Generations G1 checklist: Who's left?

[Toph]

The current team seems to consider Combiner Wars to be a hard restart. Anything done before then doesn't seem to count. Things done by FP do not seem to count.
So things done from molds older than CW, I am listing.
I also admit to being heavily biased against some repaints that just don't work (potp inferno, tr getaway)

I am not listing things we've seen through leaks, and thus are confirmed. Micromaster base modulators do not count as the TF named itself.

Here are the G1 guys that have yet to be touched...

1984/85
Gears
Huffer
Cosmos
Warpath
Camshaft
Downshift
Overdrive
Roadbuster
Whirl
Tracks
Inferno
Skids
Blaster (done but out of current scale)
Buzzsaw (done but not in current style)
Shrapnel
Venom
Barrage
Ransack
Chopshop (done but repaint of preexisting mold)

1986
Swerve
Pipes
Wreck-Gar
Ramhorn
Steeljaw
Eject
Rewind (not in current scale/style)
Sandstorm

1987
Freeway
Goldbug
Wideload
Searchlight
Rollbar
Surshot
Pointblank
Slugfest
Overkill

1988
Fizzle
Sizzle
Guzzle
Backstreet
Overdrive
Dogfight
Landfill
Quickmix
Scoop
Nightbeat
Siren
Hosehead
Getaway
Joyride
Slapdash
Cloudburst
Waverider
Landmine
Groundbreaker
Splashdown
Sky High
Catilla
Chainclaw
Gunrunner
Squawkbox
Cinersaur
Flamefeather
Sparkstalker
Crankcase
Ruckus
Windsweeper
Needlenose
Quake
Fangry
Horri-Bull
Squeezeplay
Bomburst
Bugly
Submarauder
Iguanus
Skullgrin
Finback
Carnivac
Snarler
Roadgrabber

1989
Pretenders
Doubleheader
Longtooth
Pincher
Crossblades
Vroom
Skyhammer
Icepick
Birdbrain
Bristleback
Slog
Scowl
Wildfly
Bludgeon
Octopunch
Stranglehold
Thunderwing
Roadblock

1989/90 Micromasters
· Airstrike Patrol (Nightflight, Tailwind)
· Battle Patrol (Sunrunner, Sidetrack)
· Offroad Patrol (Tote, Mudslinger)
· Racecar Patrol (Tailspin, Free Wheeler)
· Rescue Patrol (Seawatch, Fixit)
· Sportscar Patrol (Detour, Roadhugger)
· Air Patrol (Eagle Eye, Blazemaster, Sky High, Treadbolt)
· Construction Patrol (Takedown, Crumble, Groundpounder, Neutro)
· Hot Rod Patrol (Greaser, Hubs)
· Military Patrol (Dropshot, Tracer)
· Monster Truck Patrol (Big Hauler, Heavy Tread, Hydraulic, Slow Poke)
· Race Track Patrol (Barricade, Groundhog, Motorhead, Roller Force)
· Astro Squad (Barrage/Heave, Moonrock/Missile Master
· Battle Squad (Meltdown/Half-Track, Fireshot/Vanquish)
· Constructor Squad (Stonecruncher/Excavator, Grit/Knockout, Sledge/Hammer)
· Metro Squad (Power Run/Strikedown, Oiler/Slide, Roadburner/Wheel Blaze
· Erector
· Flattop
· Roughstuff
· Overload
· Airwave (micromaster, not base)
· Greasepit (micromaster, not base)
· Hothouse
· Skystalker
· Cement-Head/Terror-Tread
· Retro/Surge
· Pipeline/Gusher
· Spaceshot/Blackout
· Full-Barrel/Overflow

1990 Actionmasters
Rad
Rollout
Treadshot
Jackpot
Mainframe
Bonzai-Tron
Kick-Off
Skyfall
Over-Run
Axer
Sprocket
Gutcruncher

[Toph]

Japanese and European G1
Only listing toys that have significant deco difference from their US release.

Japanese
The Headmasters
Artfire
Twincast
Graphy
Noise
Dile
Zaur
Raiden (Shouki, Getsuei, Yukikaze, Suiken, Seizan, Kaen)

Super-God Masterforce
Goshooter
Cab
Minerva
Ranger
Doubleclouder
Hardspark
Hotspark
Hydra
Buster
Browning
BlackZarak
Guzzle
Javil

Victory
· Landcross (and his individual robots. This dude's a mess and I'm too tired to figure it out)
· Road Caesar (Blacker, Laster, Braver)
Star Saber
Galaxy Shuttle
Victory Leo
Blue Bacchus
Dinoforce
Leozak
Jallguar

Zone
imma do the micromasters later. Figuring those dudes out will be a mess
Metrotitan
Metrobomb
Metrotank
Metrodash
Metroshot

Return of Convoy
Grandus
Sky Garry
micromasters coming soon

European
1991
Powerflash
Circuit
Rumbler
Omega Spreem
Windmill
Flame
Gripper
Lightspeed
Charger
Take-Off
Thundercracker
Double Punch
Turbo Master

1992
Thunderclash
Boss
Flash
Hurricane
Scorch
Rescue Force Buggy
Rescue Force Drill
Rescue Force Jet
Rescue Force Tank
Skyquake
Falcon
Skydive
Snare
Stalker
Talon

[Toph]

G2 Bonus spot for poops and giggle, but largely because some UK exists in a weird nebulous place

(As before, only listing toys with enough significant deco changes from previous or more prominant releases)

1993
Optimus Prime (original. Sorta done through netflix)
Jazz
Beachcomber
Bumblebee
Hubcap
Seaspray
Rapido
Skram
Turbofire
Windbreaker
Drench
Gobots
Megatron
Starscream
Ramjet
Devastator (yellow)
Devastator (orange)
Afterburner
Eagle Eye
Terradive
Windrazor
Deluge
Jetstorm
Grimlock (Teal)
Grimlock (Blue)
Slag (red)
Slag (green)
Snarl (red)
Snarl (green)

1994
Optimus Prime (Hero)
Defensor
Leadfoot
Manta Ray
Electro
Volt
Dreadwing & Smokescreen
Powerdive
Ransack
Jolt
Sizzle

1995
Optimus Prime (Combat Hero)
General Optimus Prime (autoroller)
Sgt. Hound
Air Raid (cyberjet)
Jetfire
Strafe
Road Rocket
Jazz (Lasercycle)
Megatron & Starscream (ATB)
Hooligan
Skyjack
Spacecase
Roadpig
Soundwave (lasercycle)
Dirtbag
Roadblock

Gobots
All of them

European G2
Pyro
Blaze
Sizzle
Aquafend
Jetstorm
Deftwing
Ironfist
Ironhide
Meanstreak
Clench
Aquablast
Drench
Hydradread
Rage
Calcar
Fearswoop
Bulletbike
Staxx

[Toph]

It surprised me of how little of 86 and 87 are left.

[Pinwig]

Somewhere in another thread I did this but with the approach of thinking what aesthetically fits together to make the optimum CHUG collection as opposed to seeing CW as a restart. But even then, I was thinking that in my own collection I'd be looking for post FoC moulds only. Wasn't quite right there, I think there are some classics that still reign supreme, like Mirage and 2010 Wheeljack/Tracks.

I know that isn't the analysis you're doing here, you're looking at what's missing from CW onward with a view to where Warden may go next, but if you do include good figures from the older lines there isn't much missing from 84-87 at least.

[Toph]

Well yeah, if you include everything that qualifies as classics dating back to post UT, the list drops by a further half.
But Warden seems to consider everything pre-CW (including timelines) to be null and void.
Even since CW, there's no "we just did this guy, so lets do one we haven't touched" filter.


Also it showed some trends in their selections I've not noticed before. (Like, aside from Metalhawk and Black Shadow, they've not touched one single pretender)

[The Doctor]

There was a whole line of Pretenders in POTP.

When did Warden start working on the line? He may not be fussed about pre-CW if he wasn't about then.

-Ralph

[Pinwig]

I think Pretenders are economically unviable, which is why they did them as Titanmasters. The releases at the moment seem odd. Prime Wars seemed to want to release as many characters as it could from the brackets it was taking from, but Earthrise seems to be largely about repeating Siege.

[Pinwig]

Jul 9, 2020 21:06:56 GMT The Doctor said:

When did Warden start working on the line? He may not be fussed about pre-CW if he wasn't about then.

-Ralph

I think that's what Toph is saying. He came in during T30 and became the lead for CW.

[Andy Turnbull]

Warden called them Decoy Suits do you not remember getting really angry about it?!

[The Doctor]

I blanked that from my mind.

-Ralph

[Toph]

Jul 9, 2020 21:23:18 GMT Andy Turnbull said:

Warden called them Decoy Suits do you not remember getting really angry about it?!

They are not the pretender characters. They are tiny lies! And thus do not count. (Seriously, if the tiny robot inside was the character's head, I'd consider it an actual update. But it has nothing to do with them at all)

Jul 9, 2020 21:14:00 GMT Pinwig said:

Jul 9, 2020 21:06:56 GMT The Doctor said:

When did Warden start working on the line? He may not be fussed about pre-CW if he wasn't about then.

-Ralph

I think that's what Toph is saying. He came in during T30 and became the lead for CW.

Indeed. I've heard he was in charge of Joe before TF, and is the reason they all became nothing but a conveyor belt of the same dozen characters over and over, and thus why the brand collapsed.
Dunno how involved he was with TF, but I've heard that he was put in charge when they rebranded into "Prime Wars." And his actions and comments since then seem to indicate he looks at CW as a hard restart. (And Siege seems to be a soft restart)

Jul 9, 2020 21:12:13 GMT Pinwig said:

I think Pretenders are economically unviable, which is why they did them as Titanmasters. The releases at the moment seem odd. Prime Wars seemed to want to release as many characters as it could from the brackets it was taking from, but Earthrise seems to be largely about repeating Siege.

Full 100% G1 accurate action figure shell+transforming robot inside aren't.
But that's never stopped them from giving us updates in the past. We got TWO in Titans Return (Metalhawk and Black Shadow).
Bludgeon and Thunderwing are two of the most popular TFs of all time. Wouldn't have taken much to get Thunderwing out of Black Shadow. TR Wolfwire would have made a reasonable Carnivac, even.

[The Doctor]

Bludgeon turned up in New RID and Cyberverse so you never know: his time as a full Generations toy may come.

-Ralph

[Shockprowl]

Jul 9, 2020 21:50:37 GMT Toph said:

Bludgeon and Thunderwing are two of the most popular TFs of all time. Wouldn't have taken much to get Thunderwing out of Black Shadow. TR Wolfwire would have made a reasonable Carnivac, even.

I think this is what you list highlights the best, CJ. How many really straight forward, but fan acceptable repaints they've missed. Easy money for them, lost!

[Llama God]

Jul 9, 2020 21:50:37 GMT Toph said:

Jul 9, 2020 21:23:18 GMT Andy Turnbull said:

Warden called them Decoy Suits do you not remember getting really angry about it?!

They are not the pretender characters. They are tiny lies!

All Transformers are lies! Robots in *disguise*! Pretending to be something they're not! The entire foundation of this whole rotten franchise is a bed of filthy lies! Lies upon lies upon lies!

...

But yes. Much as I was excited by the idea of the PottoP "Decoy Suits", and bought them all to try and send the message that there was a market for this sort of thing, they're not really proper Pretenders. Not really.

[The Doctor]

They're good enough for me.

-Ralph

[Llama God]

ALWAYS DEMAND BETTER.

[The Doctor]

BUILD BUILD BUILD.

-Ralph