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Post by Stomski on Feb 26, 2021 15:24:52 GMT
Somehow this slipped under my radar. Episode 1 very different in feel to the rest of The CW Arrowverse shows. If it wasn't the same actors playing Lois and Clark as from Supergirl, I wouldn't even think it was related. Very serious in tone, visuals/audio, plot points in first episode instant downer, darker shot. Possible this is just to set up the main series plot arc so will likely not be quite so bleak moving on... maybe. {Spoiler}Right, so the ending has Doom Guy revealed to be Captain Luthor, but can't be Lex as it's not Jon Cryer. Curious. |
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Post by Toph on Feb 26, 2021 17:33:17 GMT
Yeah. While I didn't dislike it, it felt way too much like Snyder's bleak MoS that yells "this is inspirational and hopeful!" instead of actually being that. Far too little of Tyler Hoechlin's nearly dead on portrayal of Clark/Superman made it through. I'm guessing Captain Luthor is from the future.
But I'm also not sure this is on Earth Prime. Lois and Clark have twins, which I don't think happened in either the comics, or Arrowverse. Also no mention of Kara being available to help take some of the burden off Superman. And I'd have thought Melissa at least have a walk on cameo at the funeral. I can't see Kara not showing support to Clark when his mom died. |
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Post by Stomski on Feb 26, 2021 22:37:31 GMT
It's now set up for the 'good' kid to rebel... Becomes jealous of his brother who now has a relationship with their Dad, loses his place on the team/life as they move to Smallville yada yada teen angst stuff. |
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Post by Toph on Mar 3, 2021 2:16:06 GMT
I get it! Captain Luthor is a survivor of the Crisis! (Batwoman season one spoiler) Just like the second Beth Kane! He keeps talking about how Superman destroyed his world. I was stuck on alien world! But he probably means parallel world! |
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Post by Toph on Mar 3, 2021 3:10:38 GMT
Episode 2 Seems I was right |
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Dec 17, 2021 20:41:02 GMT
Watched the pilot.
That's the stuff.
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Post by Bogatan on Dec 18, 2021 8:27:48 GMT
Bit confused showing weekly on BBC1 but the whole series seems to be available online/SkyQ. Watched episode 2 and it autoplayed 3 and then started on to 4.
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Post by The Doctor on Dec 18, 2021 9:26:41 GMT
It's all on Iplayer as well.
-Ralph
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Post by Toph on Dec 18, 2021 9:30:11 GMT
Season 2 starts in a couple weeks.
Not sure I'm going to bother.
This was the first Arrowverse series that I almost dropped. It never got any less boring to me. It felt like a chore making it to the end.
Which hurts, because I absolutely love Tyler and Bitsy as Clark and Lois. They're perfect casting.
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Post by Stomski on Dec 18, 2021 10:27:58 GMT
BBC did it with The Outlaws too. Very odd.
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Post by Pinwig on Dec 18, 2021 13:18:07 GMT
They do it with a fair few series now, although I thought Outlaws only released as they were aired as I was going to watch it but saw it wasn't complete on iPlayer. I think they're just trying to appeal to different audiences.
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Post by Stomski on Dec 18, 2021 23:18:51 GMT
Oh yeah, Outlaws they released the next week's episode on iPlayer. I guess it creates more of a water cooler anti spoiler urgency to watch with these approaches.
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Post by Shockprowl on Nov 17, 2022 20:08:20 GMT
Just finished series one (on iPlayer).
Absolutely superb.
I initially felt there was too much 'teen' stuff going on. But I quickly realised that that's the point; Superman has never seemed so real.
The cast are excellent.
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Post by Pinwig on Nov 17, 2022 20:22:48 GMT
That's where I am with it. Enjoyed Season one, season two to follow when time permits.
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Post by Stomski on May 24, 2024 6:17:34 GMT
So finally watched S01 and S02. As much as I love the setting and casting, in both seasons they kinda miss the point. Superman is at its best when it's a collaboration by Superman and Lois to investigate a plot of some kind. Not just Superman Vs yet another person with powers. And it then starts falling into the trap that The Flash series did of making more and more of the supporting characters able to back Superman up when he's down. When everyone is special, no one is. I did enjoy the start of S02, especially the little misdirect by the writers and the eventual reveal/early season enemy, but they soon after dropped the ball... Reverting yet again to it's another universe, mirror as opposed to strict multiverse, but please writers stop with this lazyness.
And what is the assumption that once everyone is merged with their mirror self they become bad? Would Jonathan X nahtanoJ really have been evil? A few episodes into S03, hopefully on a better path. Will go back to Lois&Clark after this, see how it holds up. |
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Post by Pinwig on May 24, 2024 20:41:12 GMT
Despite the above post I think we got four episodes into season two then, well. No further. I don't think it's bad, it's just there were more interesting things to watch.
I'm frightened to watch Lois and Clark now incase it's crap. Back then in the 90s I thought it was amazing.
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Post by The Doctor on May 27, 2024 22:04:24 GMT
Sorry, chum. It was always crap, even back in the day.
-Ralph
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Post by Andy Turnbull on May 27, 2024 22:05:17 GMT
Sorry, chum. It was always crap, even back in the day. -Ralph Absolute pish. Season 1 is grand, John O'Shea is a fantastic Luthor, and cool Jimmy Olsen is ace. Later seasons, less so. |
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Post by The Doctor on May 27, 2024 22:06:50 GMT
I only watched it for Lois, but it was part of the lost decade of BBC1 showing absolute crap on Saturday evenings instead of Doctor Who!
-Ralph
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Post by Fortmax2020 on May 27, 2024 22:25:04 GMT
I sense there might be some bias in your views.
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Post by The Doctor on May 28, 2024 7:53:04 GMT
Yes and no. There was mostly shite in that time slot though.
-Ralph
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Post by Stomski on May 28, 2024 7:57:21 GMT
I don't get who Superman and Lois is aimed at. It's too serious/dark for family entertainment, too much teen drama for people who want a serious show. Hnnngh. And Steel's suit being a rip of of MCU Iron Man except with a female voice irks me no end. I didn't like in helmet shots of character faces then, and I don't like it now. Really shows how good Pedro Pascal is when he could emote so strongly in Mandolorian with just voice and mannerisms. The only thing Lois and Clark suffered from was Dean Cain not being able to act in a way that expressed his feelings for Lois without seeming constipated. |
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Post by Pinwig on May 28, 2024 8:46:08 GMT
Sorry, chum. It was always crap, even back in the day. -Ralph No way! It was top US 45 minute genre TV. Obviously it had to contend with being made in the 90s, but it was a fun show. It was only really the fourth series where it ran out of steam. |
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Post by Stomski on May 29, 2024 9:43:58 GMT
Coming to the end of Season 3. It's a good series this one, but definitely not light entertainment. The real life issues that are covered are more for that 9pm doom and gloom drama slot and not to be taken lightly. Change in casting and some characterisation (Kyle, Sarah) a bit off. Change in writers perhaps? But... Lex Luthor set up for S04 villain, and are they really setting up World Without a Superman? We have Superboy, Steel and Eradicator ready to go. Heck, even Hank Henshaw in Supergirl, although I'm not sure bringing him over would work, you'd need Hoechlin to play Cyborg Supes really. |
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Post by Toph on May 29, 2024 11:24:51 GMT
As far as I'm aware, there is no season four. S3 only happened because it was too far along in production when CW killed all DC content.
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Post by Pinwig on May 29, 2024 11:49:07 GMT
There is. It's shot and finished, due to air in the autumn.
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