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Post by Nigel on Jul 14, 2022 21:08:46 GMT
This was the most I've enjoyed a Marvel film since Endgame. Lots of humour, a bunch of cool stuff, a rock soundtrack and something I've wanted to see in the MCU for years.
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Sept 9, 2022 19:09:06 GMT
Looks like they were originally going in a very different direction with Zeus.
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Post by The Huff on Sept 10, 2022 13:59:50 GMT
I much prefer this version. Much more sincere and grounded than what we got.
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Post by The Doctor on Sept 10, 2022 22:22:05 GMT
I wanted to like the film, but it felt like a disjointed mess. Ho hum!
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Post by Rich on Sept 10, 2022 23:32:26 GMT
Watched it tonight. First half was bad; it had the odd funny bit but it lacked humanity. Second half was much better.
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Post by Stomski on Sept 11, 2022 21:52:40 GMT
Watched it tonight. First half was bad; it had the odd funny bit but it lacked humanity. Second half was much better. Got 43 minutes in, was thinking it probably gets better because so far it's been the worst thing I've seen in a while. But I was thinking perhaps now they're actually getting to a plot it might get better,but still had to turn it off. Will give the second act a go afterall. But that first act, dear lord. This is the culmination of everything I've disliked about the MCU. |
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Post by Pinwig on Sept 11, 2022 21:59:01 GMT
I wanted to like the film, but it felt like a disjointed mess. Ho hum! -Ralph Disjointed was exactly what I was thinking while watching. The narrative is simple enough, but the tone jumps around and there was disproportionate emphasis on some scenes that were peripheral to the plot. Ragnarok just did it all better. Natalie Portman looked fantastic as Thor though. I just don't think her story, or the comics it came from, really fit the bombast and humour the Hemsworth Thor is now loved for. It was just a big jumble. Enjoyable, but hollow. |
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Post by Bogatan on Sept 11, 2022 23:24:10 GMT
It feels like there are two movies crammed together but actually there isnt. Its just so disjointed it seems that way. And I say that as someone who really enjoyed it.
But maybe it should have been. Do a Portman film while Thor has disappeared with the Guardians, have him return looking all chiselled in the credits only to find hes been replaced. Thor 5 would still probably end up pretty much Love and Thunder for good and bad, but having Janes Thor as an established character by that point might have helped.
That we'd likely get a lot more Darcy is only part of the reason I'm saying this.
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Sept 15, 2022 20:21:05 GMT
The Goats were the best thing in it.
Third best Thor film, lagging behind Ragnarok and the first film, definitely felt like a writer/director being indulged a bit too much.
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Sept 15, 2022 20:29:03 GMT
It's an extremely polarising film. It's grown on me, mostly. The only part of the film that hasn't grown on me is Omnipotence City. It just makes no sense. What are Celestials and the dragon from Shang-Chi doing listening to Zeus plan an orgy??? Most of the rest of it is fine, and I laughed at most of the gags. My favourite parts are Thor giving the children the power to defeat the shadow monsters; the final scene where Thor adopts Chris Hemsworth's real-life daughter as a sidekick ("Go to hell, demon!"); and anything said by Korg. Martin |
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Sept 15, 2022 20:50:54 GMT
definitely felt like a writer/director being indulged a bit too much. Taika Waititi directed 'Team Thor' and 'Team Thor: Part 2', which turned MCU Thor into the comedy character he has been ever since. Nobody should act surprised when his movie is a feature-length continuation of that. Having suffered through 'Thor: The Dark World' and a whole bunch of awful DC movies where they kept their most godlike hero serious, I'm basically fine with Thor being silly. Martin |
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Post by Pinwig on Sept 15, 2022 21:18:39 GMT
Yes but that worked in Ragnarok. Less so here because it was overplayed and switched off and on too much.
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Post by blueshift on Sept 16, 2022 6:03:33 GMT
I really enjoyed it, 100% up my alley
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Post by The Doctor on Sept 16, 2022 8:46:13 GMT
I never needed to know what you have up your alley.
-Ralph
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Post by Stomski on Sept 16, 2022 10:30:03 GMT
So I've seen some commentary that the film is a retelling of the events from the point of view of Korg. Given his naive, innocent view of the world around him the characters being characatures of what you expect almost starts to make sense... Almost.
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Sept 18, 2022 18:59:23 GMT
So 'Thor: Love and Thunder' has made me revisit 'Team Thor'.
It's weird, at the time they were released I took them to be spoofs, as they were so different in tone to the first two Thor films. But Thor in the latest movie matches exactly the Thor of these episodes, and they don't seem like spoofs any more!
Thor's exchange with Dr Strange about ravens and phones and 'electronic letters' in 'Ragnarok' was a nod to 'Team Thor', and now in 'Love and Thunder' we've got a 'Nick Furry' joke and Darryl as a named and speaking character - now a tour guide, but could have been Thor's flatmate after he broke up with Jane.
If it weren't for Bruce Banner's problematic appearance, I'd say these were in continuity now.
Mjolnir even sleeps in its own little bed now!
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Post by Jim on Sept 26, 2022 8:10:38 GMT
I watched Love and Thunder with my daughter at the weekend, and she laughed so much that I can't say to what extent I would have enjoyed it watching alone, her enthusiasm was so infectious!
She loved Korg and the screaming goats especially (aside from the fact she hugely appreciates strong women in leading roles).
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Sept 26, 2022 10:57:57 GMT
The screaming goats were the best thing in it. Genuinely ending myself with laugher everytime they appeared and screamed.
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Post by Stomski on Sept 26, 2022 20:42:56 GMT
Was Jane really a leading role though? In fact, part of the problem with this film's focus is that no one feels like an actual protagonist.
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Post by Jim on Sept 26, 2022 22:26:23 GMT
I feel like if I were to step back and think about it, or indeed ever watch it again, the whole film would unravel into a self-indulgent poorly structured heap. So instead of doing that, I’ll think about the screaming goats instead!
Jane Foster’s and Valkyrie’s roles were at least sufficient to make a 12yo girl happy, so I’ll go with that too
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Post by Bogatan on Sept 26, 2022 23:10:29 GMT
I just rewatched it for the first time since cinema. Turns out I had missed the first 13 minutes so seeing that helped rather a lot.
I still really enjoyed it, its a good film. But it does manage to be some what less than the sum of its parts. Portmans fantastic, Crowe is hamming it up to TLK Hopkin levels and Bale being so intense with his real accent is .... unique. Throw is Thor, Korg and Valkyrie plus Sif and Darcy returning. And the Goats, the Goats. The plot is not the strongest, but not actually bad and the script makes the most of it.
Theres no bad elements and yet it doesnt quite come together the way Ragnorak did.
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