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Post by Shockprowl on Jan 19, 2020 22:48:47 GMT
What has been the 'Best' manifestation of the Transformers' Life Giving... thingy-force-object?
I grew up with the The Creation Matrix. A mental Primal Program. It made sense, and was was was... roboty. And it sounds cool, The Creation Matrix.
Then the 'Movie' came along and ruined everything and made it a physical object, albeit a pretty physical object, which would or would not open to dramatic effect.
The comic, IIRC, then kinda retconned it into a physical object that can be projected through the mind... or something.
The Cartoon had a Super Computer, Vector Sigma, give life to Transformers. It needed a key. Can an AI grant sentience...? Was Vector sentient itself?
Then there's the whole Bayverse Movie franchise fuck-fest disaster-carbuncle All Spark nonsense, which should be sealed in concrete and forgotten forever. They had a 'Matrix' to, I think, but I'm not sure, 'cos thinking about the live-action movies makes my eyes bleed.
I am NOT bias at all.
Any I've missed? Right board for this?
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Jan 19, 2020 23:04:04 GMT
I've voting for the pre-Movie Matrix, but it wasn't _just_ a life-giving computer program. It could also levitate, assemble and disassemble complex machinery, at least when possessed by Buster Witwicky.
Martin
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Post by Shockprowl on Jan 19, 2020 23:12:55 GMT
EXACTLY! It was... It was... Mysterious! Alien!
THE CREATION MATRIX!
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Post by Pinwig on Jan 19, 2020 23:32:57 GMT
You could write for hours and hours about this. It's a fascinating subject. I think for the sheer sense of awe you have to go option one. It's interesting to ponder where that would have gone had the film not tried to retrofit the matrix into something tangible and visual to put on screen. In that regard it's a shame the comic didn't have the independence to remain separate to the cartoon and treat the film with the same disdain. But then we'd never have got Target 2006.
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Post by Pinwig on Jan 19, 2020 23:42:22 GMT
I'm torn on the creation stuff these days. The comic is the better continuity obviously, but I do love the cartoon now I've thought so much about it. Vector Sigma isn't sentient in my view, it's a tool that's part of the Quintesson production line, but not necessarily created by the Quintessons. Primacron has a hand in there somewhere.
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Post by The Doctor on Jan 20, 2020 12:14:04 GMT
COMPUTER PROGRAM.
-Ralph
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