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Post by The Doctor on Oct 2, 2013 17:19:22 GMT
I still much prefer the UK Action Force issues. Flint and Lady Jaye v Destro was much more fun. Such a shame that material has never been reprinted. I would have thought IDW would have mined it by now.
-Ralph
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Post by Philip Ayres on Oct 2, 2013 18:12:55 GMT
Yes it's a surprise it'a not been reprinted for a US audience
Maybe a word with our man on the inside might be in order .....
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Post by legios on Oct 2, 2013 19:09:50 GMT
I still much prefer the UK Action Force issues. Flint and Lady Jaye v Destro was much more fun. -Ralph I have a huge soft spot, personally, for the Action Force stuff that was in Battle - all the stuff against Baron Ironblood and his Red Shadows. Probably because it was the first Action Force media I was exposed to it has stuck in my head quite strongly. Karl |
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Post by The Doctor on Oct 3, 2013 17:20:18 GMT
I don't like that stuff. It's the Marvel era with Flint v Destro or nothing!!!
-Ralph
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Oct 9, 2013 9:32:19 GMT
I quite enjoy that era as well. Though the Flint v Destro stuff is my favourite as well.
Andy
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Oct 9, 2013 19:38:59 GMT
I quite enjoy that era as well. Though the Flint v Destro stuff is my favourite as well. Andy Of all the G.I. Joe and Action Force that I've read, I haven't seen Flint or any other character be such a full-on hero as Hawk in issue #16:  Martin |
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Post by The Doctor on Oct 9, 2013 21:13:12 GMT
Flint saved all of London from destruction!!!
-Ralph
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Oct 10, 2013 5:21:36 GMT
Not in Retaliation he didn't.  But I'm not talking about achievements - in G.I. Joe #16 Hawk achieved nothing except getting himself shot. But with what style! Check out the dialogue in the attached pages, among my favourite in G.I. Joe. Don't you wish Flint got such lines?  Jab jab!    Martin |
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Post by The Doctor on Oct 10, 2013 7:12:48 GMT
He's rubbish. Flint was better.
-Ralph
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Oct 10, 2013 21:48:37 GMT
No that's Hawk. He isn't rubbish. Duke is rubbish.
Andy
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Post by The Doctor on Oct 11, 2013 19:20:02 GMT
At the risk of sounding like I am "trolling" (as they say on the internet) I always thought Hawk was rubbish. I always got him and Duke mixed up as a kid. They seemed pretty interchangeable to me.
-Ralph
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Post by Philip Ayres on Oct 11, 2013 20:15:15 GMT
I broadly agree.
They both fill a field leader/CO role depending on what version and when of GIJoe you're looking at.
I suppose I was lucky in that I read Hawk's strongest story, and the one that fleshes him out a bit as a character first. Unfortunately it's not in the GIJoe comic itself, it's GIJoe vs Transformers.
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Oct 12, 2013 7:24:03 GMT
At the risk of sounding like I am "trolling" (as they say on the internet) I always thought Hawk was rubbish. I always got him and Duke mixed up as a kid. They seemed pretty interchangeable to me. I guess that's understandable from a UK perspective. They do look stupidly the same. I never even noticed Duke in the TF comic back-up strips, but I was aware of Hawk as the general and Flint - easily distinguishable by his wonky hat - as the field commander. But reading the original G.I. Joe series now, they couldn't be confused, for the simple fact that Hawk was leader (though not yet general) for two years before Duke appeared, and then it was another year before Flint was introduced. Duke is only there for three of G.I. Joe's best five years of stories, and Flint for two of them. Hawk's best years are passed before the stories started being printed in the UK. Until Dennis Quaid, obviously! Duke has the most feeble introduction of any character in the comic. The G.I. Joe team are out in the open, exposed and unarmed, as a Rattler comes flying in for the kill. The Rattler is riddled with bullets and goes into a dive! Who has saved them? Cut to a giant black guy firing a heavy machine gun, towering over a little generic chappie firing a pistol, and pretending he's needed. The big guy is Roadblock. The other guy who's impressing nobody is Duke. Martin |
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Post by Philip Ayres on Oct 12, 2013 8:48:57 GMT
Hawk has something of a renaissance around the time the AF comic finishes and it transfers to the TF back up strip due to a new figure coming out in the US when those strips were released. But after Sptingfield he's essentially background till Cobra Island.... when the comic finishes in the UK.
How can you not be impressed by Roadblock? He's one of the best characters in the comic and one of the best file card histories.
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Post by The Doctor on Oct 12, 2013 9:41:09 GMT
Ah, so that's why Hawk made little impression on me.
-Ralph
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Post by blueshift on Oct 14, 2013 23:41:52 GMT
Destro has the better origin though! *
*I use 'better' in a very loose sense!
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jul 21, 2019 15:45:43 GMT
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Post by The Doctor on Jul 21, 2019 16:47:56 GMT
WAIT A MINUTE!
There are TWO Quick-Kick's??!!
Does Andu know of this glorious fact?
-Ralph
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jul 21, 2019 17:06:33 GMT
There are, in theory, two of most of the Action Force team as their profile cards differ from their US counterparts in terms of real names and places of birth. Alpine is Algerian for example, and Barbeque Italian whereas the first non US Joe was Backstop in 87, the year Action Force restarted www.yojoe.com/action/87/backstop.shtml |
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Post by The Doctor on Jul 21, 2019 18:38:27 GMT
Is this more of your lies, like when you tried to tell me Flint was American.
-Ralph
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jul 21, 2019 18:52:46 GMT
He is.
And Wild Bill's not from Hull
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Post by The Doctor on Jul 21, 2019 19:07:57 GMT
LIES!!!
-Ralph
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jul 21, 2019 20:31:40 GMT
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jul 21, 2019 20:32:12 GMT
Would you like some more?
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Post by The Doctor on Jul 21, 2019 20:35:01 GMT
FLINT IS ENGLISH.
WILD BILL IS FROM HULL.
-Ralph
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Jul 21, 2019 20:44:05 GMT
I have the G.I. Joe Order of Battle signed by Larry Hama. It is to G.I. Joe what Budiansky's TFU is to Transformers. And he wrote the file-cards like Bob wrote the TF tech-specs. Hama trumps everything. Sorry, Ralph! Flint is not English.
Martin
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Post by The Doctor on Jul 21, 2019 20:51:41 GMT
He is the quintessential English chap of Action Force the International Heroes!
-Ralph
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jul 21, 2019 20:54:36 GMT
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Post by Shockprowl on Jul 21, 2019 21:18:45 GMT
There is G.I. Joe, and there is ACTION FORCE.
One is good, the other better. Both exist, both can exist, both have existed, both will exist again.
There are two versions. I know which one I prefer.
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Post by greebtron on Jul 21, 2019 21:24:06 GMT
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