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Post by Philip Ayres on Aug 21, 2018 20:16:28 GMT
Yup, comparison with the other entries does reveal that's the assortment codes for the size classes.
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Post by drmick on Aug 21, 2018 20:32:29 GMT
Ah, 3419 is the case then, 3576 the figure.
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Post by Pinwig on Aug 21, 2018 20:49:15 GMT
Pretty much what we were expecting, but I'm glad of the confirmation that the deluxe S isn't Starscream.
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Post by Pinwig on Aug 21, 2018 20:56:04 GMT
Right, so is Skytread going to be the Legends Battletrap duo remoulded and sold together? Dropping that class means those two moulds won't be reused unless they did something like that.
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Post by Toph on Aug 21, 2018 21:03:29 GMT
Two legends costs more than a generations deluxe.
It's more likely skytread will be a retooling of, or just simply the decepticon version of Cog.
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Post by Llama God on Aug 22, 2018 6:41:51 GMT
I don't want that to be right, but it probably will be. Also completely concur with all the concerns re:Generations. But oh well. I'm sure it'll course-correct in a few years' time...
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Post by Philip Ayres on Aug 22, 2018 6:55:20 GMT
Two legends costs more than a generations deluxe. Sadly true, It'd be annoying that it wasn't using the same idea as Battletrap though! It's more likely skytread will be a retooling of, or just simply the decepticon version of Cog. I think we can rule this one out: Cog is in the same wave and Hasbro don't usually debut a mould and it's repaint/retool in the same wave (CW Fireflight/Airaid, POTP Swoop/Cutthroat, Slag/Sludge, Snarl/Sinnertwin, Rippersnapper/Blot and Moonracer/Novastar for some recent examples) However.... I could see Skytread using a similar concept, with the Jet & Tank breaking apart to form weapons, like Cog's Gasket & Grommit do, then coming together to form the combined robot. I'd never really seen Cog as Battletrap & Flywheel's Oppo before but now I say it, it's obvious he's the Duobot to their Duocons. |
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Post by Pinwig on Aug 22, 2018 8:13:30 GMT
I think it makes sense. We know Cog is a robot that breaks into pieces to armour up other figures as well as having his own alt mode. We can also guess that this figure is going to get remoulded/painted into Six Gun in a future wave. So there's no reason why the Decepticons wouldn't have an equivalent. If Skytread is one he will be his own mould because as Phil says, Hasbro have yet to break this unwritten rule that they don't use the same mould/remould twice in a wave (CW Dragstrip being an Aerialbot is the clearest example of them refusing to do that).
So we can posit that there is a Decepticon Weaponizer mould in the offing. The Autobot one is going to fill in the figures missing from Metroplex and Fort Max, but we don't yet have a Scorponok Titan, so there's no point in doing Fasttrack because that's just rubbing salt into the wound. So I can see whoever is masterminding this wanting to do Brunt to go with Trypticon in Six Gun's wave, and he's a nondescript tank. What other figure that breaks apart into pieces that has a tank involved could go before that to come out in the same wave as Cog? Oh well, we've just done Battletrap, so why not do something that approaches Flywheels as a KIND of partner but isn't quite? Yep, okay, call him Skytread because that's the name we used when we KIND of did Flywheels as a Titanmaster, then if we need to we can claim it isn't Flywheels at all. So that would give you Cog & Skytread in wave one, then Six Gun and Brunt from the same moulds in wave two or three.
In that way I can see Phil's logic.
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Post by The Doctor on Aug 22, 2018 8:16:04 GMT
I hope they do Fast Track. After all, we *did*+ get a TR Scorponok.
-Ralph
+With Grotusque. I need one at some point!
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Post by Toph on Aug 22, 2018 8:40:48 GMT
Two legends costs more than a generations deluxe. Sadly true, It'd be annoying that it wasn't using the same idea as Battletrap though! It's more likely skytread will be a retooling of, or just simply the decepticon version of Cog. I think we can rule this one out: Cog is in the same wave and Hasbro don't usually debut a mould and it's repaint/retool in the same wave (CW Fireflight/Airaid, POTP Swoop/Cutthroat, Slag/Sludge, Snarl/Sinnertwin, Rippersnapper/Blot and Moonracer/Novastar for some recent examples) However.... I could see Skytread using a similar concept, with the Jet & Tank breaking apart to form weapons, like Cog's Gasket & Grommit do, then coming together to form the combined robot. I'd never really seen Cog as Battletrap & Flywheel's Oppo before but now I say it, it's obvious he's the Duobot to their Duocons. That's what I'd meant by "decepticon version." Using the exact same gimmick, but a new mold. Sorry I wasn't more clear. |
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Post by Philip Ayres on Aug 22, 2018 17:09:51 GMT
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Post by browny87 on Aug 22, 2018 17:10:57 GMT
any rough dates for wave 1 phil?
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Post by Philip Ayres on Aug 22, 2018 17:20:01 GMT
December has been my thought all along, and that's the date on those Midtown Comics listings
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Post by Philip Ayres on Aug 22, 2018 18:12:01 GMT
Interetesting looking at the older rumours. Aside from the Blind box thing, which looks like confusion, that first rumour is looking bang on the money. Updated WFC Checklist GENERATIONS 2019
War For Cybertron - Siege Battle Masters - E3431 Wave 1E3550 WFC-S1 Fireblast E?? ?? Lionaiser E?? ?? Blowpipe Micromasters - E3420 Wave 1E3558 Battle Patrol: Bigshot & Flask E3557 Race Car Patrol: Roadhandler & Swindler E3560 Airstrike Patrol: ?? ?? & ?? ?? Wave 2E3562 Rescue Patrol Redhot & Stakeout Also KnownE3561 Spy Action Patrol E4492 Sports Car Patrol E4494 Road Patrol Patrol Deluxe - E3432 Wave 1E3520 WFC-S10 Sideswipe E3536 Cog (Gasket & Grommit) E3537 Hound E?? ?? Skytread Wave 2E3538 Ironhide E?? ?? Chromia Also KnownE3540 Prowl Action Figure - seen on art E4378 Sixgun Action Figure E?? ?? Red Alert - seen on art E?? ?? Wheeljack - seen on art E?? ?? Impactor - fan vote E?? ?? Mirage - fan vote Voyager - E3418 Wave 1E3541 WFC-S11 Optimus Prime E3543 Megatron Also KnownE3544 Starscream E4490 Thundercraker E4491 Springer SuspectedE?? ?? Skywarp Leader Wave 1E3479 Ultra Magnus E3576 Shockwave Also Known - but some of these may be Studio Series Leaders E3748 Jetfire E3750 Megatron E4522 Optimus Action Figure |
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Post by Pinwig on Aug 22, 2018 18:14:50 GMT
If the Midtown listing is the street date (Dec 31st) then going by the last couple of years Kapow will probably be shipping them out first week of December. That would match the timing of the reveals we've had so far compared to previous years too.
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Post by browny87 on Aug 22, 2018 18:41:16 GMT
yeah just in time for xmas  |
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Post by drmick on Aug 22, 2018 19:06:16 GMT
Interetesting looking at the older rumours. Aside from the Blind box thing, which looks like confusion, that first rumour is looking bang on the money. Updated WFC Checklist GENERATIONS 2019
War For Cybertron - Siege Leader Wave 1E3479 Ultra Magnus E3576 Shockwave Also Known - but some of these may be Studio Series Leaders E3748 Jetfire E3750 Megatron E4522 Optimus Action Figure I'm putting my house on Jetfire and Megatron being movie figures. I wonder if Kapow will do a big All In preorder for wave 1 like they did for POTP? |
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Post by browny87 on Aug 22, 2018 19:11:06 GMT
I cant afford that outlay lol!
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Post by Philip Ayres on Aug 22, 2018 19:27:05 GMT
I wonder if Kapow will do a big All In preorder for wave 1 like they did for POTP? I believe they had their fingers burnt on that when the Leaders were delayed and are unlikely to do it again. |
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Post by Pinwig on Aug 22, 2018 19:38:43 GMT
I'm putting my house on Jetfire and Megatron being movie figures. Certainly if there are only three leaders in this line, it makes no sense to have Megatron as a Voyager and a Leader, but conversely the Magnus is an obvious candidate to be remoulded into Prime. I'd rather have a new Jetfire, but I agree, that's a clear movie favourite character likely to feature in the Studio Series line at some point. |
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Post by Philip Ayres on Aug 23, 2018 14:34:45 GMT
Some interesting photos from one of the latest Japanese toy mags showing how big the Micromasters and Battlemasters are, about the same size as a Primemaster Decoy Suit, and the first picture of Gasket & Grommit separated:   |
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Post by Toph on Aug 23, 2018 14:52:17 GMT
That optimus mold looks significantly better there without the halfassed weathered detailing
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Post by Philip Ayres on Aug 23, 2018 15:40:39 GMT
Some interesting photos from one of the latest Japanese toy mags showing how big the Micromasters and Battlemasters are   |
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Post by Philip Ayres on Aug 23, 2018 15:57:16 GMT
I can't believe the original Micromasters were that big!!!!!!
I hadn't got mine out for a while and I'd not had them next to the Prime Masters or Decoy Suits!
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Post by drmick on Aug 23, 2018 16:17:09 GMT
So they are the same size as the old ones!
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Post by The Doctor on Aug 23, 2018 18:37:13 GMT
I can't believe the original Micromasters were that big!! !! !! I hadn't got mine out for a while and I'd not had them next to the Prime Masters or Decoy Suits! It has blown my mind too. -Ralph |
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Post by Toph on Aug 23, 2018 19:27:33 GMT
Minicons (the real ones) were the same size, too
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Post by browny87 on Aug 23, 2018 22:39:03 GMT
they are a lot bigger than I remember, but I guess as a kid I was a lot smaller lol
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Post by Llama God on Aug 24, 2018 6:37:09 GMT
I think we've just gotten used to the Titan/Prime Masters, which are ridiculously small.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Sept 1, 2018 5:32:48 GMT
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