as my specific example. ;p |
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Post by blueshift on Sept 6, 2016 11:01:58 GMT
CW Magnus was given a new paint job for the Platinum Autobot Heroes set. For repaint do we mean just the same figure with a different deco but a completely different character? I'd say that counts as a repaint. It's them getting another use out of the mold. |
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Post by Philip Ayres on Sept 6, 2016 11:57:03 GMT
Beast Wars is really the start of EVERYTHING gets repaints/remoulds.
Of that I can't see anything, beyond a slight Japanses deco tweak, for Insecticon, Snapper, Magnaboss, Manterror, the basic Fuzors, Injector, Scourge, Optimus Minor, Sonar & Scarem. And the basic Skunk who's name escapesme but is all but identical in RID. Everything else has been used again I think
YOU could argue K9 and the Cyberbeasts, but they're remoulds already so....
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Post by Toph on Sept 6, 2016 12:29:01 GMT
I would argue RiD or Armada was the true start of "everything gets repaints."
Beast Wars didn't really have that mindset. The japanese lines were serving a different market and using existing molds to pad out their lines.
Most BM never got repaints. And True, most BW/BM figures have been repainted, it came after during the first Universe, or were trying to come up with cheap product to pad the line (BM Dinobots, Fox Kids repaints, and such).
RiD wasn't even that terribly consistent about repaints either. It really wasn't until Armada that Hasbro genuinely kicked into the "everything *must* have a repaint" mindset.
(And it wasn't until Cybertron that they seemed to start to get the hang of it, but that's just my opinion)
And if you're saying a minor color change like Platinum Magnus is enough to count as separate from CW, then japanese releases should count too, as many often have more dramatic variations than Platinum releases.
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Post by Benn on Sept 6, 2016 15:15:09 GMT
Do you count convention stuff as a repaint/remould? Cuz I don't think Generations Hot Shot got anything, except that Botcon Dion.
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Post by blueshift on Sept 6, 2016 15:44:54 GMT
Do you count convention stuff as a repaint/remould? Cuz I don't think Generations Hot Shot got anything, except that Botcon Dion. It's still a repaint! And yeah that was odd, but then again we never got a proper repaint of Astrotrain and Tankorr either! (I think both got a mild shiny paintjob rerelease in Asia and of course the Henkei ones were different, but everything else from that line got repaints out the wazoo) |
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Post by Philip Ayres on Sept 6, 2016 15:45:40 GMT
If memory serves Hot Shot has major differences between the western and Japanese versions due to the weapons.
Both are rubbish though!
Energon Wing Sabre, Alpha Q and Swoop have never been repainted
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Post by Philip Ayres on Sept 6, 2016 15:48:28 GMT
Rts Perceptor
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Post by Philip Ayres on Sept 6, 2016 15:49:44 GMT
Universe 2 Cheetor & Dinobot (also both rubbish, see Hotrod above)
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Post by Philip Ayres on Sept 6, 2016 15:54:25 GMT
Beast Machines
Deluxe Optimus Primal
Basic Buzzsaw
Basic Longhorn
Basic Hammerhead
Basic Quickstrike
Basic winged lizard thing
Basic Nightviper
Deluxe Beast Changer
deluxe Thrust
Tankor is the only Mega to get repainted
Ultra Nightscream
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Post by Philip Ayres on Sept 6, 2016 15:55:24 GMT
Armada Wheeljack hasn't been repainted enough!
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Post by Philip Ayres on Sept 6, 2016 16:00:21 GMT
Niot sure the Cybertron dinobird has ever been repainted. Or Cybertron's basic flying lizard thing.
Universe 2 Legends Cosmos - rest of his wave has been.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Sept 6, 2016 16:01:51 GMT
And yeah that was odd, but then again we never got a proper repaint of Astrotrain and Tankorr either! (I think both got a mild shiny paintjob rerelease in Asia and of course the Henkei ones were different, but everything else from that line got repaints out the wazoo) Astrotrain became generations book Shouki news.tfw2005.com/2015/10/31/million-publishing-shouki-in-hand-gallery-304755 |
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Post by Philip Ayres on Sept 6, 2016 16:05:58 GMT
Cybertron Menasor and Cybertron Metroplex
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Post by Philip Ayres on Sept 6, 2016 16:24:56 GMT
CW Legends Bombshell. His japanese version has some mild difference but ...
T30 Centuritron
T30 Tankor
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Post by Benn on Sept 6, 2016 16:37:30 GMT
Primus? Did he happen again?
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Post by Philip Ayres on Sept 6, 2016 16:41:13 GMT
There's the 2010 release with Unicron but I think you need the Primus side by side to tell the difference!
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Post by The Doctor on Sept 6, 2016 17:36:51 GMT
Armada Laserbeak!
Did any of the DOTM Human Alliance toys get a repaint?
-Ralph
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Post by Toph on Sept 6, 2016 18:26:56 GMT
Perceptor got a black decepticon repaint in japan |
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Post by The Doctor on Sept 6, 2016 20:05:04 GMT
Did Dinopope or Constructicon Whatshisname from Power Core Combiners get repaints anywhere, maybe in Japanland?
I should have kept my PCC. I actually prefer them to Combiner Wars!
*hides*
-Ralph
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Post by Philip Ayres on Sept 6, 2016 20:11:06 GMT
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Post by Llama God on Sept 6, 2016 20:32:29 GMT
I should have kept my PCC. I actually prefer them to Combiner Wars! *hides* No need to hide. I wouldn't say I like them *more*, but I like them just as much as. Fun combiners, done in a different way. I'm still sad there weren't more. But this is off topic. |
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Post by Philip Ayres on Sept 6, 2016 20:39:46 GMT
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Post by Llama God on Sept 6, 2016 21:17:03 GMT
I knew I'd uttered the right incantation to summon Phil and his superpowers! ;-)
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