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Post by Benn on Dec 15, 2018 16:33:54 GMT
Napoleon beat the Russians at Jenga? They leave that out of most history books.
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Post by Pinwig on Dec 15, 2018 16:35:54 GMT
He was a demon at Kerplunk too.
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Post by Shockprowl on Dec 15, 2018 17:00:02 GMT
.....it's a good job you're both pretty....
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Post by Pinwig on Dec 15, 2018 18:56:32 GMT
And have excellent musical taste.
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Post by Shockprowl on Dec 15, 2018 19:21:31 GMT
Errrrr.....
Well, let's just say -so far- it's better than The Doctor's....
Which actually isn't saying much....
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Post by Pinwig on Dec 15, 2018 19:37:33 GMT
How very dare you!
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Post by Toph on Dec 15, 2018 21:58:20 GMT
Got voyagers and micros today.
Micros are basically you get what you see. If you were excited for them, then you'll probably love them. If you weren't, then they are a thing that exists.
But Stormcloud is unusually complex for a toy this sixe, these days. Like, he reminds me of some of the armada minicons.
Voyagers- here are the main things:
• the oversculpting is not nearly as distracting in person. Either they pulled it back from the prototypes to the production run, or else it just doesn't come through as much as it does in photos.
• the weathering deco is both worse and better in hand. It doesn't stand out as much as I thought (maybe because it's color is almost flush with the grey plastic), but it definitely hurts the toy. There is a lot of details and paint apps that got sacrificed tor this, though megatron suffers worse due to his plastic color. It's much more distracting on Optimus, because it really stands out against his red, but as his thights are the same color as Megatron, it was pointless to apply it to his thights instead of his shins.
• I LOVE OPTIMUS. If it was not for the weathering, he would be PERFECT. He's exactly what I wanted out of a Voyager Optimus. Robot mode is the update. The cyberpunk gribble added to his vehicle isn't nearly as distracting to me in hand as it was in photos. Megatron's legs get all the praise, but I find his transformation to be interesting, intuitive, and fun.
The only thing I wish for, was that he had a trailer that broke down into weaponizer parts instead of a supersuit.
• Megatron... well, you get what you expect. There are some things I like better than TR Megatron. He's even more spot on in appearance, but TR is really well done too, does more, and is a more fun toy. But he has a better fusion cannon. His leg transformation doesn't appeal to me as much as it seems everyone else, his head IS GOD AWFUL!!! I mean it is the dumbest design- exactly like MP Tracks: it's held up over an empty space by nothing but a panel on a hinge.
His plastic shade is awful. It makes it look cheaper than it is, and it eats the detail which needed some tampos, except the deco budget was consumed entirely by the weathering tampos. He's desperate for a reprolabel set.
His swordgun is also not great, as Phil once said.
• The sooner Hasbro drops the weapon effects, the better. They don't look great on the battlemasters, but look awful in person, attached to the bigger bots. They don't look like they're being hit in the shoulder by lasers, they look like they're shooting lasers from random places on their bodies.
This is just waisted money on losable nonsense.
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Post by Toph on Dec 15, 2018 23:30:00 GMT
We now need a Weaponizer God Bomber. At least Voyager scale, and with two alt mode configurations- Spaceship so it can be sold independently, and G1ish styled Optimus Prime trailer.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Dec 16, 2018 7:59:49 GMT
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Post by Philip Ayres on Dec 17, 2018 11:22:00 GMT
I've been resisting, helped by not actually being here, but last night TR Hot Rod & Triggerhappy took possession of Battlemasters Firebolt & Blowpipe. And they'll there probably stay which highlights one of the problems I have with the Battlemasters: not that the weapons can't be swapped between the characters but these weapons naturally gravitate to a specific toy: they originally came with a particular toy and the toy is out without those weapons.
Lionizer is more mobile as his original partner isn't out yet, and you can make a good argument that this isn't the original Lionizer too.
Pteraxodon and Smashdown will likewise be able to be moved around, especially as they look original characters but Aimless and Caliburst also have pre existing characters as parters who are out without their signature weapons.
They could have almost done with doing some new character Battlemaster guns: if further Battlemaster guns turn up this year, I'll lay good money on them being Haywire, Recoil and, perhaps, Fracas for the TR toys who didn't have a Targetmaster
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Post by Philip Ayres on Dec 17, 2018 11:44:05 GMT
His swordgun is also not great, as Phil once said. • The sooner Hasbro drops the weapon effects, the better. They don't look great on the battlemasters, but look awful in person, attached to the bigger bots. They don't look like they're being hit in the shoulder by lasers, they look like they're shooting lasers from random places on their bodies. This is just waisted money on losable nonsense. I quite like them as shooty effects on the guns. On the body is variable.... At least one of Sideswipe's pegs is too small. Oddly the one I've got the best use elsewhere is Leoniser's which can tab into the side of Megatron's sword gun using the rectangular tabs. |
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Post by The Doctor on Dec 17, 2018 12:34:03 GMT
I've been resisting, helped by not actually being here, but last night TR Hot Rod & Triggerhappy took possession of Battlemasters Firebolt & Blowpipe. And they'll there probably stay which highlights one of the problems I have with the Battlemasters: not that the weapons can't be swapped between the characters but these weapons naturally gravitate to a specific toy: they originally came with a particular toy and the toy is out without those weapons. At last you understand!!! At last!!! Weapon swapping is wrong!!! -Ralph |
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Post by Philip Ayres on Dec 17, 2018 12:51:06 GMT
I suspected Burns would struggle with the subtlety of what I was saying
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Post by The Doctor on Dec 17, 2018 18:59:56 GMT
Vindicated!!! Vindicated at last!!! AHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
-Ralph
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Post by Philip Ayres on Dec 17, 2018 19:43:14 GMT
The fireblasts with the Siege Battlemasters fit the cannons sticking out the lower half of TR Overlord's chest.
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Dec 17, 2018 20:00:18 GMT
Almost... almost.. like it was designed to do so...
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Post by The Doctor on Dec 17, 2018 20:06:44 GMT
The fireblasts with the Siege Battlemasters fit the cannons sticking out the lower half of TR Overlord's chest. Did TR Overlord come out in the UK? I never saw one. -Ralph |
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Post by Philip Ayres on Dec 17, 2018 20:52:41 GMT
No, and not seen at grey import at the discounters either
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Post by The Doctor on Dec 17, 2018 21:41:38 GMT
I still hold out hope. With the TR Chaos box set appearances we are still in silly season.
-Ralph
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Post by legios on Dec 18, 2018 22:52:29 GMT
I've been resisting, helped by not actually being here, but last night TR Hot Rod & Triggerhappy took possession of Battlemasters Firebolt & Blowpipe. And they'll there probably stay which highlights one of the problems I have with the Battlemasters: not that the weapons can't be swapped between the characters but these weapons naturally gravitate to a specific toy: they originally came with a particular toy and the toy is out without those weapons. Hmmm. Not a deployment that I am planning. TR Triggerhappy already has a Classics Nightstick that I had around anyway, so he is sorted for a gun. My thinking is currently either to give Elita-1 Firebolt, as she only has those ridiculously tiny pistols which really don't suit her, or let Classic Jetfire have it on the grounds that Jetfire is the "early adopter" and the geek for the new tech so a Battlemaster upgrade suits there. Quake was going to get a Battlemaster, but the longer I fiddle around with him the more it feels unnecessary - he has the big artilley gun, and a solid rifle for close-up work... He doesn't feel at all bereft really. Or Elita-1 could get Lionizer so as to play on the slightly Leozack-esquenesss of her appearance... "Lionizer Attack!" :-) Karl |
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Post by Philip Ayres on Dec 19, 2018 14:40:49 GMT
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Post by Shockprowl on Dec 19, 2018 17:54:24 GMT
APRIL?!?!
OH, BUGGERATION!!!
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Post by Toph on Dec 19, 2018 19:28:28 GMT
Siege wave one was marked for the end of december.
They always do this, so add a couple months. If wave one says january, assume late november to early december. If wave two is a couple months later to the date they said (they said jan, so wave two is april), expect late april to early march.
And don't forget it's almost january.
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Post by Pinwig on Dec 19, 2018 20:43:25 GMT
And don't forget it's almost january. It better bloody not be! I've got a holiday to have before then and it hasn't even started yet! |
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Post by Philip Ayres on Dec 19, 2018 21:40:38 GMT
Siege wave one was marked for the end of december. They always do this, so add a couple months. If wave one says january, assume late november to early december. If wave two is a couple months later to the date they said (they said jan, so wave two is april), expect late april to early march. And don't forget it's almost january. That's Hasbro's dates at shows. These are dates when a retailer expects to sell them, which are usually more accurate. Having said that, it does seem a little later than normal, I'd expected Feb ish. When did POTP w2 hit? |
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Post by Philip Ayres on Dec 19, 2018 21:48:09 GMT
<answers own question>
Feb for Primemaster and Legends, though IIRC the Legends had been out in HK since the turn of the year.
March for Deluxe & Voyagers
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Post by Toph on Dec 21, 2018 4:01:14 GMT
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Post by Philip Ayres on Dec 21, 2018 6:50:17 GMT
Hurrah, 3 more missing WFC numbers filled: |
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Post by Philip Ayres on Dec 21, 2018 7:34:52 GMT
Siege wave one was marked for the end of december. They always do this, so add a couple months. If wave one says january, assume late november to early december. If wave two is a couple months later to the date they said (they said jan, so wave two is april), expect late april to early march. And don't forget it's almost january. EE say Feb www.entertainmentearth.com/s/?query1=siege+transformers&id=16-502018719 |
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Post by Shockprowl on Dec 21, 2018 7:37:47 GMT
UUUUHHHHH! UUUHHHH! Hey, his lower legs don't look as hollow there. ....just look at those broad shoulders.... I CANNOT WAIT! |
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