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Post by Philip Ayres on Jul 19, 2018 16:31:06 GMT
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Post by Toph on Jul 19, 2018 16:39:20 GMT
Ironhide is the first decent Ironhide since 2005, and the first one from this line to actually look like a cybertronian vehicle, instead of a cyberpunk futurecar. (Not counting Chromia since the mold predates the line)
Bring on Ratchet!!!!
Seeing his vehicle cements U. Hound as the better version, but I still want this Hound.
Edit:
She doesn't look it, but Chromia is an extensive retool. I think she may be a heavier retool of Moonracer, than the last Chromia was of TFP Arcee.
Her entire vehicle mode is reshelled, which includes her chest/torso piece.
The chest isn't obvious until you compare it directly to Moon or Nova. (I didn't pick up on it until I was trying to see the combiner connecter in wiki pictures of the previous mold)
Edit 2:
In robot mode, only her upper legs are the same. Everything else is new tooling.
Edit 3:
The weapon she's holding it Torizer
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jul 19, 2018 16:54:47 GMT
The combiner connector is all underneath her predecessors. We won't know for sure about her till the toy gets in hand or something else is said.
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Post by Bogatan on Jul 19, 2018 16:58:10 GMT
Gawd, the amount of detailing going on wih some of these (Chromia, magnus, Hound from some angles) is threatening to make me not buy them. Right now Im hoping the hand painting is making them look worse than they are.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jul 19, 2018 17:00:52 GMT
Better image of Toraizer   |
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Post by Bogatan on Jul 19, 2018 17:02:01 GMT
Ironhide has thrown me. Every other reveal so far seems to be
Robot mode - very G1 accurate either toy or animation model
Vehicle mode - varying degree of cybertrnian
Thats fine with me, it mixes things up just enough.
Then theres Ironhide/Ratchet quite possibly the only significant 84-86 Autobots that still dont have a decent modern update and they go full cybertronian with the robot mode. And even then it looks more like a repurposed Kup mould than originally designed for them.
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Post by Toph on Jul 19, 2018 17:04:48 GMT
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jul 19, 2018 17:08:10 GMT
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Post by Toph on Jul 19, 2018 17:08:44 GMT
Then theres Ironhide/Ratchet quite possibly the only significant 84-86 Autobots that still dont have a decent modern update and they go full cybertronian with the robot mode. And even then it looks more like a repurposed Kup mould than originally designed for them. Ironhide reads less Kup to me, and more Energon Inferno. |
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jul 19, 2018 17:09:37 GMT
Not looking good. They'll be a real "toys out the pram" moment here if this turns out to be the case! |
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jul 19, 2018 17:10:06 GMT
Then theres Ironhide/Ratchet quite possibly the only significant 84-86 Autobots that still dont have a decent modern update and they go full cybertronian with the robot mode. And even then it looks more like a repurposed Kup mould than originally designed for them. Ironhide reads less Kup to me, and more Energon Inferno. I can see TR Kup and Energon Inferno |
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Post by Toph on Jul 19, 2018 17:17:36 GMT
Not looking good. They'll be a real "toys out the pram" moment here if this turns out to be the case! Aye. It kinda seems pointless to me to gut that feature. Especially because it doesn't seem to have improved the functionality of it. |
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Post by Toph on Jul 19, 2018 17:21:46 GMT
Another detail is that Sideswipe has a rectangular hole in his shoulders, and while I can't see clearly, I think there's a matching peg on his personal "shaped like his shoulder mounted missile launcher" gun.
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Post by duffism1981 on Jul 19, 2018 17:26:07 GMT
it is strange top release Chromia based on an existing combiner mould, then do away with the combiner gimmick. especially when you have a female torso and, so far, only two known limbs for it. I see a lot of fans want another two female limbs to make Elita 1finite an all female combiner and Hasbro may have dropped the ball with that one.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jul 19, 2018 18:30:54 GMT
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jul 19, 2018 18:31:53 GMT
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jul 19, 2018 18:35:00 GMT
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Post by Toph on Jul 19, 2018 18:44:56 GMT
Ugh. I am so tired of "gritty" 80s reboots.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jul 19, 2018 18:46:17 GMT
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jul 19, 2018 18:47:53 GMT
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Post by Pinwig on Jul 19, 2018 18:52:52 GMT
I realise they've spread the line over more sizes, but is this showing us the downsizing they talked about? Two deluxes per wave plus the Battle Master? We've still only seen one Voyager for wave one too.
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Post by Toph on Jul 19, 2018 18:59:14 GMT
Not much of a Siege, without any Decepticons. At this point it's more like a militant group in the woods stockpiling weapons in case of a siege.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jul 19, 2018 19:00:22 GMT
More to come. We've seen 5 deluxes tonight, we suspect we know of at least two others (Prowl & Sixgun)
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Post by Pinwig on Jul 19, 2018 19:00:40 GMT
Ah, maybe that's why wave one appears to be two Deluxes and a Voyager.
The Decepticons are hiding.
Which is odd really, cos in this story it was the Autobots doing that.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jul 19, 2018 19:16:49 GMT
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Post by Pinwig on Jul 19, 2018 19:26:06 GMT
That's very reassuring. There is also the closeness of the code numbers on those amazon Voyager listings -
E3541 Transformers: Generations War for Cybertron: Siege Voyager Class WFC-S11 Optimus Prime
E3543 Megatron
E3544 Starscream Action Figure
A decent Megatron is just what we need to go with that Prime.
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Post by Toph on Jul 19, 2018 19:27:35 GMT
So a lot of them the wheels fold down for a flight mode, ans ITS ALL EIGHTIES ALL THE TIME!!!
If we don't get a deLorian time machine out of this, then what are they even doing with their lives?
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jul 19, 2018 19:28:35 GMT
First go at a checklist Battle Masters
Wave 1
E3550 WFC-S1 Fireblast E?? ?? Lionaiser   Micromasters
Wave 1E3558 Battle Patrol: Bigshot & Flask E3557 Race Car Patrol: Roadhandler & Swindler   Wave 2E3562 Rescue Patrol Redhot & Stakeout  Also KnownE3560 Airstrike Patrol E3561 Spy Action Patrol E4492 Sports Car Patrol E4494 Road Patrol Patrol DeluxeWave 1E3520 WFC-S10 Sideswipe E3536 Cog (Gasket & Grommit) E3537 Hound     Wave 2E3538 Ironhide E?? ?? Chromia  Also KnownE3540 Prowl Action Figure - seen on art E4378 Sixgun Action Figure E?? ?? Red Alert - seen on art E?? ?? Wheeljack - seen on art  VoyagerWave 1 E3541 WFC-S11 Optimus Prime  Also KnownE3543 Megatron E3544 Starscream Action Figure Leader Wave 1 E3479 Ultra Magnus  Also Known - but some of these may be Studio Series Leaders E3576 Shockwave Action Figure E3748 Jetfire E3750 Megatron E4522 Optimus Action Figure |
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Post by Pinwig on Jul 19, 2018 19:44:19 GMT
I was just trying to fit all that together in my head in order. Thanks Phil!
Are the Battlemasters really just robot/weapon? That feels too simple. The Titanmaster/Primemaster toys had more to them than that because of the vehicle/pretender shell.
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Post by Shockprowl on Jul 19, 2018 19:45:56 GMT
More to come. We've seen 5 deluxes tonight, we suspect we know of at least two others (Prowl & Sixgun)
PROWL!!!!!!!
AAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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