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Post by Toph on Jul 19, 2019 9:44:12 GMT
I don't know where else to put this.
The Exclusive Apocalypse
This is what hasbro expects of us. Almost all of these went live tonight. A few within the last two weeks. Maybe less than $200 worth is not available yet:
Amazon G2: $50
Amazon Skywarp: $50
Amazon VS: $70
Amazon Greenlight: $22
Pulse G1 Tapes: $30
Pulse Lancer: $20
Pulse Galaxyman: $50
"Fan" Reflector: $80
Walmart Bluestreak: $20
Walmart Soundblaster: $30
Walmart Optimus: $30
Walmart Megatron: $30
Walmart G1 Soundwave: $50
Walmart Rumble/Ravage: $10?
Walmart Frenzy/Laser: $10?
Target Redwing: $30
Target Rainmakers: $80
Target Micromasters: $30
Walgreen Ratchet: $25?
Unicron: $600
• Gamestop/Pulse Ectotron: $30(?)
• SDCC Ghostbusters Optimus Prime: $150
Total: $1,497.
Almost all of it in one night.
Edit- I bolded everything that was put up tonight. I italicized everything that had been put up, or found at retail within the last week.
Edit 2- I FORGOT ABOUT THE GHOSTBUSTERS EXCLUSIVES.
Ectotron went live a while ago but only recently started turning up/being charged. Optimus goes live in a couple weeks.
None of this includes the $400 MP44 Optimus Prime being released/charged within a few days, or that most sites officially put Spinister/Astrotrain/Apeface/Crosshairs up for preorder tonight.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jul 19, 2019 10:04:16 GMT
It was rather taking the p!$$, especially as we didn't know it's all coming. And some will have paid out $550 for Unicron this week too! All this 'preorder today' bit is making me panic about missing out. I'm sure it contributed to the p!$$ poor night I had. Mad mad mad morning, thought I had all I wanted - Tapes, Ratchet, Bluestreak, Soundblaster - then remembered the Micromaster box which isn't on any UK site and isn't in the Siege listing on RK |
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Post by Toph on Jul 19, 2019 11:32:47 GMT
Forgot SDCC Ghostbusters Optimus and Gamestop Ectotron. That brings the total up to $1,500
If you want to add the $400 new MP Optimus that drops in a few days, and the four retail WfC, that cranks it up to $2,000 almost all within a week.
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Post by Toph on Jul 19, 2019 11:35:17 GMT
The cruelest part is this wasn't necessary.
Unicron wasn't an SDCC reveal. So there's no reason they couldn't have put it live back in the spring.
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Post by Dezzeh on Jul 19, 2019 11:50:56 GMT
Who needs money eh.
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Post by Shockprowl on Jul 19, 2019 16:05:54 GMT
Mrs Shockprowl.
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Post by The Doctor on Jul 19, 2019 18:55:43 GMT
It does seem a bit mad to put up so many exclusives for order at the same time. As these types of things can sell out very quickly and then go to silly prices it does mean some folk will miss out. Also just nicer to space these things out enjoyment wise. By all means reveal all at once. Just maybe space out the order dates a bit. Keeps everyone happy.
-Ralph
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Post by Llama God on Jul 20, 2019 7:30:49 GMT
Yeah, much more warning was needed on a lot of these, especially Unicron, and they certainly needed to space this out better. I don't mind one or two exclusives, but so many things all at once? It's madness. I'm hoping it'll calmn down a bit next year, what with it not being a significant anniversary or anything.
Still, on the plus side, being forced to order everything immediately has made me evaluate the toys I *actually* want a lot more carefully, so that's something.
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Jul 20, 2019 7:32:17 GMT
What is weird here is that the CW boxed sets seemed to give rise to the alleged four big TR ones, which got cut back to two, but now we seem to have multitudes of smaller packs. The sheer number of exclusives Siege has had fair boggles the mind. If TR's ones got cut back and PotP had almost nothing, what's changed? There were only two TR boxsets with the packaging designed to provide the option of two more as a possibility. A possibility that was never taken. |
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Post by Llama God on Jul 20, 2019 7:32:46 GMT
I'm guessing it's Hasbro wanting to show that they are actually committed to delivering stuff for the "collectors' market", especially given the distribution woes of the last year. But as discussed elsewhere, they have gone somewhat over the top in doing so.
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Jul 20, 2019 7:33:18 GMT
They appear to have sold all the toys. I don't see how this hasn't worked for them.
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Post by The Doctor on Jul 20, 2019 7:48:57 GMT
It's worked for them in the short term but in the long term it's not a great strategy. Making it difficult for customers to buy your products never works out overall. Just ask Hasbro UK!
-Ralph
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jul 20, 2019 8:20:29 GMT
Here's how the exclusives have fallen the last few years Combiner Wars5 Boxsets - 1 Voyager, 4 Deluxe & 1 Legend - shared exclusive
1 Boxsets - 1 Voyager, 4 Deluxe, 1 Minicon - Entertainment Earth
3 Deluxe figures - shared exclusive
1 Titan - SDCC 2015 Titans Return2 Boxsets - 1 Leader, 1 Voyager, 1 Deluxe, 1 Legend Clone & 1 Titanmaster with die cast face - believed by many to be planned as 4 boxsets with 2 cancelled.
1 Deluxe figure - Walgreens
1 Clone boxset - Walgreens - believed to be from the cancelled boxsets above
2 Deluxe + Titanmaster with die cast face boxsets - TRU - believed to be from the cancelled boxsets above
1 Titan with extra Sword - SDCC 2016
1 3 Pack - SDCC 2016
1 Leader - SDCC 2017
1 stand alone sword
1 Deluxe with Movie Deluxe - Amazon Power of the Primes3 Prime Wars Deluxe + Prime Master - Amazon
1 Leader + 4 Primemasters - SDCC 2018
1 Deluxe - Walgreens
2 Select Deluxe WFC SiegeBattlepack - 1 Deluxe + Battlemaster - Amazon
Battlepack - 2 Deluxe + Battlemaster - Amazon
Battlepack - 1 Voyager + 3 Battlemasters - Amazon
Multipack - 3 Deluxe - Amazon
Multipack - 3 Voyager - Target
Multipack - 10 Micromasters - Target
Multipack - 3 Deluxe - Pulse
2 Select Voyagers
2 Select Deluxe
1 Select Leader
1+ Unknown Select - 1 believed to be Deluxe
1 35th Deluxe - Wal*Mart
3 35th Voyagers - Wal*Mart
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Post by The Doctor on Jul 20, 2019 8:30:47 GMT
That reminds. I still need to source a POTP Punch/Counterpunch!
-Ralph
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Post by Pinwig on Jul 20, 2019 10:12:24 GMT
Excellent list Phil. I was trying to juggle that in my head.
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Post by Toph on Jul 20, 2019 12:42:13 GMT
Nearly half of Siege consists of exclusives now.
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Post by Shockprowl on Jul 20, 2019 16:47:06 GMT
I love the name of this thread! Nice one, CJ!
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Post by The Doctor on Jul 20, 2019 17:02:38 GMT
Nearly half of Siege consists of exclusives now. Which is very interesting. I wonder if it was planned to be a bigger line but they can only have x waves in stores before moving to the next line? -Ralph |
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Post by Pinwig on Jul 20, 2019 17:35:43 GMT
I think we're pretty sure it was intended to be four waves. In the interviews Warden has been giving this weekend he's said wave five is an extension due to popularity.
It's making me wonder what this fifth wave of toys is actually made up of - is it a mixture of stuff that was already done? Like Spinister, Crosshairs and Apeface all have that 87/88 vibe the line shifted to with TR. If the next Titan is Scorponok then it might be that 'Armageddon' is going that way too and we've got toys early - also Spinister has been pushed a few times through the fan vote, so the design would have been as advanced as Impactor/Mirage's.
The exclusives are all quick turnaround things - repaints or repaints+new heads. It's only really Ratchet with his new accessories, Soundblaster's chest and the Reflector boxed set that have much in the way of new mouldings. There's no original character exclusives like Punch/Counterpunch was. Perhaps Hasbro have just made them cheaper for the retailers to buy.
edit: ooh - looking at the pics in the Siege thread I see Ratchet is actually a full on remould! Wow!
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Post by Toph on Jul 20, 2019 18:57:28 GMT
I love the name of this thread! Nice one, CJ! Phil created and named the thread, I just named the event. |
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jul 20, 2019 19:09:24 GMT
Yeah we started in the SDCC thread, with some assistance from elsewhere, but it became apparent it was stretching the limits of SDCC so I moved the posts. I liked the phrase so half inched it for the title.
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Post by The Doctor on Jul 20, 2019 19:09:34 GMT
The event of the year!
-Ralph
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jul 20, 2019 19:11:02 GMT
The year on year increase in exclusives suggests a certain confidence in Generations by US retailers which we don't see here.
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Post by The Doctor on Jul 20, 2019 19:17:37 GMT
The year on year increase in exclusives suggests a certain confidence in Generations by US retailers which we don't see here. I imagine part of the lack of confidence in the UK from retailers has been Hasbro UK's inability to supply product. It may also or instead be the case that perhaps TF's weren't selling in sufficient numbers previously at brick and mortar outlets for stores to want the new stuff. Who knows! -Ralph |
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Jul 20, 2019 22:04:11 GMT
It's worked for them in the short term but in the long term it's not a great strategy. Making it difficult for customers to buy your products never works out overall. Just ask Hasbro UK! -Ralph True but I strongly suspect Fans will just fall in line with this way of doing it rather than actually voting with their wallets. |
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jul 20, 2019 22:09:10 GMT
There's no way I'm getting all of this, but .... I had Ratchet & the Tapes from IDToys yesterday Preorders for w5 Siege with Amazon - don't have spare cash, would rather go Kapow when they go up Micromaster 10 pack, Bluestreak, Soudblaster from RK Previously I'd had Lancer & the Alphastrike box form RK, the Phantomstrike box from Taiwan via eBay and Moonracer from Amazon.com Reflector and the vote three pack are the only things still tempting me |
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Post by Toph on Jul 20, 2019 22:17:13 GMT
It's worked for them in the short term but in the long term it's not a great strategy. Making it difficult for customers to buy your products never works out overall. Just ask Hasbro UK! -Ralph True but I strongly suspect Fans will just fall in line with this way of doing it rather than actually voting with their wallets. If FunPub's price gouging taught us anything, it's this. |
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jul 20, 2019 22:28:23 GMT
Tweaked to clear up confusion about which price gorging FP was meant!
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Post by The Doctor on Jul 21, 2019 9:34:32 GMT
It's worked for them in the short term but in the long term it's not a great strategy. Making it difficult for customers to buy your products never works out overall. Just ask Hasbro UK! -Ralph True but I strongly suspect Fans will just fall in line with this way of doing it rather than actually voting with their wallets. I'm not so sure. There are just so many exclusives many fans won't be able to get all they want. Toy makers need to be wary of making too much of their line exclusives. It can implode a line. Case study: this is what happened to Playmate's Star Trek line. Pissed people off as the line suddenly became hard to collect, sales collapsed, line died. Exclusives are a fine balancing act. As fun extras folk can take or leave them but as Pinwig has pointed out they now make up half off Siege rather than just being optional 'add ons'. I'm very interesting to see where this shift in strategy goes for Hasbro. -Ralph |
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Post by Toph on Jul 21, 2019 9:53:22 GMT
I know I've ended up skipping some that I otherwise would have gotten, like Shackwave and the japanese tape reissues.
And I was really starting to bend and give into Unicron. And that's not happening, anymore.
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