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Post by Andy Turnbull on Oct 30, 2019 15:07:50 GMT
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Oct 30, 2019 17:59:04 GMT
Tweaked the colours. I think this needs to be Page 1 of something. As to what, I'm not sure yet.
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Post by The Doctor on Oct 30, 2019 20:39:00 GMT
I have no idea why but it makes me think of Thanos.
-Ralph
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Oct 30, 2019 22:47:50 GMT
So a companion piece to this as the story around it percolates in my head.
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Oct 31, 2019 6:44:09 GMT
So a companion piece to this as the story around it percolates in my head. My mind still boggles when I try to fathom how Ratchet could put Optimus Prime back together after 'Afterdeath' without querying what the blue glowy component with handles in the middle of his chest was for. Martin
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Oct 31, 2019 9:29:54 GMT
Or why didn't Jazz, Bumblebee and Grimlock retrieve Optimus Prime's body.
The answer is clear - The Matrix made sure they didn't.
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Oct 31, 2019 17:18:50 GMT
Or why didn't Jazz, Bumblebee and Grimlock retrieve Optimus Prime's body. What, to shoot it off into space again? Optimus Prime didn't need it, he had his Powermaster body at this point. And I think Thunderwing left Bumblebee and co. unconscious at the end of that story as I recall. Martin
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Oct 31, 2019 18:49:46 GMT
If the Matrix had reanimated the Deathbringer, why did they not suppose there was a chance it would have reanimated Optimus?
Powermaster Optimus was created via a back-up copy, which they were familiar with - given Grapple and co. So why would they not bother with going and at least checking on Optimus?
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Post by The Doctor on Oct 31, 2019 20:39:02 GMT
Maybe Ratchet DID notice the big blue glowing thing in Prime's chest. There may have been a reason why it was not on show while the other Autobots looked on.
-Ralph
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Oct 31, 2019 21:12:15 GMT
The best thing of all, of course, was the Protectobots driving away with the remains of Optimus's cab body, while leaving his intact trailer behind for Ethan Zachary to play with (and no doubt install Floppy Prime back into at some point).
Martin
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Oct 31, 2019 21:19:05 GMT
It was odd, that they didn't just load his remains into Optimus' trailer and tow that away.
Thing is could Ethan Zachary have done much with the trailer/combat deck anyway. Also, would it have remained his hands, easy enough for him to keep the disc, but you'd think RAAT/Triple I would have seized it, national security and all that.
Andy
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Oct 31, 2019 21:26:37 GMT
It was odd, that they didn't just load his remains into Optimus' trailer and tow that away. Thing is could Ethan Zachary have done much with the trailer/combat deck anyway. Also, would it have remained his hands, easy enough for him to keep the disc, but you'd think RAAT/Triple I would have seized it, national security and all that. Nah, I reckon he shifted it into a parking garage on the quiet. After all, it just looked like an Earthen lorry trailer. And the next time we see him, he has his own tech company! (That's what I had him do in the GMMverse anyway. And then years later the (post-HiQ) cab Op and original Prime trailer are reunited with two different sets of memories - one of becoming a Powermaster and fighting Unicron and Bludgeon, the other of helping Ethan repel various Decepticon threats from the Internet... and helping teach/nursemaid Buster Witwicky's Matrix-endowed baby granddaughter, but that's another story...) Martin
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Oct 31, 2019 21:31:37 GMT
The GMMverse is a fine thing too.
I have enjoyed it immensely.
It's what got me pondering about some of the elements of Marvel's run.
Andy
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Oct 31, 2019 21:37:27 GMT
But anyway, back to your thread and your story. What's wrinkly Rodimus pondering doing with Prime's original (cab module) body? Martin
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Oct 31, 2019 21:41:22 GMT
He's not, not yet anyway.
Wrinkly Rodimus is feeling the pull of Unicron still within the Matrix and knows a confrontation is looming.
Andy
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Post by The Doctor on Nov 6, 2019 21:31:37 GMT
Ethan could easily have got good stuff from working on Prime's trailer. How quickly we forget that Prime was formed of three components: robot, roller and Command Deck (trailer). Probably a third of Prime's mind in there.
-Ralph
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Nov 6, 2019 21:54:48 GMT
Roller - we never saw him repaired after Plague of The Insecticons in the annual.
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Post by blueshift on Nov 6, 2019 22:02:38 GMT
Roller - we never saw him repaired after Plague of The Insecticons in the annual. rip That made me SO SAD as a kid Also when prowl dies
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Nov 7, 2019 6:43:16 GMT
Roller - we never saw him repaired after Plague of The Insecticons in the annual. His name lived on in Motormaster's evil Roller, the Micromaster Race Track Patrol member Roller Force, and the Rock Lord Rock Roller. Who presumably likes to roll rocks. You're right, we never saw him rebuilt in the comics, but his return was implied by Powermaster Prime's TFU entry. www.ntfa.net/universe/english/index.php?act=view&char=Optimus_Prime_PM"His auxiliary or "Prime" module is a small cart-shaped device that he stores in his trailer portion and occasionally uses to sneak behind enemy lines for reconnaissance purposes. He can maintain radio control over it within a 1200-mile radius. Having his auxiliary unit in the field is like being there himself." Except this may not be Roller, as PM Prime's scout car isn't given a name. Unlike original Op's TFU entry which said: "His Prime module, also known as Roller, is a small cart-shaped device that he uses to unobtrusively slip behind enemy lines. He can maintain radio control over it at distances up to 1200 miles. Having Roller present somewhere is like being there himself." So who is the imposter Roller in PM Prime's trailer??? And why is he missing from the toy? Has he lost his name because it's been stolen by Motormaster's scout car? Martin
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The End
Nov 7, 2019 7:19:28 GMT
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Post by blueshift on Nov 7, 2019 7:19:28 GMT
Not sure if a serious question Martin, but there was a roller designed for the PM prime toy, it was going to transform into primes head. That's why the head is a separate piece, but they ended up scrapping the idea
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Nov 7, 2019 7:39:50 GMT
Not sure if a serious question Martin, but there was a roller designed for the PM prime toy, it was going to transform into primes head. That's why the head is a separate piece, but they ended up scrapping the idea Yep, was aware. Drawings of it in the first Generations book. Though of course none of that is referred to in the PM Prime TFU text. Would have blown kids' minds if it had been so described! Martin
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Nov 10, 2019 17:08:48 GMT
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Post by The Doctor on Nov 10, 2019 17:08:48 GMT
A real name HM Roller didn't happen.
-Ralph
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Post by Pinwig on Nov 10, 2019 17:19:40 GMT
This incorporation of Roller into the gimmick of the time made me think - Hasbro have done a good job with the Siege Weaponisers of providing all the 'buddy' characters to the Titans. Now we're getting a Prime with a trailer, Roller seems like a logical addition in the same vein. But, the focus for Weaponisers has now become bases, so the question is - would you want a Roller for Earthrise Prime to be a Micromaster to make him the right size, or a Deluxe Weaponiser that could break apart and give Prime armour? Both options are appealing, but I think with bases being the focus for Deluxes now that a Micromaster is more likely. We've had Soundwave's cassettes, Roller could fit that style. If he was a Micromaster though, who would he pair with in the pack?
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Nov 10, 2019 18:54:00 GMT
would you want a Roller for Earthrise Prime to be a Micromaster to make him the right size, or a Deluxe Weaponiser that could break apart and give Prime armour? If it doesn't live inside Prime's trailer, it's not Roller. A thing that breaks apart into armour for Prime is Godbomber, not Roller. Martin
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Post by Philip Ayres on Nov 10, 2019 19:01:48 GMT
Could Godbomber be an evolved form of Roller?
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Post by Pinwig on Nov 10, 2019 19:12:07 GMT
If it doesn't live inside Prime's trailer, it's not Roller. Both the Deluxe and Micromaster size class will fit in the new trailer, so a Roller could be either. Roller doesn't have to come with Prime to be Roller - Sixgun, Brunt and Cog have all assumed their correct roles and places, but didn't come with the Titan figure they did in G1. If you're being a traditionalist, yes. But we now have an Ironworks who is actually the base and turns into a robot, not the Micromaster who runs the base. Also, the Roller with Star Convoy is a massive transport who is actually the drive mechanism under Prime's trailer, not it in. It was just a 'what if?' question of personal preference. I reckon a Micromaster Roller would be a perfect addition to the new Leader Prime, finish him off nicely. Given the current trends I can't see why Hasbro wouldn't do that. It makes perfect sense. Of course whether or not Roller should have a robot mode is another matter entirely.
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Post by The Doctor on Nov 10, 2019 21:29:49 GMT
Could Godbomber be an evolved form of Roller? I want to say that's been in a fanfic but my memory is failing me. -Ralph
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