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Post by Andy Turnbull on Dec 27, 2020 23:51:32 GMT
From a few chats recently, lets see what is the best regarded of the UK annuals.
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Post by The Doctor on Dec 28, 2020 10:08:01 GMT
1986: there is no comparison.
-Ralph
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Post by The Doctor on Dec 28, 2020 10:08:19 GMT
ILLEGAL POLL.
-Ralph
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Dec 28, 2020 10:17:18 GMT
Not a big fan of State Games, at least not the way it is illustrated, because it isn't roboty enough. It makes pre-transforming Cybertronian culture too much like human culture.
My favourites are 1985 and 1992.
Martin
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Dec 28, 2020 12:45:08 GMT
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Dec 28, 2020 12:46:16 GMT
Not a big fan of State Games, at least not the way it is illustrated, because it isn't roboty enough. It makes pre-transforming Cybertronian culture too much like human culture. My favourites are 1985 and 1992. Martin I don't really pay attention to the illustrations there, but I agree there would be no need for them all to be humanoid at this stage of the game. |
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Dec 28, 2020 13:19:56 GMT
Trying to visualise the non-humanoid modes and the combat scenes are morphing into Robot Wars! DAMMIT!
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Post by The Huff on Dec 28, 2020 13:24:15 GMT
1992 first - its full of reprints and uninteresting tat and has the worst cover.
But Another Time & Place is so amazing that this pushes it to the absolute top and beyond.
1988 second for the Headmasters text stories as well as Ark Duty - I wish there were more stories set before the Movie (as in the few years just before - I know there are plenty set before chronologically...)
3rd choice is the first one for its toy-centric art.
Best cover has to be 1991 though with Jazz & co.
Edit: Are the dates correct on these? I know they came out in a certain year but were always advertised as being the following years annual. I.e. the Headmasters one was out in good time for Christmas 1987 but was advertised to be the 1988 annual.
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Dec 28, 2020 13:31:36 GMT
I don't really pay attention to the illustrations there, but I agree there would be no need for them all to be humanoid at this stage of the game. All humanoid except for the two cats, which just draws attention to it even more. This is supposed to be an alien machine world with no knowledge of biological lifeforms, 4,000,000 BC, dammit! Martin |
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Dec 28, 2020 13:31:55 GMT
State Games narrowly edges out the Headmasters story for me, but yes that lead up to the Movie period was curiously neglected in the Marvel UK comic annuals afterwards. It's a nice bit of space to play with, especially the driving off of Cybertron. How did that come to pass?
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Dec 28, 2020 13:39:12 GMT
Apart from 'Another Time & Place', my favourite text stories are those in the first annual. I loved the Prowl/Bumblebee dynamic in 'Hunted', with Jumpstarters thrown in, and I really loved the concept of 'Missing in Action', in which Tracks gets badly damaged and stuck in car mode, and used as a bank robbery getaway vehicle. Marvel UK did it first, before 'Shooting Star', 'Plight of the Bumblebee' and 'Showdown' did variations on the same theme. It's a perfect TF plot.
The double-page spread of the Autobots on the Ark in the first annual was also always a winner.
The Headmasters text story is great judged in isolation, but two thirds of it is just describing events seen in the comics, which makes it score less well compared to genuinely original text stories.
Martin
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Dec 28, 2020 13:41:11 GMT
Oh, and the first annual features Roller.  *drops mic* Martin |
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Post by The Huff on Dec 28, 2020 14:24:27 GMT
The first annual also features Warpath - for the first time! This was a big deal for me back then, as he was one of the very first new characters in the fiction.
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Dec 28, 2020 14:24:44 GMT
Had to try and get some State Games designs down. First attempt  Much happier with the second attempt once I grabbed the trailer down from my shelf.  |
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Dec 28, 2020 14:38:51 GMT
Outstanding.
Edit: Why not give pre-humanoid Prime bigger grabbing claws than the little one he has in his trailer later on?
Martin
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Post by The Doctor on Dec 28, 2020 14:46:45 GMT
By definition, 'the best' can only mean 'one'. A choice of three invalidates that unless the question is: 'What are your favourite Annuals?', for example. -Ralph |
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Post by Pinwig on Dec 28, 2020 15:15:01 GMT
It's just a way to aggregate a fairer vote - the one with the most will be the best, currently the first annual.
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Dec 28, 2020 15:23:07 GMT
Outstanding. Edit: Why not give pre-humanoid Prime bigger grabbing claws than the little one he has in his trailer later on? Martin I don't think he needs it, plus I see Megatron having a bigger one. |
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Dec 28, 2020 15:23:41 GMT
MEGATRON!  |
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Dec 28, 2020 15:29:27 GMT
I don't think he needs it, plus I see Megatron having a bigger one. If I remember the story rightly, Prime does need to be able to catch Megatron when he falls off that expressway. Martin |
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Dec 28, 2020 15:43:28 GMT
His grabber arm can be telescopic!
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Dec 28, 2020 15:49:05 GMT
Sunstreaker  |
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Dec 28, 2020 15:59:59 GMT
I'm going to have to adapt this, aren't I?
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Post by The Doctor on Dec 28, 2020 16:22:21 GMT
You may recall pledging to do this previously!
-Ralph
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Dec 28, 2020 16:24:49 GMT
You may recall pledging to do this previously! -Ralph Yes, I dimly recall... Bugger |
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Dec 28, 2020 18:30:12 GMT
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Post by The Huff on Dec 28, 2020 19:55:26 GMT
Well, we already know what Ratchet and Ironhide would look like...
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Dec 31, 2020 0:10:31 GMT
I'd be inclined to make them slightly different, but it wouldn't be too big a departure from their Diaclone bods.
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Post by The Doctor on Jul 8, 2021 22:05:26 GMT
How is that going?
-Ralph
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Jul 10, 2021 9:23:29 GMT
It's not.
Back burner just now - awaiting edits on The Runner and in the middle of some TFN/Big Broadcast stuff the now)
Also not sure what format I want to do it in, possibly either a daily/Sunday style adventure strip format as I think that would work well and let me keep a chunk of narration to boot.
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