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Post by Benn on Oct 26, 2024 18:46:51 GMT
I could see myself getting this 'Bee, I've been on the fence about chasing down the original.
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Post by The Doctor on Oct 26, 2024 19:28:45 GMT
But they've already done a Studio Series Bumblebee Bumblebee! You may have noticed that Hasbro is currently locked in a doom loop of iterations of the same thing over and over. -Ralph |
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Post by Philip Ayres on Oct 26, 2024 19:34:15 GMT
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Post by Philip Ayres on Oct 26, 2024 19:37:22 GMT
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Post by Llama God on Oct 28, 2024 9:07:21 GMT
But they've already done a Studio Series Bumblebee Bumblebee! You may have noticed that Hasbro is currently locked in a doom loop of iterations of the same thing over and over. Yep - this is the moment that Studio Series truly becomes the Transformers version of The Black Series. There's plenty of other characters left to do, but no, they're going back and redoing one they've already done. Oh well. At least we know what the future of Studio Series will bring now... Also, not a fan of this 'Bee - I can't remember what the original version is like, and I know it's been some time since Generations-level figures have actually been able to be used as toy cars, but those arms hanging down and from all appearances raising the car up off the ground is just ridiculous... |
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Post by Llama God on Oct 28, 2024 9:08:03 GMT
I am quite keen to see that AoE Optimus, though - I do have a soft spot for that design. (Even if it's only just because it's different.)
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Post by Toph on Oct 28, 2024 9:43:17 GMT
I am quite keen to see that AoE Optimus, though - I do have a soft spot for that design. (Even if it's only just because it's different.) Ditto. It's the most absurd and unrealistic alt mode in the movie franchise. It looks like a truck exploded, it's so Bay. It's a little more fun. Incredibly silly. And the robot is 100% completely divorced from it. There is not a single scrap of it that carries over into the robot. But that robot, however, is a proper robot. It actually looks like it can withstand a fight. Like it's guts and cogs aren't about to spill out because there's nothing protecting anything vital. It epitomizes Bay. How he actually does address criticisms, but spins so hard that what he turns out has just as many new problems. It does not get more Michael Bay than AoE/TLK Optimus Prime. Only this is one of the few times there's something charming about that. |
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Post by Philip Ayres on Oct 28, 2024 12:42:30 GMT
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Post by Philip Ayres on Nov 11, 2024 17:12:03 GMT
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Nov 11, 2024 17:45:43 GMT
Comes with less accessories than the original deluxe from the look of it.
I think people who buy this may take a hit.
But does include his iconic battle mask.
That one that is as well respected and known as the Wrecker's hammer I hear you ask?
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Post by The Doctor on Nov 11, 2024 18:03:28 GMT
Considering how the movie tanked and this comes out several months later so it would be daft to pay full price anyway.
I expect TFONE stuff to be clogging up discount spaces on and offline this time next year.
-Ralph
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Post by Philip Ayres on Nov 11, 2024 20:44:36 GMT
Incidentally.... Has anyone else noticed that, with the backdrops and numbers, the Studio Series subline branding (86, Gamer Edition) has gone from the packaging? All Studio series now have a film/media logo bottom left |
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Post by The Doctor on Nov 11, 2024 21:53:52 GMT
Um. I don't see what's missing? The new packaging still says Studio Series and indicates what media it comes from. Do you mean the numbering?
-Ralph
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Post by Philip Ayres on Nov 11, 2024 22:21:22 GMT
The Joypad + symbol and the words Gamer Edition above the character name were both branding for the line The Symbol, like the 86, has gone with the number. The Gamer Edition above the character name is replaced by the name of the game it's from which is odd as the game's logo is immediately to it's left |
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Post by Toph on Nov 12, 2024 1:01:03 GMT
Hasbro announced a while back they were doing this.
While I'm pleased the waist of paper and money of a backdrop is gone, I did comment earlier upthread that losing the numbering system makes it way complicated in a line that has multiple releases representing the same character from the same movie.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Nov 12, 2024 8:02:38 GMT
Did they give any indication the Gamer Edition and Studio Series 86 branding was going?
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Post by The Doctor on Nov 12, 2024 8:23:25 GMT
Does it matter? The toys are still being made.
-Ralph
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Post by Philip Ayres on Nov 12, 2024 8:53:46 GMT
Does it matter? The toys are still being made. Interesting question In many ways no I've got some questions in my head about line identity, how it flattens Studio Series into another mixed bag line, ala Legacy, how easy it will be to pick what is Bayverse/86/Gamer which all have their own fans not interested in the other, how this may impact civilians buying the right thing for major characters. I'm also thinking about what this says about where and how Studio Series is going. I'm conscious that the last (highest) numbered Studio Series toy was a Bumblebee, who was also SS01. There feels a bit of a line in the sand/soft reboot moment going on, possibly with Studio Series trying to work out how to survive having done a vast number of Movie toys There's some more stuff there but head is thick with cold again today and that's all of prized out so far |
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Post by Llama God on Nov 12, 2024 9:18:44 GMT
Aye, that is good point - what is there now to differentiate Generations from Studio Series? The line was indeed pretty vague as it was, especially when we had things like Galvatron and Cyclonus in Earthrise and Scourge in Studio Series, now there's even less. The backdrops might have been fairly pointless, but again they were a nice differentiator and made it seem like these were slightly more premium figures - now even that pretense has been dropped. You also have to wonder where the cost savings of adding those backdrops has gone, given the price of the figures themselves have not gone down. I think we all know where. So it all feels a little odd now.
Generally, though, I think we'll just end up seeing the main Generations line and Studio Series merged into one Generations line, to truly become the one Black Series for Transformers collectors' line that they've been clearly working towards for some time now. With everything that concept brings with it.
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Post by The Doctor on Nov 12, 2024 9:36:25 GMT
They're still called Studio Series. They still identify where they come from with helpful logos. I honestly can't see any issue at all here.
-Ralph
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Post by Philip Ayres on Nov 12, 2024 10:50:20 GMT
I can see that for some it won't be an issue. But for others it will
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Post by Philip Ayres on Nov 12, 2024 10:57:34 GMT
I'll be interested to see if TakaraTomy continue their own numbering, which has been different to the Hasbro system, and, if they do, if they'll continue to count Gamer Edition separately tfwiki.net/wiki/Studio_Series#TakaraTomy_Studio_Series_toylineTakaraTomy have always had SS86 in the main numbering. Gamer edition has been counted separately as SS GE-01, SS GE-02 etc |
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Post by legios on Nov 12, 2024 18:15:45 GMT
Does it matter? The toys are still being made. Interesting question In many ways no I've got some questions in my head about line identity, how it flattens Studio Series into another mixed bag line, ala Legacy, how easy it will be to pick what is Bayverse/86/Gamer which all have their own fans not interested in the other, how this may impact civilians buying the right thing for major characters. I*'m not sure I see this as much of an issue. They'll either ask someone in Target/Wallmart/Kwikemart who either will or will not be able to give them anything in the way of a steer, and/or just buy something that says "Transformers <Noun>, <noun>, <Name of Character" on the box because one <Insert Character Name> is the same as another <insert character name> to them. Hasbro get paid no matter which they buy, so I'm not sure that this is actually a problem for either the producer or purchaser. To civilians it is basically a case of "The Red Truck Robot", "The Yellow car guy", "The Baddie Robot" and "The Jet Plane Baddie robot". They may or may not be able to put names to them, and probably aren't bothered about fine distinctions between one toy of "The Red Truck Robot" and another. And in all honesty, that is probably fine? Karl |
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Post by legios on Nov 12, 2024 18:24:35 GMT
Aye, that is good point - what is there now to differentiate Generations from Studio Series? When it started there was at least a clear demarcation line - it was the line for the Live Action movie nostalgia stuff, whilst Generations was the previous toy lines and cartoons nostalgia stuff. But at this point, with the first animated movie stuff being in Studio Series, and stuff based on character models from there being in Legacy because it is "from Season Three" of "G1"(presumably)... Yeah, we are approaching distinction that makes no difference really. Would it make much odds if they just labelled everthing "Transformers: Legacy" and had done with it? Karl |
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Post by Toph on Nov 12, 2024 19:32:16 GMT
Studio Series' goal is to produce figures that are highly accurate to the character models of the media they represent.
They're intended to look like the movie/cartoon/game they're taken from, while regular flavor Generations does not have that limitation and can change bits of the design to make it work better, be more interesting, or take from a different source.
G1 doesn't work for Studio Series because MP is already doing that better, they aren't really a style, and Sunbow designs aren't that good.
But Studio would hit pretty hard if they did shows that were much more stylized, such as TFA, TFP, Earthspark, and Beast Machines.
In fact, I still fully believe that Earthspark should have been included from it's conception, instead of giving the collector/older kid toys a few low quality throwaway deluxes.
I've never seen Studio Series as exclusively a Bayverse line, and I feel that treating it as such limits it's potential.
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Post by that_bluestreak on Nov 12, 2024 20:04:47 GMT
Aye, that is good point - what is there now to differentiate Generations from Studio Series? When it started there was at least a clear demarcation line - it was the line for the Live Action movie nostalgia stuff, whilst Generations was the previous toy lines and cartoons nostalgia stuff. But at this point, with the first animated movie stuff being in Studio Series, and stuff based on character models from there being in Legacy because it is "from Season Three" of "G1"(presumably)... Yeah, we are approaching distinction that makes no difference really. Would it make much odds if they just labelled everthing "Transformers: Legacy" and had done with it? Karl still 100% too much. just 'transformers', insomuch! |
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Post by Philip Ayres on Nov 19, 2024 19:26:06 GMT
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Post by Philip Ayres on Nov 19, 2024 21:13:49 GMT
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Post by The Doctor on Nov 19, 2024 22:27:45 GMT
"You must protect the McGuffin!"
-Ralph
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Post by Shockprowl on Nov 19, 2024 22:29:48 GMT
WE SEEK PEACEFUL COEXISTENCE!
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