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Post by drmick on Jul 13, 2018 23:53:28 GMT
Given that the extra roof just hangs off the back as unnecessary kibble in robot mode, I wonder if the the figure has a yet unrevealed 3rd mode/function?
I recall the Combiner Wars version reveal getting a similar lukewarm reception before we learned of the Combiner gimmick.
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Jul 14, 2018 0:26:51 GMT
Not feeling Optimus.
Sideswipe looks good.
Andy
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Post by Toph on Jul 14, 2018 1:44:29 GMT
Okay. As I mentioned earlier, we've had the iconic Optimus design as a Legion, a Legend, two scout equivalents, a deluxe, a leader, and THREE masterpieces in two scales. And now finally as a voyager.
Can we get a completely new design for the next go round? Or at least an homage to a non-g1/g2 optimus, like Armada? I mean, I'm not thrilled with this guy because it's such a weird truck. Cyberpunk is not a look I imaged for Optimus. But I am happy we're finally getting the iconic design in the size class it should have been released in first. But since all size classes are finally complete, and all other Optimi are now heavily influenced by this design too (the generic evergreen design for the three or four kid lines replacing Aligned), can Generations put it to rest for a while?
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jul 14, 2018 6:28:31 GMT
Given that the extra roof just hangs off the back as unnecessary kibble in robot mode, I wonder if the the figure has a yet unrevealed 3rd mode/function? There's a lot of clear plastic in the hat, I wonder if there's some light up stuff in there? I also wonder if it's removable....
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jul 14, 2018 6:53:18 GMT
Oh there's some top trawling of Burns going on here...."Photo-Pulser Proton Launcher weapon" hmmm. That sounds an awful lot like a " electron-pulse gun" It's interesting that there's a weapon missing from the pictures, which immediately sets off a hidden gimmick alert for me. I did wonder if it was something like a HandFootGun: Sideswipe is after all one of the few Diaclone Autobots not to get a CW/POTP version. One of the first things I said to Karl was "is he a combiner limb" I could see that chest covering a combiner port. Hasbro did promise us the older gimicks would be back occasionally: TFW2005 Interview with John Warden and Ben Montano - Transformers News - TFW2005Then as I was lying in bed last night it suddenly hit me that if he, or any other WFC toy, was meant to complete a POTP combiner, he wouldn't need a HFG. There's 3 spare POTP Torsos and 6+ spare limbs, effectively themed two per torso - Powermaster jets with Starscream, Fembots with Elita-1, Jazz & Wreck-Gar with Inferno. Each of the deluxes there brings a hand, the torso provides the feet, any extra limb bot would just need to supply the limb.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jul 14, 2018 6:57:25 GMT
Given that the extra roof just hangs off the back as unnecessary kibble in robot mode, I wonder if the the figure has a yet unrevealed 3rd mode/function? There's a lot of clear plastic in the hat, I wonder if there's some light up stuff in there? "Photo-Pulser Proton Launcher weapon" light up weapons?
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jul 14, 2018 7:09:25 GMT
There's some product numbers from last night too, in the file names for the photos, and seemingly the toys are numbered too: E3550 Transformers: Generations War for Cybertron: Siege Battle Masters WFC-S1 Firedrive
E3520 Transformers: Generations War for Cybertron: Siege Deluxe Class WFC-S10 Sideswipe
E3541 Transformers: Generations War for Cybertron: Siege Voyager Class WFC-S11 Optimus Prime One of the few changes the Japanese made to the POTP figures this year was a sticker with PP and a number on it. Looks like the number is now going on toys worldwide. Also note the number is WFC. Not Siege. And to have a siege, don't you need a fortress or a base to be besieged in?
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Post by Shockprowl on Jul 14, 2018 7:46:19 GMT
I thought that was Masterpiece Sideswipe for a second, very nice. Optimus looks decent in robot mode, though I fear he has a huge backpack. Backpacks aren't as bad as arse-flaps, but still...
We must be due a Prowl....
And 'Seige' makes me think of The Sentry.
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Post by Llama God on Jul 14, 2018 8:02:49 GMT
And to have a siege, don't you need a fortress or a base to be besieged in? Maybe that's what the Micromasters are for? They'll have bases that the bigger bots can put under siege? Because they're all fighting over the powers that the Micromasters provide. That'd be novel...
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Post by Pinwig on Jul 14, 2018 9:14:14 GMT
Also note the number is WFC. Not Siege. Yes, but it's WFC-S. I wonder why they've decided that they now need numerical identifiers for everything.
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Post by The Doctor on Jul 14, 2018 9:26:25 GMT
Oh! Is it a voyager? I'd just assumed leader. If it's a Voyager I'll have it for the robot mode. That'll look good in the display. It's a good looking op. A truck with a hat though is indeed disappointing as an alt mode. I mean, who wears hats these days anyway? I do because otherwise I find it hard to see when it is bright. Baseball caps help a lot to add some shade due to the brim. -Ralph
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Post by The Doctor on Jul 14, 2018 9:29:27 GMT
Also note the number is WFC. Not Siege. Yes, but it's WFC-S. I wonder why they've decided that they now need numerical identifiers for everything. To target the 'adult collectors' part of the market! -Ralph
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Post by The Doctor on Jul 14, 2018 9:30:59 GMT
And to have a siege, don't you need a fortress or a base to be besieged in? Yup, though the last time 'siege' was used for a TF product there was no base element so it may be they don't know what the word means! -Ralph
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Post by Benn on Jul 14, 2018 9:45:58 GMT
I could have seen myself picking up Sideswipe to replace the Generations one (I never liked that one's head), but... Masterpiece exixts. I know this is a cheaper price point but...
I dunno. Right now this is a nope from me.
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Post by drmick on Jul 14, 2018 11:02:46 GMT
That Sideswipe alt mode is taken straight out of what 10yr-old me thought Lamborghini's would like in the future!
(Actually I hoped all cars would look like that I the future......).
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jul 14, 2018 11:44:15 GMT
Interetesting looking at the older rumours. Aside from the Blind box thing, which looks like confusion, that first rumour is looking bang on the money. E3550 Transformers: Generations War for Cybertron: Siege Battle Masters WFC-S1 Firedrive
E3520 Transformers: Generations War for Cybertron: Siege Deluxe Class WFC-S10 Sideswipe
E3541 Transformers: Generations War for Cybertron: Siege Voyager Class WFC-S11 Optimus Prime
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Post by The Doctor on Jul 14, 2018 18:02:41 GMT
There is no Siege line, Phil. Stop lying.
-Ralph
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Post by The Doctor on Jul 14, 2018 18:06:26 GMT
Has anyone translated the Cybertronian writing on the rubble near Prime's feet yet?
-Ralph
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Post by Toph on Jul 14, 2018 18:09:43 GMT
If the pegs don't fit, you must've quit.
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Post by The Doctor on Jul 14, 2018 18:11:08 GMT
I refuse to accept Hasbro has made a line where the gimmick is about swapping weapons around via The Millimetres!!! Especially after dodging the Longtooth bullet in POTP!!!
-Ralph
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jul 14, 2018 18:13:08 GMT
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Post by The Doctor on Jul 14, 2018 18:16:37 GMT
Bit of a stretch!
-Ralph
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Jul 14, 2018 21:40:22 GMT
Of the millimetres?
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jul 15, 2018 8:10:53 GMT
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Post by drmick on Jul 15, 2018 8:43:40 GMT
It seems they are going back and starting to re-do the worst of the CHUG molds. Fair play to them.
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Post by Kingoji on Jul 15, 2018 8:50:06 GMT
How were Wheeljack and Hound the worst?
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Post by Kingoji on Jul 15, 2018 8:54:26 GMT
Well, regardless... So far this line has nothing for me. I was hoping they'd keep on going with the late 80's early 90's guys that never see updates otherwise. I don't need more of the Ark-Worthy.
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Post by drmick on Jul 15, 2018 9:23:29 GMT
How were Wheeljack and Hound the worst? I was thinking more Prowl and Ironhide. But that Wheeljack /Tracks mold does have its critics.
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Post by Toph on Jul 15, 2018 9:55:32 GMT
How were Wheeljack and Hound the worst? Universe Hound is one of the best TF toys ever made, for me. Right up there with Transmetal Tarantulas.
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Post by Shockprowl on Jul 15, 2018 10:07:53 GMT
Oh My Godfathers, a new Ratchet/Ironhide mold would be BRILLIANT! After the last shit we got.
Prowl is ok, but far from perfect.
I WANT A NEW CHUG PROWL!!!!!
*HYPERVENTILATES*
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