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Post by Andy Turnbull on Nov 29, 2018 13:31:44 GMT
It's The Rebirth chum.
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Post by reilly2040 on Nov 29, 2018 15:32:05 GMT
If I'm reading the subsequent stories right, isn't there speculation that price was for dealers buying boxes of two, rather than the price for Optimus himself?
Regardless, it'd be outwith my price range anyway. It looks a nice toy, but like several of the other more recent expensive MP figures (Dinobot I'm looking at you), I'm content to watch other people's Youtube videos and stick to the cheaper stuff.
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Post by Dezzeh on Nov 29, 2018 15:44:18 GMT
If I'm reading the subsequent stories right, isn't there speculation that price was for dealers buying boxes of two, rather than the price for Optimus himself? Regardless, it'd be outwith my price range anyway. It looks a nice toy, but like several of the other more recent expensive MP figures (Dinobot I'm looking at you), I'm content to watch other people's Youtube videos and stick to the cheaper stuff. People always think this is the case with this store, usually, it is not the case. |
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Post by Stomski on Nov 29, 2018 16:44:03 GMT
People always think this is the case with this store, usually, it is not the case. I see what you did there. |
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Post by Dezzeh on Nov 29, 2018 16:55:01 GMT
Unintentional puns are the best puns.
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Post by Shockprowl on Nov 29, 2018 19:26:02 GMT
Sorry but there's no way this is going to look betterer than MP10. No way no how. |
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Post by Shockprowl on Nov 29, 2018 19:26:59 GMT
Heh, they should do the first release with Siege-like Shit-splash-weathering! Just for laughs! Oh... oh imagine...
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Post by Philip Ayres on Nov 29, 2018 23:26:48 GMT
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Nov 29, 2018 23:39:31 GMT
I have to admit I am liking the look of it. I can hear snippets from More Than Meets The Eye looking at it.
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Post by blueshift on Nov 29, 2018 23:42:28 GMT
I mean, it does look great, but in no way shape or form do those pics seem to justify that insane price tag.
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Post by Pinwig on Nov 29, 2018 23:48:42 GMT
£350 and Spike still has no eyes.
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Post by blueshift on Nov 29, 2018 23:53:13 GMT
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Nov 30, 2018 0:14:09 GMT
I mean, it does look great, but in no way shape or form do those pics seem to justify that insane price tag. You can recreate Optimus Prime putting on his fake and proper head from the Marvel comic. |
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Post by blueshift on Nov 30, 2018 0:25:18 GMT
It doesn't look massively different from the last release!!
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Post by Stomski on Nov 30, 2018 7:28:13 GMT
Fake windows on robot still disappointing. Either that or there's an impressive amount of engineering to hide the windscreen wipers.
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Post by Llama God on Nov 30, 2018 7:37:22 GMT
Well, I have to say, as someone who finds themselves compelled to buy every Optimus Prime... that's awful.
I mean, it doesn't look like a terrible toy in and of itself. And it certainly does look like a very faithful recreation of how Optimus Prime looks in the cartoon. The problem, you see, the problem is is that those cartoons were animated by a sweat shop in Korea, and should in no shape or form be the basis for a religiously-adhered-to aesthetic.
Even as a kid I understood that what we saw on the page or on the screen was an approximation of the actual toys - and that was okay. And sure, G1 Prime had wheels everywhere, no articulation, an utterly different head (unless Mike Collins is drawing)... but that was okay. And it remains okay because we've got MP-01 and MP-10, who both do perfectly good jobs of turning from a truck into an approximation of the animation model, with most of the kibble hidden. And no, neither of them are as animation accurate as this one, but they're also more interesting to look at. This one is just flat.
The biggest problem for me, however, is that although it's animation accurate... it's not accurate to all his animation appearances. Putting aside even the Rebirth for now, there's a distinct difference to how his face looks in Arrival From Cybertron to how it does in the movie, which this one is clearly based on. How many more MP Primes do we need before we can have a completely animationa accurate one?
Okay, so I had a lot of reservations about MP-10, too, since I was one of the few people who liked MP-01. And when I finally held MP-10 in hand, I could see what was good about it. I may indeed yet have a similar experience with MP-44. Although right now I'm more interested and waiting to see what the MP-44+ with toy accurate colours will be like. (You know they'll do it. Right after Nemesis Prime, Sleep Mode, and any other variant.)
Although still, for that price... it'd have to be a pretty damned special repaint.
Unless he also came with a spare head with a white crest. That'd do it.
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Post by The Doctor on Nov 30, 2018 8:04:53 GMT
£350 and Spike still has no eyes. Fucking unbelievable!!! -Ralph |
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Post by The Doctor on Nov 30, 2018 8:07:41 GMT
I mean, it does look great, but in no way shape or form do those pics seem to justify that insane price tag. Yes, I fail to see how it fits that pricepoint. It doesn't even have electronics. -Ralph |
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Post by Shockprowl on Nov 30, 2018 9:44:46 GMT
Nothing justifies that price-point for a toy that size. But I think it's looks good though. Very good. Sunbow-tastic. They've pulled out all the stops, Sunbow-wise anyway. But in my mind MP10 remains superior, because he's 'THE PERFECT BLEND'.
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Post by Stomski on Nov 30, 2018 9:57:29 GMT
I just realised that the stand for making him fly is actually the rolling repair drone station base and arm from his trailer.
Whatever engineering they've done to the legs though is mightily impressive, although I haven't seen a clean shot of them in alt-mode and the small bits I have seen look a bit of a mess, which undermines the engineering a little.
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Post by Jim on Nov 30, 2018 11:11:58 GMT
I much prefer the look and proportions of MP-10 anyway, but more importantly MP-10 has a pretty neat, intuitive transformation (clever but also fast to do) and looking at these pictures I wonder if they've sacrificed that for some kind of cartoon purity.
There are also many characters suitable for an MP, from any era, that it would have been more interesting to see. This feels like such a waste of time.
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Post by Llama God on Dec 1, 2018 11:24:56 GMT
Nothing justifies that price-point for a toy that size. But I think it's looks good though. Very good. Sunbow-tastic. They've pulled out all the stops, Sunbow-wise anyway. But in my mind MP10 remains superior, because he's 'THE PERFECT BLEND'. This! Exactly this. |
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Post by Pinwig on Dec 1, 2018 11:53:05 GMT
It's tough. I've really embraced the Sunbow with my MPs now, partly because writing about the cartoon has made me much more fond of it, and partly because the more uniform look makes them look more like an intentional collection. I'd be happy with both Primes because as said before, there's something about MP10's legs that just isn't right to me. His calves are too chunky. However, MP10 doesn't have the massive backpack MP44 has, which I think will look as obvious as Pottop Leader Prime's. Also, I realise the economies are different and the recent 3P Primes we've seen don't have the trailers and accessories, but how can Magic Square do this for £85 in comparision to £350 plus? What is Takara's game? There is very little between them visually.  |
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Dec 1, 2018 21:49:04 GMT
God help me, the more I look at pictures of MP-44 the more I feel compelled to buy it...
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Post by blueshift on Dec 1, 2018 21:50:49 GMT
God help me, the more I look at pictures of MP-44 the more I feel compelled to buy it... No mohawk Stay strong for the inevitable repaint |
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Dec 1, 2018 21:52:22 GMT
Hah!
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Post by Shockprowl on Dec 2, 2018 8:11:20 GMT
It does look really nice, fun features, I just can't believe they want much for it. This is actually quite a turning point for our hobby if it's really the case.
And as Galvajim says above, there are other more-or-less A-listers who still require the MP treatment.
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Post by The Doctor on Dec 2, 2018 9:11:23 GMT
It's supply and demand. If the market shows that consumers will spend 50,000 yen on a TF toy then more will be made. Just say no.
-Ralph
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Post by Shockprowl on Dec 2, 2018 11:56:38 GMT
I'M WITH YOU, DOC'!
(didn't really want one anyway...)
JUST SAY NO!
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Post by Bogatan on Dec 2, 2018 12:16:23 GMT
copy and paste my opinion written elsewher Nicer than I expected, still not really sold on it. I think the problem is that Im not really a fan of that animation model. Im almost certain the animation model used in the movie was tweaked, or maybe it was just better drawn, either way Ive always liked movie Prime a lot more than tv Prime. I don't think this will be a big enough disaster to get the sort of reduction I'd need to buy it. Maybe if its a success there'll be enough runs that it eventually comes in at a decent price. Or Hasbro will pull a Rodimus, ditch the trailer and the stuff and just release the the robot. The more I look at it the more frustrating I find it. The thing I mostly didn't like about MP-10 was the legs, they looked far too generic, certainly not looking particularly toy or cartoon inspired and suffered from an oddly wide stance. MP-44 improved on the legs. Though, Ive always thought Movie Primes legs were reproportioned, lowering the knee to make it sit more centrally on the leg and would have preferred to see that here, but overall, they got the legs right. But with MP-44 it's the torso thats not working for me, it is (sadly) cartoon accurate, but most of the time that simply meant a collection of boxes badly stacked on top of each other. Fine for a 35 year old cartoon, less an insanely expansive toy in 2019. If it was the better stacked and detailed boxes of TFTM Prime, I'd probably be a lot more annoyed at not being able to afford it. So mixed feelings. It's also making me want to see MP-10 in cartoon colours. Which someone was kind enough to provide   |
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