TSpark Synergenex Transformers/Zoids

[Philip Ayres]

snakas.blog95.fc2.com/blog-entry-9816.html

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUWB2iakKcA

[Stomski]

What a curiously over produced video, and then the Coming Soon text is some stock text effect and font.

Looks good though, not sure about Optimus fits the alt mode, but I'm interested.

[Bogatan]

Finally.

[The Doctor]

FUCKING AMAZING.

-Ralph

[Bogatan]

Not my favourite Zoid despite being one we had as kids and me being a big fan of Chaotic century back in the day.

But I get its one of the more recognisable and lends itself to a fairly standard transformation. And it looks amazing.

But is it going to be a model kit?

[Philip Ayres]

Aug 26, 2024 10:32:37 GMT Bogatan said:

But is it going to be a model kit?

Probably a reshell of Thundertron tfwiki.net/wiki/Thundertron#Legacy

[Bogatan]

I am not convinced. If it is it'll have to be one of those remoulds were all thats left are the hip joints.

[The Doctor]

It's a Zoid. It has got nothing to do with Thundertron.

-Ralph

[Philip Ayres]

Apart from being a transforming lion.

There's more of a connection there than there is between G2 Laser Op and Mechagodzilla!

I think we remarked on Thundrtron's Shield Liger similarities when we first saw it.

EDIT tmukhub.proboards.com/post/505502/thread apparently there was a hint to it being reused as a Zoids crossover when revealed

[Fortmax2020]

Must be a reshell of G1 Razorclaw by that lion-gic.

[legios]

Aug 26, 2024 9:26:49 GMT The Doctor said:

FUCKING AMAZING.

-Ralph

I can't decide whether this is the more wild of the three Zoids crossovers. Or whether the Spiderman one is more surprising (A Spiderman/Zoids collab toy, in Japan of all places!). Mind you, the fact that we are apparently getting a second Zoids/Patlabor crossover for next year is pretty bonkers as well!

Karl

[legios]

Aug 26, 2024 10:45:50 GMT Bogatan said:

I am not convinced. If it is it'll have to be one of those remoulds were all thats left are the hip joints.

I tend to agree - if it matches the concept art I think that it is likely all it actually shares with Thundertron is some general engineering. And given that there are only so many reasonable ways to get from a feline form to a humanoid form...its going to have some innate similarities purely by didn't that it is trying to do the same things.

Karl

[Jim]

We seem to be skipping the fact that this is a triple-crossover - Transformers x Zoids x Diaclone Reboot! I find that quite exciting!

It looks like it comes with one of the little Diaclone Reboot bikes, as pictured next to his left foot, and for all that it signifies anything at all it is about the right size for Thundertron. Also Thundertron has that shield thing on his back at about the same place that little aircraft appears to sit.

I'd still go for this likely being shared engineering (possibly only at a conceptual level) over retool though.

Given how qualitatively different Diaclone Reboot feels compared to Transformers, I'm curious where it's going to sit in those terms, especially as a DR toy of that size is not going to be cheap. I would guess more towards the TF end of the scale, maybe as a way to pull a few more TF fans into DR?

[legios]

I've also just noticed that the little Diaclone flier thing it is showing, appears almost like a combination of the hatch of the back of the Liger and the flip-out cannon that live underneath it, the tail-gun we can see in the picture and the alternate, winged tail piece from the Shield/Blade Liger that slips on over the end of the tail. Having that as a detachable set of pieces that form a small vehicle would be a very New Diaclone kind of thing to do,

Karl

[Stomski]

So you don't think this will be a model kit?

[The Doctor]

I personally doubt it but we don't know until more product details are available.

-Ralph

[legios]

Aug 26, 2024 17:33:13 GMT Stomski said:

So you don't think this will be a model kit?

No idea. The previous Zoids Collab, the first Patlabor one was but that was a lot less ambitious. Essentially one of the Wolf-Zoids with a new lightbar piece and a black-and-white deco. This is a lot more out-there. On the other hand, a model kit would allow swapping out of parts for different modes so it isn't beyond the realm of possibility. I genuinely don't know. We'll just have to wait and see.

Karl

[Toph]

Whatever that is, it's a new mold and not a retool of Thundertron.

The question is, is it a proper zoid that transforms (either kreo style or actually transforms), or is it a proper transformer mold that has zoid detailing?

If it's the later, it might be a pretool for a Leobreaker. And thus that mystery Cybertron capsule leader may be solved.

I've never cared about zoids. Even when i was little, I had relatives give me a few based on my love for Voltron, TFs, and Gobots, but the toys never appealed to me even slightly even after playing with them.
So I'm not getting this. It doesn't even twinge the curiosity piece desire that the less neat looking Godzilla ones do.

But I'm glad this exists. It makes more sense than a lot of the crossovers. Honestly I think this is a crossover that could not only support an entire series, but an anime, too.

[shaggydave76]

Ha!
If it's a diaclone cross, can we also have a teeny tiny Van Flyheight and Fiona to sit in the cab?

[shaggydave76]

Aug 26, 2024 20:59:59 GMT Toph said:

But I'm glad this exists. It makes more sense than a lot of the crossovers. Honestly I think this is a crossover that could not only support an entire series, but an anime, too.

It COULD work as an anime crossover.

One set-up for the series could be that a stray asteroid ejected from from Cybertron crashes on to Planet Zi, and it's full of Transformation Cogs/Gears/Keys that get scattered all over the planet, which Zoid Pilots then start discovering.

Or, even wilder, maybe it turns out that Zoid Eve is a former Cybertronian who crashed on Planet Zi eons ago, but lost the power to give robots the power to transform, hence them just being semi-sentient animal based Zoids . . .Until now!

[Philip Ayres]

Aug 26, 2024 22:49:57 GMT shaggydave76 said:

Ha!
If it's a diaclone cross, can we also have a teeny tiny Van Flyheight and Fiona to sit in the cab?

My Blade Liger has those

[Llama God]

If it's not a model kit with a wind-up motor then it's not a true Zoid, as far as I'm concerned! (I know it will have/be neither of these things.)

[Benn]

I seem to remember liking Zoids as a kid, but not quite enough to get any of the big toys. No idea what the franchise is now.

[legios]

Mostly high-end poseable modelkits. The old motorized kits are pretty much a thing of the past, like Transformers it is primarily a nostalgia franchise aimed at older buyers with high disposable income. The new kits look very pretty, but are well out of my price range - and the lack of motorization makes it feel like it has lost the unique selling point that differentiated it from Gunpla, Moderoid kits et al. It's just another model kit line amongst many - and a pricey one at that.

Karl

[Pinwig]

That recent Zoids Wild line looked close to the original in terms of motors and kit types. I never did get any of those.

[The Doctor]

Zoids no longer have motors?? That's the unique selling point! This makes me sad.

-Ralph

[Bogatan]

Aug 27, 2024 13:28:40 GMT Pinwig said:

That recent Zoids Wild line looked close to the original in terms of motors and kit types. I never did get any of those.

I got the massively oversized Sliterzoid from that line I think.

Pretty sure it also had a motor of some kind.

Definitely felt like a kids line toy. In a good way. Basically the same as the original but the extra size made it an easier build.

[Bogatan]

I sadly dont expect a model kit, though Transformers have been doing more of those in recent years. But its also looks a simple enough transformation that I dont think its impossible.

[legios]

Aug 27, 2024 15:06:07 GMT Bogatan said:

Aug 27, 2024 13:28:40 GMT Pinwig said:

That recent Zoids Wild line looked close to the original in terms of motors and kit types. I never did get any of those.

I got the massively oversized Sliterzoid from that line I think.

Pretty sure it also had a motor of some kind.

Definitely felt like a kids line toy. In a good way. Basically the same as the original but the extra size made it an easier build.

I have been doing some research this afternoon, and it looks like some Zoids kits do have motors and some do not. It seems that Tomy's kits have battery operated motors, and have walk cycles, light up features etc, whereas Kotobukiya's HMM (High Master Model) Zoids range, and the "Markings Plus" spin-off imprint lack the motors but have enhanced articulation.

I am very, very pleased to be wrong - lovely to see that both options exist.

Karl

[The Doctor]

Yay!

-Ralph