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Post by The Doctor on Oct 7, 2022 20:10:09 GMT
Finished the first run of Prodigy. Brilliant. Might even be my favourite of the new Trek shows.
-Ralph
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Post by The Doctor on Jun 23, 2023 19:17:24 GMT
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Post by Toph on Jun 24, 2023 0:18:54 GMT
Oh that breaks my heart.
Prodigy was one of the two main reasons I got P+.
(On a side note, this should probably be in the prodigy or trek thread. Nothing to do with willow)
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Post by The Doctor on Jun 24, 2023 3:07:49 GMT
(I am sure Phil will do some thread realocation).
-Ralph
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Post by Bogatan on Jun 24, 2023 8:36:18 GMT
Unlike the other cases, Paramount at least appear to be trying to offload Prodigy to someone else.
Guess I should pick up the Bluray at some point, just in case.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jun 24, 2023 9:14:25 GMT
(I am sure Phil will do some thread realocation). -Ralph He has |
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Post by legios on Jun 24, 2023 9:21:13 GMT
I had been planning to pick up Paramount+ for a couple of months, and one of the main reasons I was going to do so was to see Prodigy... Now rethinking that plan a bit. Well done Paramount+, you may have dissuaded me from trying out your service.
Karl
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Jun 24, 2023 11:30:02 GMT
It's still there now and well worth catching if you can. One of the best (if not the best) of the new Trek shows. Took me totally by surprise.
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Post by The Doctor on Jun 24, 2023 11:47:37 GMT
I had been planning to pick up Paramount+ for a couple of months, and one of the main reasons I was going to do so was to see Prodigy... Now rethinking that plan a bit. Well done Paramount+, you may have dissuaded me from trying out your service. Karl Same. I had planned to sub to see the last half of s1 but now I won't bother if it's being yanked. -Ralph |
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Post by legios on Jun 24, 2023 18:27:34 GMT
It's still there now and well worth catching if you can. One of the best (if not the best) of the new Trek shows. Took me totally by surprise. By all accounts it is coming down in a matter of days, so I doubt I would have time to finish it - not at the rate that I tend to watch television. And I think it would be more annoying to have started it and not be able to finish it, than the alternative. Karl |
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Jun 24, 2023 20:44:52 GMT
Poo. 🙁
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Post by The Doctor on Jun 24, 2023 22:09:15 GMT
I agree with the Kaptain. I don't want to sign up for P+ if the series is pulled before I can watch it all. I don't like binge watching. One or two episodes at a time is my limit. I was trained by Trek VHS tapes!
-Ralph
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Post by Bogatan on Jul 9, 2024 14:17:42 GMT
Watching Season 2 now that its on Netflix and as Netflix requires to be classed as a hit, Im binge watching. Its really good. Season 1 got consistantly better as it went but I was still not totally engaging with it. This is much better. {Spoiler}Even if it is Voyager Season 8/ Voyager TNG. but thats alright as I now get to see what a good season of Voyager would have looked like.
It does seem that no one wants to be the one to officially promote Harry, so he's not mentioned, ever. I suppose that is the most Harry Kim thing possible.
Or maybe LDS name checked him? I suppose I'll have to do a rewatch to check.
Not sure if B'Elanna or Kes have been mentioned anywhere yet either, but everyone who made it to Earth has appeared in new Trek except Haryy and B'Elanna.
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Post by The Doctor on Jul 9, 2024 15:59:23 GMT
I'll get round to it an episode at a time in due course. I dislike binge watching.
-Ralph
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Post by Bogatan on Jul 12, 2024 14:17:47 GMT
Finished season 2. Im just gonna say it.
Might be the best individual season of Trek Ive ever seen.
Maybe.
Its certainly the best serialised single story season of Trek, but its only really competing against Picard in that catagory. Best season of Voyager? Definitely. But again not the highest of bars.
It probably helps that in seaon 2 it sort of morphs into Later seasons Lower Decks (specifically with the addition of a certain character). It also covers something I hoped Lower Decks would get to but with its cancellation Im glad someone else addresses it a little.
Despite that I still dont love it. Ive got a feeling thats due to the Voyager link. The same show with a DS9 backstory and Sisko ECH and its straight up my favourite thing ever. I'd still take DS9, LDS and TNG over Prodigy any day. But I dont think any of those has a consistantly better single season. (Maybe. DS9 6 and 7 in with a shout, but Im sure theres at least one or two duff episodes in each. LDS S4 is really strong, but its half the episodes. Its season long arc doesnt work quite as well, but it has strong individual episodes)
It is a bit strange that it trades in season ones Star Trek without the baggage to become quite a continuity heavy show, but I dont think thats a bad thing and it happens naturally enough, but I do wonder how the season 1 target audience adjusted to it.
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Post by Toph on Jul 12, 2024 16:46:50 GMT
I'm five episodes away from the end. Yeah, it's become continuity heavy, but I think it's still extremely understandable if you've never seen Trek outside of Prodigy. They are definitely leaning in hard for the Janeway/Chakotay shippers |
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Post by legios on Jul 12, 2024 17:05:32 GMT
I'll get round to it an episode at a time in due course. I dislike binge watching. -Ralph Likewise. I'm planning on starting S2 this weekend, and enjoying it the same way I did S1 - savouring it an episode at a time. I don't want to binge watch my television in exactly the same way I don't want to throw good food down my throat in a hurry. Netflix can't make me, they aren't the boss of me. Karl |
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Post by Bogatan on Jul 12, 2024 17:19:38 GMT
I'm five episodes away from the end. Yeah, it's become continuity heavy, but I think it's still extremely understandable if you've never seen Trek outside of Prodigy. Spoiler
They are definitely leaning in hard for the Janeway/Chakotay shippers Spoiler
Which is funny to me because on my last rewatch of Voyager the only way I could get their relationship to work (and Janeways relationships with basically everyone else really) was to view it as almost abusive.
I mean not literally obviously, but across all Trek, those scenes that play out in the ready room where first officer and captain hash it out they've always felt respectful and open. Except Janeway and Chakotay, those always seemed to end up Chakotay reacting as if he had just been threatened and backing down in fear of unspeakable horrors that we the viewer where never privvy to. |
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Post by Toph on Jul 15, 2024 6:23:23 GMT
Just finished S2, and the last episode is an emotional gut punch. It's really good writing. It wraps up two seasons of stories very strongly, because you can tell that they either felt Paramount was gonna axe them, or that they found out with enough time that they could close it down. Because this absolutely was written as a series finale. It did it better than Discovery did. But, it also left a very wide door open for Season 3, if the very unlikely chance it gets renewed happens. I love these kids. This may not be my favorite Trek, but these two seasons are my favorite Trek story.I'm glad they found a way to resurrect holo Janeway, and that they managed to do so without diminishing her season 1 sacrifice. That particular version of her is gone forever. Going to a hypothetical that Boga put forth, it would be interesting if it was Sisko instead of Janeway. Because I think Sisko would absolutely eat these kids up. I think he'd get one look at them and go "I've known them for all of five minutes, but if anything ever happened to them, I would kill everyone in the galaxy and then myself." The endgame would be pretty different too, as Sisko actually has experience dealing with someone exactly like Ascensia. |
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Post by legios on Jul 28, 2024 19:39:49 GMT
I'm seven episodes in to Season 2 and I've got mixed feelings about this. I'm not sure that it feels like it is going at quite the pace that the first season did. It felt like there was a lot of fiddle-faddling around at times that was getting in the way of letting me see these kids do their stuff. It is getting better now that it has been allowed to stretch its legs, and I am hopeful it will continue more in the vein of episodes six and seven than of episodes one and two. But it didn't feel like the season opened quite as sure-footedly as the first season did. Also, did we need to have Robert Picardo's Doctor character from Voyager? If they didn't want, or couldn't schedule Kate Mulgrew to do the mentoring "adult" character role, there were already two characters continuing from last season they could have used. Why drag in another character from another show, that has no history with this shows characters to do that. Similarly I groaned a bit when they unveiled the Voyager-A, in the spot where I think they were expecting me to be cheering. It kind of felt like they were shackling another "hand-me-down" to Prodigy's ankles instead of letting this show just be its own thing. But like I say, after some concerns regarding the first couple of episodes they've let these kids do their thing, get themselves into trouble and out of it by their inimitable method of jumping straight into something worse, which is what I was here for. Time will tell if the second season can measure up to the high bar set by the first, but I remain hopeful. I mean, they've started off from quite a high at the end of the first season - it's not like we've got another sharp, Picard like plummet on our hands - they've still got plenty of time to pull up before they hit that deck. :-) Karl |
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Post by Toph on Jul 29, 2024 4:05:55 GMT
Regarding your spoiler: I'm pretty sure the idea behind using the Doctor is almost definitely because he's a hologram. Which creates another parallel to S1.
There are a lot more parallels than you'd think. The V-A is almost like a prison to the kids, which parallels the literal prison they were in in the first few episodes of S1.
While they were not in an actual prison, Janeway cares deeply about them, as do the rest of the crew, they were in a place where they couldn't shine.
They were not living up to their potential. And they literally had to escape Voyager, in order to become their best selves.
There are more parallels, but I'm now risking deep spoilers for you to mention them. |
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Post by legios on Jul 29, 2024 6:20:12 GMT
Interesting. If they are doing something thematic with it then I'll be prepared to forgive them. I should perhaps have given them a bit more credit, given how well they executed the first season - and how well they have executed other parts of this season. I'll cut them a bit of slack with it and see how things play out.
I am old, sometimes this makes me a bit grouchy. :-)
Karl
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Aug 10, 2024 22:25:45 GMT
Season 2 completed. Thoroughly enjoyable.
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Post by The Doctor on Aug 10, 2024 23:03:16 GMT
I will get round to it. Have felt no rush as it has zero chance of getting a 3rd season. Barely any promotion from Netflix and when the show was originally comissioned for P+ it was for a 2-season order. I therefore presume it would have to do gangbusters for Netflix to order more.
-Ralph
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Post by legios on Aug 11, 2024 19:38:35 GMT
Ah, I didn't know that it was originally a 2 season order. That makes certain things make a little bit more sense knowing that. I'm currently on episode 11 of season two and am, on balance enjoying it. I'm not sure that I am enjoying it as much as I did the first season some of that can be attributed to having to sit through a bit of a barrage of references in the last couple of episodes - Wesley Crusher, the Traveller(s), Assignment:Earth, Boreth Time Crystals... I found myself rolling my eyes as we reached the Orb of Time but when it really hits its marks with something like "Is there in beauty no truth?" it still has the magic. Still, on balance my favourite Star Trek ting of recent years by a long margin. I find myself untroubled by the thought that it probably won't get a third season. It's first was good enough, and felt complete enough, that I didn't mind if there was a second anyway. So anything I've got after that first season is a nice bonus. Karl |
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Aug 11, 2024 20:33:34 GMT
That's how the first and second seasons left me feeling too. I will miss the characters but they have told two interesting and fun stories. A triumph in television these days. |
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