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Post by Bogatan on Feb 7, 2021 21:45:08 GMT
The problem is $350 isn't much more than the current MP line. Im not sure what does justify a build to order toy at that price.
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Post by Pinwig on Feb 7, 2021 22:22:47 GMT
True. Lot to consider there though. You'd like to think the materials and finish on the MPs is part of what increases the price, whereas Generations style isn't so premium. There is also the fact that Takara seem to be up themselves with that 3.0 style, thinking they're Hot Toys all of a sudden with a price that Transformers as a brand doesn't seem to have supported given the style switch on Skids.
It's true that the Sentinel and Razor don't have transformation mechanics to worry about, but $350 there has allowed for a product significantly different to the retail toys. Thing is now we know an Ark is coming, I can't think what a Transformers toy more than twice the price of Scorponok could be.
As ever, I'd be down for playsets. They'd be Sunbow obviously, so give us the crashed Ark or Shockwave's tower on Cybertron. Hasbro have made a big thing about making all characters in robot mode scale since Siege, so give us a backdrop to put them in.
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Post by Pinwig on Feb 7, 2021 22:25:59 GMT
Course they won't do that. They're not going to release something that doesn't transform.
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Post by Toph on Feb 7, 2021 22:49:33 GMT
The problem is $350 isn't much more than the current MP line. Im not sure what does justify a build to order toy at that price. I still say funding multiple new molds with retools in a large wave is the best use for Transformers. Because there's always a push and pull between fandom and hasbro about non-g1 updates. This is a good way for Hasbro to say "You want a Beast Machines update line? Put your money where your mouth is." But to me, Haslab doesn't (nor shouldn't) be only about "what's too expensive to sell normally?" It should be about "What do fans want, that wouldn't/might not turn a profit otherwise?" Transformer playsets that don't turn into robots. Like the spacebridge, the Axalon's bridge, or Autobot HQ. They could make a pretty big spacebridge playset (three foot diameter) for relatively cheap. |
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Post by Benn on Feb 7, 2021 22:51:44 GMT
Because there's always a push and pull between fandom and hasbro about non-g1 updates. This is a good way for Hasbro to say "You want a Beast Machines update line? Put your money where your mouth is. I am now extremely interested in a Unicron sized Grand Mal playset. |
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Post by Pinwig on Feb 7, 2021 23:27:50 GMT
Oh my word. A spacebridge set! Twenty of the same circular pieces with a central hub. No way would that cost $350 but I'd definitely buy it.
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Post by Benn on Feb 7, 2021 23:40:13 GMT
Maybe if they sold both ends? Shockwaves tower and the circular receiver. And the wee car that a Refracktor can sit in.
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Post by Shockprowl on Feb 8, 2021 8:38:11 GMT
He's mighty impressive. But yeah, too humongous to play with. I bet he's got some equally humongous kibble going on. What's that on his lower legs? And the backpack? |
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Post by Philip Ayres on Feb 8, 2021 8:57:54 GMT
Planet mode shell!
I keep seeing pictures of it in the BW book: Phil wants Neo Unicron!
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Post by Philip Ayres on Feb 8, 2021 9:00:39 GMT
Ooof, just had it pointed out to me the arms are the same mould and you can see screw holes in one!
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Post by Philip Ayres on Feb 8, 2021 9:01:26 GMT
That's not the case here: |
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Post by Dezzeh on Feb 8, 2021 9:25:43 GMT
Yes they are providing screw caps in the box
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Post by The Huff on Feb 8, 2021 10:28:14 GMT
Course they won't do that. They're not going to release something that doesn't transform. Like they'd never do an Ark, because it doesn't transform. Whatever they do next, I just hope it's not a key character peice like Unicron. |
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Post by Pinwig on Feb 8, 2021 19:15:42 GMT
I keep looking at that Unicron thinking, how stable is it going to be without the stand to hold it up?
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Post by Toph on Feb 8, 2021 20:06:08 GMT
Yeah. Straightforward playsets will never happen at retail. They'd need to turn into a robot. Plus, playsets in general aren't really much of a thing anymore, period, outside of toylines like Imaginex.
The last major scale playset I can remember is the TMNT 2012 series sewer playset.
RotTMNT was supposed to have one but I never saw it outside of toyfair promos.
So...a sunbow styled Spacebridge playset, I think should be made up of repeating sections like someone mentioned above. But I also think these sections could be assembled to the ground based bridge, or taken apart and reassembled into Shockwave's tower.
An Axalon playset should be able to "transform" from the Bridge to the Axalon. Tier 1 adds a stasis pod that can hold a reasonable deluxe. Tier 2 adds a protoform.
Tier 3 adds a Battle Damaged Optimus Primal retool for the CR Chamber.
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Post by Jarl on Feb 8, 2021 23:19:08 GMT
Just seen this! Holy Cow that's a big unicron. But it's too small. If Hasbro release a full body, transforming Unicron Adult costume I might just consider it. It would be perfect for Micormaster/WST Scale.
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Post by Toph on Feb 9, 2021 0:03:23 GMT
Unicron's a whole planet. There is no feasible size they could produce that would put him in scale with any toy.
He'd end up being the size of the chicxulub asteroid. And even that would have him scaled as a small moon.
So for me, at least, scale is meaningless for Unicron. So may as well make him a fun toy. Any class works (though I'd prefer Commander)
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Post by Philip Ayres on Feb 9, 2021 7:23:50 GMT
Course they won't do that. They're not going to release something that doesn't transform. Like they'd never do an Ark, because it doesn't transform. Ark posts moved to tmukhub.proboards.com/post/440126/thread |
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Post by Slack on Feb 12, 2021 17:55:08 GMT
Put Unicron in planet mode and move it into the distance. Scale sorted
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Post by Shockprowl on Feb 12, 2021 18:34:40 GMT
Or put Unicron really close to you and have all the rest of your figures really far away.
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Post by Slack on Feb 12, 2021 19:01:34 GMT
Just as good, mine will probably be hung from the ceiling
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Post by Pinwig on Feb 12, 2021 21:01:54 GMT
Seems to be something of a kerfuffle going on about this figure - people annoyed that there are notable colour differences to the images used to sell the toy. Apparently the inner mouth in planet mode is blue when it should be orange and in robot mode his lower row of teeth are also blue and don't match the rest of the mouth.
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Post by The Doctor on Feb 12, 2021 21:11:05 GMT
rU1N3d f0R3v3r.
-Ralph
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Post by Toph on Feb 12, 2021 21:16:32 GMT
I will say that for $600, this figure needs to be damned perfect.
Every paint detail needed needs to be included.
This isn't just another $10-$120 retail toy.
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Post by Jarl on Feb 17, 2021 11:22:31 GMT
Unicron's a whole planet. There is no feasible size they could produce that would put him in scale with any toy. He'd end up being the size of the chicxulub asteroid. And even that would have him scaled as a small moon. So for me, at least, scale is meaningless for Unicron. So may as well make him a fun toy. Any class works (though I'd prefer Commander) This would be my starting point..... www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MqRVDm3DAQ |
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Post by Philip Ayres on Feb 18, 2021 10:10:00 GMT
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Post by The Doctor on Feb 18, 2021 10:18:37 GMT
£1000!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
A ONE THOUSAND POUNDS TRANSFORMER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
-Ralph
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Post by Shockprowl on Feb 18, 2021 13:15:31 GMT
Bloody Nora, why is it as much as that?!
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Post by The Doctor on Feb 18, 2021 13:18:43 GMT
I'd expect the maw to have a 'special feature' at that price.
-Ralph
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Post by Slack on Feb 18, 2021 19:56:42 GMT
That's very poor for a retailer to mark it up that much
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