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Post by shaggydave76 on Jun 16, 2024 20:58:22 GMT
I've just thought of something that is glaringly obvious, but I don't recall ever being discussed anywhere before. . .
The Autobot Matrix of Leadership is passed on from one 'Prime' to another.
Before the '86 Movie, nobody knew who, or even if at all, Optimus would eventually pass down the Matrix to.
Hell, we didn't even know Prime was going to bite it!
So, something I don;t recall ever being mentioned before is, does EVERY Autobot have a Matrix Chamber and the potential to become a Prime, or is it that Hot Rod and Magnus conveniently just happened to have one, because 'Plotline'?
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Jun 16, 2024 21:01:33 GMT
Never concretely explained in the show, but given that Rodimus when he thought he was about to die and Magnus was gone said Springer should get the Matrix then I suspect all the Autobots can house the Matrix. Scourge was able to take into himself as well, although he did go a little lumpy!
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Jun 16, 2024 22:18:20 GMT
With a race of shape changing robots it could just be that of they are about to have it passed to them they can reconfigure their internals to make a space for it on demand.
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Jun 17, 2024 5:55:00 GMT
What about Micromasters?
Martin
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Jun 17, 2024 6:41:35 GMT
They will look overweight.
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Post by primenova on Jun 17, 2024 17:03:04 GMT
Why didnt Magnus become Ultra Prime? The matrix makes the body alter when gets in range. ie Space pirates Goes back to Hotrod when out of range so no chamber but Simon never showed this
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jun 17, 2024 17:08:32 GMT
Because the matrix only powers up the anointed one which Magnus wasn't
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Jun 17, 2024 17:40:13 GMT
Or rather, it upgrades those it chooses too...
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Post by that_bluestreak on Jun 17, 2024 17:48:54 GMT
What about Micromasters? Martin Maybe Xaaron never considered that a Micromaster could be a Prime. Some form of Transformer racism I guess. |
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Post by Pinwig on Jun 17, 2024 21:15:23 GMT
Big Daddy Prime.
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Post by The Doctor on Jun 17, 2024 21:27:22 GMT
Micromasters didn't exist in Sunbow Continuity. I wonder how that could have went if the show had went to a 5th season.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jun 17, 2024 21:43:48 GMT
There's advert animation with them in surely that counts?
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Jun 17, 2024 21:48:55 GMT
No.
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Post by The Doctor on Jun 18, 2024 7:54:43 GMT
There's advert animation with them in surely that counts? No, they are toy adverts, not episodes of the show. -Ralph |
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Post by The Huff on Jun 18, 2024 13:45:35 GMT
What about Micromasters? Martin Obviously, if they were the chosen one (which only Hot Rod is) they would open the Matrix and grow into a new bigger body and job done. Saying that, I'd have loved Rodimus to be on his deathbed in a series 5 and pass the Matrix onto a Micromaster, who would ask "Why me? I am not worthy!" Only for Rodimus to respond with "I know, but it will be hilarious!" |
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Post by primenova on Jun 18, 2024 18:06:22 GMT
But with Magnus having a matrix chamber already, could just be the writer just knowing that his toy had white Prime so they just decide he had same build
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Post by pulsar on Jun 19, 2024 5:01:57 GMT
For micromasters who aren’t the chosen one, couldn’t the matrix just change size? If a comparative nonentity like Frenzy can do it, shrinking shouldn’t be much of a barrier to the Matrix itself, especially if we see it more as a computer program / sacred life force than a physical object.
In fact, don’t micromasters themselves expand when they change into normal-sized vehicles? They could store the Matrix in the same place as all the excess bits of car, plane, etc.
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Jun 19, 2024 16:16:55 GMT
For micromasters who aren’t the chosen one, couldn’t the matrix just change size? Maybe the live-action Transformers movie has the right idea about something. Martin |
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jun 19, 2024 17:19:00 GMT
Maybe the live-action Transformers movie has the right idea about something. Wash your mouth out! |
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Jun 19, 2024 21:53:47 GMT
Martin, stop lubricating Phil!!
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Post by primenova on Jun 20, 2024 16:45:58 GMT
The movies dont do size shifting, bay said he would never do that. we just think it goes small
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Post by Shockprowl on Jun 20, 2024 18:04:25 GMT
All these Matrix questions, it's almost as though it wasn't really thought about beyond the writing that necessary for a gaudy, insubstantial movie birthed only to sell toys.
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Jun 20, 2024 20:29:04 GMT
The Movie is reality. Sorry, Shockprowl.
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Post by Pinwig on Jun 20, 2024 20:45:49 GMT
Martin, stop lubricating Phil!! t-shirt! |
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Post by The Doctor on Jun 20, 2024 20:54:23 GMT
I did not have 'golden shower for Phil' on my bingo card for 2024.
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Post by Shockprowl on Jun 20, 2024 22:14:26 GMT
The Movie is reality. Sorry, Shockprowl. Fool. |
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Post by Benn on Jun 21, 2024 7:18:50 GMT
All these Matrix questions, it's almost as though it wasn't really thought about beyond the writing that necessary for a gaudy, insubstantial movie birthed only to sell toys. Hate to point this out old chap, but all of the cartoon was "birthed only to sell toys." |
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Post by primenova on Jun 21, 2024 20:07:04 GMT
What about the comic. But if you look at the movie - how many of the characters didnt have toys. Are a few
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Post by Shockprowl on Jun 21, 2024 21:21:05 GMT
All these Matrix questions, it's almost as though it wasn't really thought about beyond the writing that necessary for a gaudy, insubstantial movie birthed only to sell toys. Hate to point this out old chap, but all of the cartoon was "birthed only to sell toys." Yeah but in '84 it was good... |
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