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Post by Benn on Mar 29, 2024 12:22:33 GMT
I'm contemplating doing a Thing for university that involves making a sketchcard for every G1 Transformer toy released in the UK. I've got a Google sheets list of what I think should be on there, but I was wondering if there's already a complete list already in existence. I made mine using the wiki, which is not the best resource I can find (it conflates the UK and Europe a fair bit, which isn't helpful).
Failing that, if anyone wants the link to my list to see if they can spot anything, let me know and I'll drop it in here.
Contemporary art meets Transformers, eh? It's not all broken chairs. (joke for all of the maybe four people who were at the minicon might get)
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Post by Philip Ayres on Mar 29, 2024 12:41:41 GMT
Put the list up!
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Post by Benn on Mar 29, 2024 13:46:36 GMT
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Post by Benn on Mar 31, 2024 10:26:30 GMT
Oh, I should mention I aim to get started on this a week on Monday. Please let me know about any glaring omissions by then!
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Post by blueshift on Mar 31, 2024 10:37:41 GMT
Link is locked though you can request access
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Post by Benn on Mar 31, 2024 10:40:04 GMT
Google, eh?
it should be open now, but folks might have to ask for editing privilege still.
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Post by blueshift on Mar 31, 2024 10:41:47 GMT
Looks right to me though it is more of a Phil question. I wouldn't have scamper separate as then you open a rabbit hole with all the other pack in figures
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Post by Benn on Mar 31, 2024 11:02:44 GMT
I'm already in a bit of a quandry with the -masters as to whether include them or not. My thinking is to include all those that formed full robots primarily, and then go back for combined modes/Nebulons/Action Master Partners or whoever if there's time or space at the end. (Devastator being a unique case in that, if I read this right, we didn't get the Constructicons at all, but did get Action Master Devastator)
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Post by blueshift on Mar 31, 2024 13:31:20 GMT
I guess as it's a uni project, which way round best suits whatever story you are trying to tell
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Post by Benn on Mar 31, 2024 14:07:01 GMT
No story, it's just... I guess because I'm playing on the twin ideas of nostalgia and hyperfixation, I want to be accurate as to which characters were actually, officially available.
Then I need to decide whether it's the toy faces or comic faces that I go with, which is a whole other headache! Everyone knows Transformers as a toy brand, but personally, the comics are the reason I'm still here now, so what's better? Keeping it personal, or making it more universal? Or a mix of both?
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Post by Rich on Mar 31, 2024 15:33:09 GMT
The interplay between exactness and nostalgia is really interesting conceptually. Do you need to communicate that through the art alone or through some kind of supplementary materials?
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Post by Benn on Mar 31, 2024 15:53:07 GMT
Hopefully the work will stand on it's own, at least for the purposes of critique.
Any supplemental materials will be for assessment anyway, and I guess if I take this through to exhibition, then I'll decide how much to put out for the audience.
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Post by Rich on Mar 31, 2024 16:21:31 GMT
I guess as long as you don't lose sight of your core ideas you'll not go far wrong.
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Post by Bogatan on Mar 31, 2024 17:06:06 GMT
I'm already in a bit of a quandry with the -masters as to whether include them or not. My thinking is to include all those that formed full robots primarily, and then go back for combined modes/Nebulons/Action Master Partners or whoever if there's time or space at the end. (Devastator being a unique case in that, if I read this right, we didn't get the Constructicons at all, but did get Action Master Devastator) Depends on your views of Woolworths stock of the 1990 Chinese reissues. Technically they were probably grey imports, but woolies in 1990 made them more redily available than plenty of official UK transformers releases since then. |
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Post by Benn on Mar 31, 2024 17:11:14 GMT
Yeah, I'm trying to avoid the grey imports, it just muddles things up.
Like, I know it's outside the scope of this project, but I've just found out that the G2 Minibots weren't available over here until Poundland got a load of them in in '97. I was convinced they were legit!
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Post by Philip Ayres on Mar 31, 2024 18:46:49 GMT
Yeah, I'm trying to avoid the grey imports, it just muddles things up. IIRC The Chinese Constructicons had Hasbro import labels. Like, I know it's outside the scope of this project, but I've just found out that the G2 Minibots weren't available over here until Poundland got a load of them in in '97. I was convinced they were legit! G2 Minibots were also available through Woolworths c 1994 alongside the Aerialbots. All on US cards |
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Post by Philip Ayres on Mar 31, 2024 18:55:54 GMT
Bumper, Trypticon, Punch/Counterpunch & Sky Lynx never came out in the UK
Constructicons didn't come out here in 85 (or 86 as listed) see above
A few others have the wrong year
1992 is missing the Rescue Force four
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Post by Benn on Mar 31, 2024 19:11:28 GMT
Thanks, Phil. Do the Rescue Force Four have individual names?
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Post by Philip Ayres on Mar 31, 2024 19:45:22 GMT
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Post by Benn on Mar 31, 2024 19:50:40 GMT
Ha ha!
Oh dear. Into the list they go then!
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Post by Bogatan on Mar 31, 2024 22:56:01 GMT
Bumper, Trypticon, Punch/Counterpunch & Sky Lynx never came out in the UK Constructicons didn't come out here in 85 (or 86 as listed) see above A few others have the wrong year 1992 is missing the Rescue Force four Is Bumper confirmed as never coming out here? |
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Post by Philip Ayres on Mar 31, 2024 23:08:09 GMT
Nobody has ever produced solid evidence he did. I have no memory of seeing him and the first I knew of his existence was reading US toy mags in the 90s.
Red BB and Yellow Cliffjumper definitely did and thank you for reminding me of something that had slipped my mind in the business of today .....
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Post by Benn on Apr 1, 2024 9:17:34 GMT
I'm sure I'd seen a Bumper back in the day, but given that the amount of grey imports that came into the house I wouldn't say for certain that even if it did, it was officially official.
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Post by Bogatan on Apr 1, 2024 23:10:05 GMT
Nobody has ever produced solid evidence he did. I have no memory of seeing him and the first I knew of his existence was reading US toy mags in the 90s. Red BB and Yellow Cliffjumper definitely did and thank you for reminding me of something that had slipped my mind in the business of today ..... I assumed he had, but thats really only based on me getting on ebay from someone in the UK who for whatever reason I think of as not being a collector (the difference in the way things are listed by a fan and someone clearing out their childhood junk I guess) |
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Post by Bogatan on Apr 1, 2024 23:15:12 GMT
Hmmm. Just found the email confirmation for that auction and the seller did call it Bumper so forget that, he probably was a fan.
Only cost £40.02, though that felt like a lot more in 2008.
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