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Post by Philip Ayres on Jan 1, 2022 0:15:18 GMT
Happy New Year All!
A Two Day Week 0!
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jan 1, 2022 9:50:14 GMT
Morning All!
Happy New Year (it's also Saturday)
Yesterday: Nice and quiet, spent NY eve in with Liz watching Bond.
Very vivid dream overnight of an old friend I've not seen for years, must get in touch .... Decent lie in this morning.
Today: Quiet. Zoom Mum maybe? TMUK Zoom tonight, DW at 7pm
Pray Day goes OK, Sinuses, CMT and Head cope OK. Pray we stay protected from the virus.
Have a good day, stay safe & well.
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Post by The Doctor on Jan 1, 2022 11:08:52 GMT
This is week 53!!!
-Ralph
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Post by Shockprowl on Jan 1, 2022 11:43:11 GMT
Ahhh I love the Battle Eternal between Doc' and Big Phil.
It is the stuff of Legend and Dreams.
HAPPY NEW YEAR CYBER-CHUMS!!!!!
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jan 1, 2022 12:10:47 GMT
No it isn't. It can't be 2021 Week 53 because it's the same week as 2021 Week 52 It is no longer 2021 so it can't have that in the title It can't be 2022 Week 1 because it doesn't have the first Thursday of 2022 in it Next week is 2022 Week 1 because it does have the first Thursday of 2022 in it Therefore the little stub of a week which constitutes this weekend is 2022 Week 0 Martin agrees with me |
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Post by Pinwig on Jan 1, 2022 12:54:26 GMT
Gosh how many times have we done this now... I looked up the rules years ago!
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jan 1, 2022 13:11:47 GMT
And since then we have stuck firmly to the rules.... unless you're Ralph!
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Post by Benn on Jan 1, 2022 13:27:19 GMT
Remind me why it's a Thursday that's the important point again?
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jan 1, 2022 13:33:47 GMT
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Post by Benn on Jan 1, 2022 13:46:44 GMT
Ah, okay. That makes sense.
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Jan 1, 2022 13:48:25 GMT
Do I? I can't remember. So we're in a week that consists entirely of weekend? Martin |
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Post by Pinwig on Jan 1, 2022 13:49:10 GMT
It's because it's the midpoint of the ISO standard week - Mon-Wed before, Fri-Sun after. So wherever Thursday falls gives the majority of the week to that bit. Although going by the rules we dug out, I think currently we're still in week 52 because Jan 1st is a Saturday. Week 0 is used by computer languages that can't cope with the madness. But I'm really really not going back into all that again. Week 0 is fine! en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_week_dateFirst weekThe ISO 8601 definition for week 01 is the week with the first Thursday of the Gregorian year (i.e. of January) in it. The following definitions based on properties of this week are mutually equivalent, since the ISO week starts with Monday: - It is the first week with a majority (4 or more) of its days in January.
- Its first day is the Monday nearest to 1 January.
- It has 4 January in it. Hence the earliest possible first week extends from Monday 29 December (previous Gregorian year) to Sunday 4 January, the latest possible first week extends from Monday 4 January to Sunday 10 January.
- It has the year's first working day in it, if Saturdays, Sundays and 1 January are not working days.
If 1 January is on a Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday or Thursday, it is in W01. If it is on a Friday, it is part of W53 of the previous year. If it is on a Saturday, it is part of the last week of the previous year which is numbered W52 in a common year and W53 in a leap year. If it is on a Sunday, it is part of W52 of the previous year.
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Post by Benn on Jan 1, 2022 14:00:52 GMT
Do I? I can't remember. So we're in a week that consists entirely of weekend? Martin Could do with a few more of those, tbh |
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jan 1, 2022 14:36:38 GMT
Do I? I can't remember. So we're in a week that consists entirely of weekend? Martin Yes, last night on the call just after midnight "well done for sorting the week out Phil" |
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Post by The Doctor on Jan 1, 2022 14:51:45 GMT
We don't have year zero, we have week 53!!!
-Ralph
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Post by The Doctor on Jan 1, 2022 14:52:28 GMT
No, Phil. The first week is what the diaries say! -Ralph |
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Post by The Doctor on Jan 1, 2022 14:53:52 GMT
It's because it's the midpoint of the ISO standard week - Mon-Wed before, Fri-Sun after. So wherever Thursday falls gives the majority of the week to that bit. Although going by the rules we dug out, I think currently we're still in week 52 because Jan 1st is a Saturday. Week 0 is used by computer languages that can't cope with the madness. But I'm really really not going back into all that again. Week 0 is fine! en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_week_dateFirst weekThe ISO 8601 definition for week 01 is the week with the first Thursday of the Gregorian year (i.e. of January) in it. The following definitions based on properties of this week are mutually equivalent, since the ISO week starts with Monday: - It is the first week with a majority (4 or more) of its days in January.
- Its first day is the Monday nearest to 1 January.
- It has 4 January in it. Hence the earliest possible first week extends from Monday 29 December (previous Gregorian year) to Sunday 4 January, the latest possible first week extends from Monday 4 January to Sunday 10 January.
- It has the year's first working day in it, if Saturdays, Sundays and 1 January are not working days.
If 1 January is on a Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday or Thursday, it is in W01. If it is on a Friday, it is part of W53 of the previous year. If it is on a Saturday, it is part of the last week of the previous year which is numbered W52 in a common year and W53 in a leap year. If it is on a Sunday, it is part of W52 of the previous year.
That is fucking madness. -Ralph |
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Jan 1, 2022 14:55:13 GMT
"well done for sorting the week out Phil" Oh right, I thought you were referring to previous years' debates when you said I agreed with you. I was just saying well done for getting in there promptly after midnight, knowing you'd want to change something. I wasn't thinking about _what_ you were changing. To be honest I don't really care as long as we agree this is now the second year of the decade and the 22nd year of the 21st Century. Martin |
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Post by The Doctor on Jan 1, 2022 14:57:19 GMT
Of course it is.
-Ralph
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Post by Pinwig on Jan 1, 2022 15:01:50 GMT
The only one of those statements you need is the last one really. The first three have to be true if you follow the last one. |
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jan 2, 2022 8:20:46 GMT
Morning All!
It's Sunday - Praise the Lord!
Yesterday: Quiet, lie in, not too busy for me, nice zoom with TMUK boys in the evening, really good DW
Bad night, pain when I got in bed, then got frustrated then was awake till gone 3. Set alarm for later but not good this morning.
Today: Church this morning, going in.
Pray Day goes OK, Sinuses, CMT and Head cope OK. Pray body copes with noyt enough sleep and I get off earlier tonight. Pray we stay protected from the virus.
Have a good day, stay safe & well.
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Jan 2, 2022 17:39:35 GMT
Went to Asda grabbed several storage tubs some to replace damaged ones and a few additional ones, all mostly full, but the room is looking tidier.
May need one or two more...
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jan 2, 2022 18:24:04 GMT
We don't have year zero, we have week 53!!! -Ralph *TECHNICALLY* It's still week 52 Also: although the week which starts at midnight is the one after 2021 Week 52 it very definitely is 2022 Week 1 and NOT 2021 Week 53. And 2022 Week 21 is not a 2021 week under any circumstances much to my regret. |
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Post by Pinwig on Jan 2, 2022 18:56:36 GMT
I must make a resolution that this year I start taking revenge for this prolonged bullying.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jan 2, 2022 19:35:34 GMT
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Post by Pinwig on Jan 2, 2022 19:46:56 GMT
Don't give me that look of feigned innocence!
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Post by The Doctor on Jan 2, 2022 19:57:49 GMT
Adds up to 63, not 73.
-Ralph
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Post by Pinwig on Jan 2, 2022 20:06:27 GMT
Is that right. I believe we've explored The Doctor's maths education on here a few times before.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jan 2, 2022 20:14:22 GMT
Indeed we have. If only you'd been teaching him!
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