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Post by Philip Ayres on Mar 7, 2015 16:02:20 GMT
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Post by Pinwig on Mar 7, 2015 17:54:51 GMT
I would have thought looking at the style that it was more like unused T30 toy. That would make it contemporary with the Smokescreen mould in terms of production, just a different line.
If they were doing a seeker mould we know they'd reuse it to death, so maybe it was shelved when it was decided to release the seekers using Jetfire's mould. Pity, looks nice. Would probably have lead to Starscream overkill. Been quite a few in the last few years and two more releases this year with the MP reissue and the Leader.
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Post by Shockprowl on Mar 7, 2015 19:45:29 GMT
Grrrrr that Voyager Strike Plane mold looks pretty darn good indeed, much more preferable than the leader sized Jetfire repaints. The potential Prowl mold is ok, but looks more like Jazz with roof-lights to me. Prowl demands perfection, of course.
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Post by The Doctor on Mar 7, 2015 22:00:20 GMT
He demands perfection in the same way that toilet roll must be perfect.
-Ralph
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Post by Shockprowl on Mar 7, 2015 22:53:46 GMT
Exactly. Soft enough that it doesn't make one sore. Rough enough so that it actually does what it needs to. And strong enough to avoid finger poke-through.
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Post by legios on Mar 7, 2015 23:43:42 GMT
Or a photograph of a Two-up used in the development of Legion\Legends\whatever Starscream? The fact that it has some distinct similarities in terms of the wing-folding does make me wonder if it bears a relation to that rather than anything else. Karl. |
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Post by Toph on Mar 8, 2015 2:13:02 GMT
Yeah. Starscream seems to me to be a product of developing that crappy "legend."
It's not uncommon at all for toy companies to make oversized versions as mock ups when designing/sculpting figures. We've not seen it much in TF, but it's widespread in actionfigures, and no reason to believe it's not used in TF more often than we see.
This Starscream looks like it'd make a terrible voyager, given all the hollowness in it.
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Post by Llama God on Mar 17, 2015 14:53:15 GMT
Possibly the wrong thread for this, but I know that the mods'll be on this like scraplets on a poorly-selling character... Anyway, TFW2005 has this bizarre bit of news: www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/generations-classics-44/possible-new-subline-transformers-generations-cyber-series-182293/Over-sized and simplified toys for the Generations line. Hmmm. As I've said before, I have no problem with some of these toys being simplified, because they are, of course, toys. For children. So if they're accessible to children, and there are still more complex toys for the older collector, then that's great. However, given that these larger, simplified toys are carrying a correspondingly higher price tag (and not a smaller one, to more accurately reflect their complexity), I'm not sure how much this effort is going to help the line. But then, this is from a company that puts out Titan Heroes, so anything's possible... That aside, these could end up being... interesting. And Megatron doesn't look too bad at all. I'm just hoping that there'll be a re-mold of that released that looks more like current IDW Galvatron... |
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Post by legios on Mar 17, 2015 15:17:33 GMT
I have to say that I really like the look of the Tank mode for that Megatron. It feels like it has a bit of the aesthetic of both Matt Plog and Stephen Huda's artwork to it (the thick slab-sided feel of some of Plog's designs, with that simple colour scheme giving it a kind of sharply-defined look like Huda's rendered art). Not sure wether the toys themselves are entirely to my taste, but that vehicle mode is a really nice looking design.
Karl
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Post by Philip Ayres on Mar 17, 2015 16:37:11 GMT
This actually ties into a picture we saw a week or so ago: Both are Simplified Generations figures. So into the same thread they go. It'll be interesting to see if they are both from the same line because the feeling was at the time that Starscream was an abandoned concept but just a peak at those toys make me think he'd fit in fine with them. |
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Post by Llama God on Mar 17, 2015 17:10:14 GMT
I had completely forgotten about that. And, that was only ten days ago? I thought it was more. Clearly my brain is not handling time properly at the moment...
Also, I knew I could count on your super-mod powers, Phil. :-)
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Post by Philip Ayres on Mar 17, 2015 17:17:35 GMT
I HAVE THE POWER!
And the OCD/ASD
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Post by Pinwig on Mar 17, 2015 21:19:44 GMT
I'd be up for the Prime and the Megatron cos I'm a sucker for anything FoC styled, but they're too big to use with those figures. I'd be really excited about the Megatron if he was voyager size.
These would have to be cheap to work. We've already had two big Megatrons this year.
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Post by Llama God on Mar 17, 2015 22:12:29 GMT
And rumour of an MP Megs, to boot. (I wouldn't try booting MP-05 - he'll shatter before your foot even makes contact.) I know they like to focus on the core characters, but I'm also pretty sure that the original G1 run (by which I don't just mean 1984) had more than a handful of characters...
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Post by Shockprowl on Mar 17, 2015 22:34:00 GMT
I HAVE THE POWER! And the OCD/ASD You're the best, Big Phil. You keep The Place in a manner Prowl would aprove. Interesting new line. With the whisper of a Prowl..... He he ha haa. He Haa Ha Ha. HAA HA HAAA!!! HA HA HA HAA HAAA HHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!! HHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRGGGGHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Post by legios on Mar 18, 2015 15:48:49 GMT
*lightning crackles down and envelopes Phil, heralding a remarkable transformation...* I keep glancing back at the tank mode for that Megatron, not because I'm particularly fussed about buying the toy in due course, but because the tank mode is so nice I really want to stat something up in Battletech that looks like it. I keep thinking about how those shoulder bits amidships almost look like they have Sponson turrets. If only the Heavy Gauss Rifle could be mounted in a turret :-( (although it looks like it might not turn, so maybe it wouldn't count as a turret, so it could be a horrendous 80 -90 ton slab of "stay away from this quarter of the map" device with tracks on...). To get back on track - does anyone think that the Bumblebee looks very influenced by the RiD design in terms of the general sensibility of it? Karl |
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Post by Philip Ayres on Mar 18, 2015 16:32:49 GMT
The BB is a generic muscle car BB influenced by the films like the T30 deluxe and all the Prime versions
I like the Op.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Mar 26, 2015 7:35:36 GMT
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Post by Llama God on Mar 26, 2015 9:54:00 GMT
Hurrah! They've up-scaled the Legends Optimus Prime!
Oh, arse - they've up-scaled the wrong one! Dammit. Why couldn't it have been the IDW Legends version that they upscaled.
And, also... I just don't understand. I got it with RiD (and AoE before it) that they were going to have more simplistic toys for the younger kids, and that made sense because those are the lines that were being pushed across all age groups. But Generations, I thought, were for the more mature group. Will the younger age groups be after these more G1-like versions of the characters? It's really quite odd.
And, also, they're not that good, either. I know I said elsewhere that I like RiD Warrior Prime, but that's a bit of an oddness to me. And it's a new version of the character. Most of these characters have already been done in this style previously, and better. Apart from Grimlock, mind you. That's just so crazy that it actually works. I might have to get one. But not at full price...
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Post by legios on Mar 26, 2015 10:59:53 GMT
I was about to say that I quite liked that Starscream. Then I looked at the fighter mode, and specifically the hideous mess is appears to have for a dorsal surface... Ach. If it had been an Actionmastery thing without an Altmode fine, but that fighter mode...*shudders*. Still do like the look of the Megatron though. Lovely clean look to it, and the tank-hunter-esque alt-mode is great - just a slab of armour with a gun attached.
Karl
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Post by Pinwig on Mar 26, 2015 19:45:55 GMT
Dunno. They look a bit bubble bath bottle to me. Given their apparent size too, I'm not sure they'd play nicely with the rest of the Generations figures.
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Post by Shockprowl on Mar 26, 2015 20:19:38 GMT
Yeah I'm not really getting this line at all.
And where's my Prowl?
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Post by Toph on Mar 26, 2015 20:29:00 GMT
It would have been nice to issue a statement that explained what niche these are ment to fill.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Mar 28, 2015 23:46:29 GMT
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Post by Shockprowl on Mar 30, 2015 21:45:43 GMT
There are 11 inch versions?
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Post by Llama God on Mar 31, 2015 7:36:11 GMT
Apparently so. I guess these are for the same emerging markets that the Titan figures were aimed at, but possibly weren't selling so well because they didn't, y'know, actually transform...
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Post by The Doctor on Mar 31, 2015 7:48:31 GMT
The Titans were specifically cited by Hasbro at their last investors call thingy as selling gangbusters in, er 'poor markets'.
-Ralph
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Post by Llama God on Mar 31, 2015 8:27:35 GMT
Yeah, that's generally what is meant by "emerging markets". I'm just assuming that these upscaled Legends are the next step on from the Titans.
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Post by kayevcee on Mar 31, 2015 8:41:15 GMT
Transformers has always been an expensive line. I suspect these figures are based on the rise of the Poundland-based toy shoppers. Ralph, remember how many hits your youtube videos reviewing Poundland toys used to get.
-Nick
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Post by legios on Mar 31, 2015 10:27:40 GMT
I actually think these are a good idea. I actually think that they would sell really well in Falkirk if they are priced decently. In the current economic climate the price for deluxe and voyager figures is definitely cutting into sales (Combiner Wars is the first time our Smyths has actually had to do a restock on a Transformers line since it opened). If these are transformable figures at a lower price point then I can see them actually selling reasonably well - well, apart from the Bumblebee as even Wilkinsons can't shift the Falkirk Bumblebeen Mountain.
Karl
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