Transformers Universe (2002-2004)

[Philip Ayres]

No, not the recent "Classics line"

The 2002-2004 repaint line

Burns recently bought the nasty Optimus Primal. But has anyone else ever bought or owned anything from this line?

[Philip Ayres]

(with thanks to philstfreviews.site11.com/#Universe )

I had or still have (these are marked with a *)

Micromaster Combiners

Superion*
Devastator*

(also have the Japanse, identical, versions of Defensor & Rail Racer)

Spychangers

Optimus Prime * (everyone needs to own this)
Optimus Prime * & Prowl *
Ultra Magnus * & Ironhide *

Deluxe

Triceradon
Swerve * with Roadhandler *
Nemesis Strika *
Fireflight with Firebot and Thunderwing
Air Raid vs WindSheer
Night Slash Cheetor *

Ultra

Stockade & Magna Stampede with Prowl & Terradive
Whirl with Makeshift & Gunbarrel
Soundwave with Spacecase

Toys R Us Exclusive

Ramjet with Thunderclash, Terradive, Gunbarrel and Thunderwing

Battle in a Box

Ultra Magnus * with Over-Run * vs Treadshot with Nightbeat
Smokescreen with Liftor vs Ransack with Refute

[Bogatan]

I take it back I own more of this than I thought. Sadly too few of the more uniquely coloured ones.

Rook and Tapout
Ransack and Smokescreen
Ultra Magnus and Treadshot
Swerve
All the micromaster combiners

I really do need to get Whirl and so many of the madly coloured Beast ear toys. And Costco Prime.

[The Doctor]

Primal.
Treadshot with Ultra Magnus.
Ransack.
King Atlas (missing in action, alas).

-Ralph

[Jaymz]

I have Inferno and Ratchet, but wasn't really buying TF stuff around the time as Armada and Energon had killed my interest in the line.

[Hero]

I have:

Razorclaw (listed on eBay)
Ratchet
Inferno
Nemesis Prime
Fireflight with minicons
2 Cyberjets whose names I've forgotten
Frostbite
The Micromaster Combiners

Owned:
Universe Sideburn
King Atlas

[Philip Ayres]

Oct 9, 2011 17:54:58 GMT Hero said:

2 Cyberjets whose names I've forgotten

Likely to be Air Raid vs WindSheer 2 pack

[The Doctor]

I was interested in the line at the time but as it did not hit UK retail I passed on it. There's some fine madness in there.

-Ralph

[legios]

i had a few of these back in the day:-

Whirl with Makeshift and Gunbarrell
Superion
Devastator
Ultra Magnus versus Treadshot

spring immediately to mind.

Karl

[Philip Ayres]

Whirl is calling me.

[The Huff]

I bought the Crystal Widow Blackarachnia repaint as well as the orange Blackarachnia repaint. Also got the Ultra Magnus and Treadshot set.

[Andy Turnbull]

Had the Ratchet and still have Autobot Whirl.

Not sure if I had any of the others though.

Andy

[Philip Ayres]

You have the Optimus repaint of the Scourge Spychanger don't you?

The Whirl is *very* nice but it

A) should have had the missile posts remoulded as minicon posts and

B) should have come with Emergency Minicon Prowl because of the FOUR toys packed with Minicons (Whirl, Fireflight, Stockade & Magna Stampede) he's the only one capable of holding him.

I'd have also taken the oppotunity to retool Soundwave's fists to 5mm standard.

[Philip Ayres]

Thus far nobody has admited to owning Universe Silverbolt. This is a good thing.

[legios]

Oct 10, 2011 14:32:03 GMT Philip Ayres said:

You have the Optimus repaint of the Scourge Spychanger don't you?

Sadly not. It is a lovely looking toy but I never managed to track one down. Mind you, if I had it and the Scourge would probably have fought each other incessantly from Scourge's jealously.

The Whirl is *very* nice but it

A) should have had the missile posts remoulded as minicon posts and

B) should have come with Emergency Minicon Prowl because of the FOUR toys packed with Minicons (Whirl, Fireflight, Stockade & Magna Stampede) he's the only one capable of holding him.

I'd have also taken the oppotunity to retool Soundwave's fists to 5mm standard.

I suspect two of those things were impossible for budgetary reason - I get the impression that Universe 1.0 was a very low budget line. Packing him with Minicon Prowl would have been sensible though I wholeheartedly agree.

Karl

[Bogatan]

Universe Silverbolt is the one I probably most want. If it had been available in the UK I would have got it and most of its brethren, but it was in "Armada has killed my interest" period amongst other things and I just never got around to importing them.

[Philip Ayres]

Oct 10, 2011 16:28:58 GMT legios said:

The Whirl is *very* nice but it

A) should have had the missile posts remoulded as minicon posts and

B) should have come with Emergency Minicon Prowl because of the FOUR toys packed with Minicons (Whirl, Fireflight, Stockade & Magna Stampede) he's the only one capable of holding him.

I'd have also taken the oppotunity to retool Soundwave's fists to 5mm standard.

I suspect two of those things were impossible for budgetary reason - I get the impression that Universe 1.0 was a very low budget line. Packing him with Minicon Prowl would have been sensible though I wholeheartedly agree.

Karl

Ah but Whirl's got new tooling on him anyway for the missiles & launchers.

[Bogatan]

Oct 10, 2011 16:28:58 GMT legios said:

I suspect two of those things were impossible for budgetary reason - I get the impression that Universe 1.0 was a very low budget line. Packing him with Minicon Prowl would have been sensible thoughI wholeheartedly agree.

Karl

Yeah the universe brand has been used for some of the most cheap and often pointless sub lines going, especially once it got to the random repacking of Cybertron and Energon toys.

[Hero]

Razorclaw is pretty much a souped up Silverbolt.

Forgot to mention that I have all the Universe Spychangers too. I am sure Phil isn't surprised .

[The Doctor]

Oct 10, 2011 15:09:20 GMT Philip Ayres said:

Thus far nobody has admited to owning Universe Silverbolt. This is a good thing.

I almost bought a MOSC one at AA this year, but Universe Primal zapped the last of my toy budget. Used to have the original BW Silverbolt and I love the mad Universe colours.

I now remember I had the Optimus repaint of Spychanger Scourge, though it seems to be lost to me, alas.

-Ralph

[Philip Ayres]

Oct 10, 2011 17:43:25 GMT Hero said:

Razorclaw is pretty much a souped up Silverbolt.

There's conjecture that Tigerhawk, who Razorclaw is a recolour of, was originally meant to be a Transmetal II Silverbolt.

Oct 10, 2011 17:43:25 GMT Hero said:

Forgot to mention that I have all the Universe Spychangers too. I am sure Phil isn't surprised .

Not in the slightest.

[Philip Ayres]

My Spychanger Prime commands Brave Maximus:


Op_Max_Commander1 by philip_ayres, on Flickr

[legios]

Oct 10, 2011 16:57:10 GMT Philip Ayres said:

Ah but Whirl's got new tooling on him anyway for the missiles & launchers.

Oh, I didn't realise that. For some reason I thought that they were the missiles and launchers from the Machine Wars version. That does make it look more like an oversight that they didn't modify it to add Mini-con hardpoints.

Karl

[Philip Ayres]

Rotorstorm's launchers are built to use the Turbomaster Missiles.

Sandstorm has neutered launchers and no missiles.

Whirl has new longer missiles, cast in plastic not used elsewhere on the toy and modified working launchers that take the + shape of the tail and not the original Turbomaster missiles.

[Jim]

I own Devastator and the Sunstorm / Perceptor set.

I want Depth Charge, Frostbite and Silverbolt (and may be tempted by Razorclaw).

I also have the Superion micromasters but don't remember them being on Universe cards. Were they also released on white, Cybertron-alike cards?

[Philip Ayres]

Yeah. The Micromasters were Universe branded in the US but in Europe thet were Energron or Cybertron depending when the series was released.

[primenova]

Who is the Autobot repaint Skyquake in 3H TF Universe #1-3. there are a few Japan toys he could be.

[Andy Turnbull]

King Atlas.

Andy

[primenova]

That was one I thought it might had been - but few had similar colours. Thank you Andrew!

[kayevcee]

If the 2003 Universe line had been more popular, we could have had an evil Thunderclash.

Think about that.

-Nick