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Post by Bogatan on Jul 28, 2024 18:53:28 GMT
Think its about time for its own thread as they start filming next month.
I know this is actually the Disco replacement, but its the new show being made as Lower Decks ends and I dont think I can entirely forgive it for that.
However if I do, I suspect this weekends casting announcements will play a HUGE role in it.
Tigs back! (the fact I know Tig Notaros name but still have to remind myself of the characters name, despite being my favourite charcter on the show pretty much sums up my Disco experience)
The EMH is back!
Vance is guest starring!
That casting news plus Newsome still apparently being involved on the writing side give me some hope, but Im not a fan of the Academy idea, every time its come up over the last 30 years its sounded bad.
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Post by legios on Jul 28, 2024 19:13:18 GMT
I have to say I'm not super-enthused by the return of Robert Picardo's character to be honest. We've already got the show inheriting a couple of characters from Discovery, and now we've got another character from a previous show. It kind of feels to me like there is the potential there for the established characters to inhibit the show from establishing its own identity. Much like my feelings when I saw Picardo listed in the regular cast for Prodigy S2 really.
But then, I'm not entirely convinced about the idea of a show about officer training anyway. Star Trek and its spinoffs have previously used the paradigm of either a naval frigate plying the oceans and encountering weird natural phenomena, ships or agents of enemy nations, uncontacted islands etc, or being an outpost on the frontier where problems can arrive on your doorstep.
By contrast, every time an Academy series gets proposed I feel like I can't see a wide range of stories coming from what is basically "the characters are officer cadets at Anapolis". I'm not sure where you go with that other than Military Soap Opera... and, yeah... not really what I watch Star Trek spin-offs for.
Ah well. It'll probably be on Paramount+ anyway, so it is a mostly moot point. :-)
Karl
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Post by Bogatan on Jul 28, 2024 20:04:05 GMT
I see the Doctor as a test for the show. Either this is a 1000 year old version of him or the backup one from Living Witness who himself would have been active for probably a full century at least by this point. Or its a completely new version of the EMH.
Either way if the writing on the show is generally good it should be able to take advantage of those points and make something interesting of them.
As for the rest I just checked Jetts been in 18 episodes, usually without much to do. In comparison O'Brien had been in 50 something episodes, so Im totally happy for a direct continuation of that character. With Vance and Tilly only guest starring that leaves plenty of room for a new cast.
But yeah I still wonder how they make the concept work.
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Post by The Doctor on Jul 28, 2024 20:25:22 GMT
I've never been a fan of the Acaedmy idea whenever it has been proposed but the setting picked makes sense to me. Space school during a time when Starfleet and the Federation is stable would be dull. Setting it in post-burn 32nd century is much more interesting. Starfleet needs to scale up fast within a universe where the are rebuilding. A space school show could approach this from an interesting angle.
They had me as soon as Holly Hunter was announced as the lead.
And more Admiral Vance pleases me.
-Ralph
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Post by Toph on Jul 29, 2024 4:13:25 GMT
Honestly, if done right, I kinda feel like this could be the best way to worldbuild the 32nd century.
And with some of these ships that have been hinted at, who's to say that the Academy is a stationary place?
Maybe the Academy is based in that rainforest starship, zipping around the galaxy, searching for new recruits!
...Okay I admit it, I just wanna see that damn rainforest starship.
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Jul 29, 2024 6:19:03 GMT
I'm not enthused at the premise of this but would like to be pleasantly surprised.
I've always found the idea of new recruits/students/yoof miraculously having amazing adventures and saving the galaxy a bit duff and unbelievable. Maybe as a one off episode, fine, bus a whole series? Many seasons?
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Post by Bogatan on Jul 30, 2024 19:09:13 GMT
Honestly, if done right, I kinda feel like this could be the best way to worldbuild the 32nd century. And with some of these ships that have been hinted at, who's to say that the Academy is a stationary place? Maybe the Academy is based in that rainforest starship, zipping around the galaxy, searching for new recruits! ...Okay I admit it, I just wanna see that damn rainforest starship. Right there with you, but yeah given the state of the Federation at that moment in time theres room to do something different. Will they though? I have a bad feeling theres going to be a large element of on location filming around Starfleet Academy to keep costs down. I'm not enthused at the premise of this but would like to be pleasantly surprised. I've always found the idea of new recruits/students/yoof miraculously having amazing adventures and saving the galaxy a bit duff and unbelievable. Maybe as a one off episode, fine, bus a whole series? Many seasons? And if they do pull it off its basically Lower Decks/Prodigy Season 2 which they want rid off. Even as a kids show Prodigy would / will struggle to keep that format seeming even remotely feasible for any length of time. And Lower Decks kind of moved on from it. |
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Post by The Doctor on Jul 30, 2024 20:48:25 GMT
It depends if this is an episodic format or a 'movie for television'. An episodic format show says: here are the characters, here is the premise. Then it tells many stories over the course of a season, possibly with an arc plot in the background ie 'Strange New Worlds'. So you have 10 stories a season, for example.
Many streaming shows are done as a 'movie for television' where each season is just one story distributed in chunks ie 'Picard'. So in that show which ran 3 seasons there were only 3 stories.
If Academy fits with the latter type of show then there is no need to be concerned with if it has enough in a premise to sustain multiple stories. It may only be one story per season (though I hope not!).
-Ralph
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