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Post by grahamthomson on Nov 18, 2010 10:45:11 GMT
Will you be getting Spastic?
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Post by Bogatan on Nov 18, 2010 11:09:01 GMT
My vote would be. "Yes if I can find it for a reasonable price (under £20) as I think the mould is the best of the PCC line, but I'll be calling it Darwinian Evolution or maybe just Dragstrip"
But its not an option and is a bit too long to be one.
Andy
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Post by Nigel on Nov 18, 2010 11:27:18 GMT
If I saw it at a very low price in Home Bargains, I'd probably get it because I'm more than a little completist. (I see myself as a frugal and patient completist.  ) But I'd have to hide the name. Seeing as my disappointment with the first wave of 5-packs was verging on disgust, combined with actual disgust at the name, I wouldn't seek it out. |
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Post by legios on Nov 18, 2010 12:56:27 GMT
Not a chance. I find the name offensive and will therefore vote with my wallet. (On the off chance that it ever sees sale over here and it becomes a relevant question).
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Post by primenova on Nov 18, 2010 13:17:22 GMT
I think that the PCC should be priced £7.99 & £12.99. They are just transforming Action Masters with partners. The toys are smaller than £3.99 toys. But name the toy Drag Strip - unless they have decide not to use the name Drag anymore.
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Nov 18, 2010 13:23:56 GMT
Given the name, no I will not be buying it.
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Post by Hero on Nov 18, 2010 13:49:34 GMT
No way!
Aside from that, I am not into Power Core Combiners.
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Post by Benn on Nov 18, 2010 14:00:19 GMT
"Yes, but only because I want an Un-PC PCC"
Don't think I'm not tempted, mind you.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2010 14:11:55 GMT
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Post by The Doctor on Nov 18, 2010 22:30:54 GMT
No way in hell am I buying a toy with that name and I can't understand why anyone this side of the pond would want to, to be perfectly frank. Can't we live without just one plastic robot toy?
I wouldn't even buy it if it was re-named. The offence has been done. Hasbro sells products internationally not just in the US and names are checked thoroughly when being checked for trademarks. There is no excuse.
-Ralph
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Post by grahamthomson on Nov 19, 2010 9:48:51 GMT
It'll be interesting now to see which dealers will sell imported Spastic And The Stunticon sets here in the UK.
Will it be sensitivity > profits or sensitivity < profits?
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Post by Bogatan on Nov 19, 2010 10:25:10 GMT
No way in hell am I buying a toy with that name and I can't understand why anyone this side of the pond would want to, to be perfectly frank. Can't we live without just one plastic robot toy? I wouldn't even buy it if it was re-named. The offence has been done. Hasbro sells products internationally not just in the US and names are checked thoroughly when being checked for trademarks. There is no excuse. -Ralph See this is where I think your wrong and the reason I don't so completely share your outrage. I think youre giving far too much credit to Hasbros level of competance. Even though the meaning they have is only slightly removed from ours, sift through the crap on the american boards and the one thing thats obvious is that nobody knew the offence it would cause in the UK/Australian. I don't see any reason to expect anyone working at Hasbro would have known any better. And Nexus Maximus shows they do not bother to check others uses of the names as long as there isn't a trademark issue they don't care. That much was confirmed at Botcon. After that you might have hoped they'd learn a lesson, but as I said incompetance. They utterly ballsed up but they did it following their standard practice. To me the only surprise is it hasn't happened more often. It is and always was a crap name that made no sense and should never have been used even before the UK meaning was being brought up. Once they were made aware of it its should have been changed but I have the suspision the reason that didn't happen is that the first waves are probably already at sea if this is meant tobe on the shelves after Christmas. Andy |
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Post by Shockprowl on Nov 19, 2010 12:57:25 GMT
Not purchooseling. The name choice is too offensive to me. Plus I don't like PCC, so prob wouldn't have been getting it anyway, although there was a slime chance I was going to get it given my recent completement of G1 Menasor.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2010 21:44:39 GMT
I don't bother with most modern day TF toys but if I did I'd probably get it but I obviously wouldn't call it by the given US name. All of the TF toys I've got displayed in my bedroom are only known by name by myself. The rest of my family is totally oblivious as to the names of the toys on display (assuming, that is, they care - which they don't) so, even if I did buy it and displayed it I certainly wouldn't get any funny looks from fellow family members.
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Post by The Doctor on Nov 19, 2010 22:06:34 GMT
But why would anyone want to buy a toy named after a highly derogatory term used to slander people with disabilities? I honestly don't understand.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2010 22:17:03 GMT
But why would anyone want to buy a toy named after a highly derogatory term used to slander people with disabilities? I honestly don't understand. -Ralph Well I personally want one version of every character in the franchise, that's why I'd want one |
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Post by The Doctor on Nov 19, 2010 23:07:33 GMT
Then I posit this hypothetical question: does it matter at all what a toy is called then?
-Ralph
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Post by Bogatan on Nov 19, 2010 23:18:06 GMT
Well I don't think of Darkmount as Darkmount, nor Botcon Turbomaster (Scorch - I had completely forgotten Scorch was called Turbomaster till this week), Pyro (Spark), Streetstar (streetwise), Silverstreak, Autobot Jazz, Rodimus, Richochet, Darkwind, by those names. And thats just the tip of the iceberg with Hasbro recent attempts to use old names. Spastic is some plainly suited to Dragstrip I doubt any other name would have stuck with me.
If a names bad I ignore it.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2010 8:06:02 GMT
Then I posit this hypothetical question: does it matter at all what a toy is called then? -Ralph Not to me really, for most of the reasons that Bogaton gave already, plus many more, like Cybertron series Smokescreen is Rad to me, or Movie Nightwatch Optimus Prime is Nemesis Prime for me |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2010 9:57:32 GMT
I have Alternators Shockblast but as far as I'm concerned he is called Shockwave. The same goes for my G1 re-issue Hot Rod who is officially called Rodimus Major on the box. As Bogatan pointed out the same goes for Darkmount. As far as Nick (Kayevcee) was concerned at AA this year the toy was called Straxus and not Darkmount. It's easy to ignore the official name if the official name doesn't sit well with you.
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Post by skillex on Nov 20, 2010 10:01:09 GMT
I shall not be buying. This is not simply a "bad choice of name" or have the original lapsed from copyright like Rodimus/Hot Rod or Darkmount/Straxus. This is a genuinely offensive name and I would not want to suggest any form of encouragement to Hasbro.
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Post by The Doctor on Nov 20, 2010 11:02:19 GMT
I'll be exiting this thread now because my blood is boiling.
-Ralph
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jan 3, 2011 19:48:34 GMT
I've voted yes. They've changed the name (though we know not what to at the mo) so there's no longer a reason *NOT* to buy the toy because of it's name. Having wanted the name changed I feel I should support Hasbro now they've taken the action we asked for.
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Post by Shockprowl on Jan 5, 2011 14:21:45 GMT
If a names bad I ignore it. Andy This is logical. Spastic, however, is just awefull. Even Russel Howard was talking about how poor it was on his popular comedy/news television programme the other night! I think he may have mentioned "UK fan uproar" (to which I thought 'that's me that's me' like any good fan-boy), but I may have imagined it, 'cos Mrs Shockers has no recollection of him saying anything about UK fans. |
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Post by The Doctor on Jan 17, 2011 8:10:32 GMT
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jan 17, 2011 8:16:29 GMT
I wonder what the instructions inside say?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2011 9:01:08 GMT
Maybe it wasn't cost effective to reprint the boxes, at least for the first batch of him |
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Post by Nigel on Jan 17, 2011 9:11:49 GMT
I think it was Bogatan that predicted a sticker would probably be used, on the basis that the toys were probably already manufactured at the time and possibly even being shipped. Still, interesting question about the instructions.
I wonder how long it'll take before somebody removes the sticker and puts the toy up on eBay as a rare factory error variant.
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Post by grahamthomson on Jan 17, 2011 9:23:54 GMT
A quick glance down that TFW2005 thread reveals that several people plan to spend many hours in toy shops removing all the labels from all the "Over-Runs".
I'm sure there are better uses of one's time and energy.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2011 9:53:08 GMT
A quick glance down that TFW2005 thread reveals that several people plan to spend many hours in toy shops removing all the labels from all the "Over-Runs". I'm sure there are better uses of one's time and energy. But they want to be rebel geeks! |
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