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Post by Kingoji on Jul 20, 2018 17:11:31 GMT
I can see Swindler being reused as Black Jack. At a stretch Stake Out without a lightbar could be Hyperdrive.
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Post by Pinwig on Jul 20, 2018 17:16:01 GMT
If they go cartoon, I can see Wheeljack being a remould of Ironhide. Ironhide's alt mode is a lot like Wheeljack's in MTMTE part one.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jul 20, 2018 17:22:17 GMT
You miss Springer on purpose? Not seen any mention of Springer
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jul 20, 2018 17:23:01 GMT
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Post by drmick on Jul 20, 2018 17:55:13 GMT
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Post by Kingoji on Jul 20, 2018 18:09:43 GMT
I have hopes that Ironhide's chest window can be swung up to become a screen in front of his face.
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Post by Shockprowl on Jul 20, 2018 20:44:45 GMT
Who is 'Cog'? Was he a part of Metroplex or Fortress Maximus?
He looks good 'n'all but-
WHERE ARE MY PICTURES OF SEIGE PROWL?!?!?!?!!!!!!!
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Post by Shockprowl on Jul 20, 2018 20:46:10 GMT
That Ultra Magnus looks great. But I already have a really good Ultra Magnus, ol' red-thighs.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jul 20, 2018 20:53:01 GMT
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jul 20, 2018 20:56:44 GMT
None at all, I'd just missed it reading down the list! Every time I read it too.... He's Thundercracker's number plus one: Thundercracker is a likely Starscream repaint so both are a likely WFC toy
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Post by legios on Jul 20, 2018 21:22:23 GMT
So, with Battlemasters and Micromasters being at the cheaper end of things...
This is a decent line budgetarily. I only need to really concern myself with two deluxes, and some of the smaller stuff because pretty much the rest of the line is entirely retreads. Nice.
Probably have to resort to ebay for stuff given the likely lack of distribution and the seeming unwillingness of webstores to sell you just the figures you want (without you having to pay for a load of cruft ya don't), but c'est-la-vie. (Say you will, say you'll do what I don't :-) )
Karl
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Post by Shockprowl on Jul 20, 2018 22:23:42 GMT
Huh. Interesting they're doing characters like Cog and Sixgun. And waiting until October or worst still NEXT YEAR is unexceptable, Big Phil. I demand you do better.
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Post by The Doctor on Jul 20, 2018 22:52:00 GMT
The line doesn't start until next year!!!
-Ralph
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Post by drmick on Jul 20, 2018 23:10:56 GMT
None at all, I'd just missed it reading down the list! Every time I read it too.... He's Thundercracker's number plus one: Thundercracker is a likely Starscream repaint so both are a likely WFC toy Phew- I thought I missed a certain confirmed vs rumour rule. But more importantly- how does a new Springer toy evade your attention? He's like the second most popular (male) Autobot?!?! Does that mold get a re-tool? Has there been any Voyagers who have not got a re-deco?
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Post by Toph on Jul 20, 2018 23:18:51 GMT
In Generations, Rhinox, and TR Galvatron, PotP Grimlock and Hun-Grrr have not gotten redecoed at all. It seems so far there are no current plans for them, either. Skybyte and Whirl have never gotten a western repaint, only getting a limited japanese Cloud repaint. Semi-related, the Sandstorm retool of Springer has never been used again.
I feel like I'm missing a TR voyager.
Edit to add: • Brainstorm • CW Skylynx only one one very limited repaint
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jul 20, 2018 23:24:13 GMT
Phew- I thought I missed a certain confirmed vs rumour rule. But more importantly- how does a new Springer toy evade your attention? He's like the second most popular (male) Autobot?!?! I suspect I caught it first time and thought "I'm not sure if that's WFC or not" and then ignored it. Thundercracker is, I think, on the Cyberverse list so I think I thought they might both be Cyberverse. tmukhub.proboards.com/post/326070/threadWe all make mistakes!
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jul 20, 2018 23:40:25 GMT
TR Voyagers, by mould
Galvatron Sentinel Prime & Astrotrain Alpha Trion & Broadside/Tidal Wave Optimus Prime, Octone & Nemesis Prime Megatron & Blitzwing
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Post by Shockprowl on Jul 21, 2018 7:29:01 GMT
The line doesn't start until next year!!! -Ralph YOU DEFEND THE PHIL?!?! Ironhide looks betterer and betterer. Oh suckmyballs I hope they do a Rathcet. They MUST do a Ratchet, SURELY?!?! Loving the look of Siege.
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Jul 21, 2018 9:19:06 GMT
Cog and the Micros for me so far. And possibly the Ultra Magnus.
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Post by browny87 on Jul 22, 2018 13:05:41 GMT
Another expensive line for me. Looks very good that magnus for me looks ace
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jul 22, 2018 20:52:09 GMT
Obviously in for the Battlemasters and Micromasters: both offer something new I haven't got.
Larger sizes.... less sure. Cog, oh yes. But rehashed Autobot cars with no gimmicks.... hmm. Sideswipe an Red Alert, because I don't have them, and probably Prowl. Ironhide.... isn't quite hitting the spot somehow. Robot mode is good but the vehicle.... the black on the back is annoying me.
Chromia is just making me angry at the moment. I'm hoping it's a hand made retool that's missing the relevant combiner parts.
Op is doubful. Not bringing a lot new to the party. It's closer to the 1984 Op than any other Voyager Op, yes, but it's all thrown away with the roof.
Magnus is a big yes though
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Post by Toph on Jul 22, 2018 21:15:58 GMT
I'm increasingly less sure about having a "classic" character transform into another version's vehicle.
The more time goes by, the more I either wish Ultra Magnus' vehicle was more faithful to the robot's version of the character, or else the robot was an update of God Magnus, since we just basically got G1 Ultra Magnus.
Then on the flipside, that toy is a version I don't care about since it omits the Optimus redeco.
Now I'm jonesing for a God Magnus and Fire Convoy update. And the car brothers.
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Post by Pinwig on Jul 22, 2018 21:38:36 GMT
Woah... Phil considering not buying new toys? Doesn't that mean the universe will end?
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jul 22, 2018 21:54:13 GMT
The last Generations toys I didn't get were the CW Leader Jets
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Post by Pinwig on Jul 22, 2018 22:01:17 GMT
Yeah but they don't count. No one bought those. Not until they were tuppence in B&M anyway.
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Post by Pinwig on Jul 22, 2018 22:10:01 GMT
Underwhelming seems to be the general opinion on these. The podcasts this week have all been a bit muted. Three things have irked everyone, all of which we've already discussed here: the alt modes aren't Cybertronian, the hyperdetailing is too OTT and the battle damage detracts from the figures rather than adding to them.
I'm going to wait for the actual toys. I love the Takara targetmasters so I'm in for the Battlemasters and the Micromasters look fun. I'm sold on the other sizes simply because the robot modes look right. I really wish they'd reconsider the battle damage though.
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Post by Shockprowl on Jul 23, 2018 7:02:42 GMT
Huh. I hadn't noticed the battledamage. I don't like the idea of battledamage.
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Post by Shockprowl on Jul 23, 2018 7:03:48 GMT
And yeah, they're about as Cybertroiany as my ass. But I don't mind that.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jul 23, 2018 9:33:09 GMT
I'd forgotten we knew they were doing Impactor & Mirage as (presumably) deluxe toys. I could see Impactor from Ironhide.... That brings the number of unknown deluxes down to 3, unless there's some misdirects with the art or there's some unknown deluxe vs packs out there, which is a possibility given the poll, that soak up some of the characters we know. The poll was: Needlenose vs Tracks
Spinister vs Wheeljack
Impactor vs Mirage hmmm. That might make Needlenose, Tracks and Spinister our last three deluxe?
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Jul 23, 2018 9:34:58 GMT
That would seem to make having a poll rather redundant...
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