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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Sept 20, 2024 16:13:07 GMT
I've completely lost all track of the MCU. Wake up when they do the Fantastic Four or THE SENTRY. Is this the one Shockprowl has been waiting for? (Edit: concept trailer, not actual film footage.) Martin |
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Post by Shockprowl on Sept 20, 2024 17:23:31 GMT
OH MY GODFATHERS!!!!
SENTRY! SENTRY! SENTRY! SENTRY!!!!!
(I'm not sure I like how they've styled him, where's his beautiful glowing golden locks? I'm sure I'll over that though.)
SENTRY!
THIS will be my first trip to the cinema in five years!!!
I knew it! I knew they had to do him eventually! Obviously bringing him out to save the franchise! Clever of them to keep an A-lister back this long!
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Sept 20, 2024 17:26:34 GMT
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Sept 20, 2024 17:32:08 GMT
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Post by Toph on Sept 22, 2024 23:00:55 GMT
So... Marvel's Suicide Squad.
Well, that's depressingly devoid of any originality.
Thunderbolts should be a series that's that follows the original concept, but set during the five year snap as a substitute for the Onslaught/Heroes Reborn event.
Villains that create and use superhero personas to hide and mask their intentions, only to realize they like being heroes, is so much fresher than knockoff Suicide Squad.
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Sept 23, 2024 19:42:41 GMT
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Post by legios on Sept 23, 2024 19:51:27 GMT
Hmmmmm. As teaser trailers for motion pictures go...this is one.
Karl
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Sept 23, 2024 19:54:47 GMT
OK, that's the genuine teaser, with the mysterious 'Bob'.
I've moved the other posts on this subject into this thread.
Martin
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Sept 23, 2024 20:22:35 GMT
So... Marvel's Suicide Squad. Well, that's depressingly devoid of any originality. Thunderbolts should be a series that's that follows the original concept, but set during the five year snap as a substitute for the Onslaught/Heroes Reborn event. Villains that create and use superhero personas to hide and mask their intentions, only to realize they like being heroes, is so much fresher than knockoff Suicide Squad. That doesn't work. The reason the Thunderbolts concept worked right off the bat was you had the rich backstory and established histories to play with regarding the villains. You don't have that to play with in one film. |
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Post by The Doctor on Sept 23, 2024 21:36:49 GMT
*watches trailer*
I really wish the current trend for cinematography so dark it interferes with the readability of a scene would just...please fuck off.
-Ralph
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Post by Rich on Sept 23, 2024 22:03:04 GMT
Pugh has loads of charisma so can see why they're leading with her but for the rest it looked dull.
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Post by Toph on Sept 23, 2024 22:14:57 GMT
So... Marvel's Suicide Squad. Well, that's depressingly devoid of any originality. Thunderbolts should be a series that's that follows the original concept, but set during the five year snap as a substitute for the Onslaught/Heroes Reborn event. Villains that create and use superhero personas to hide and mask their intentions, only to realize they like being heroes, is so much fresher than knockoff Suicide Squad. That doesn't work. The reason the Thunderbolts concept worked right off the bat was you had the rich backstory and established histories to play with regarding the villains. You don't have that to play with in one film. That's why i said series, not movie. And with enough foresight to not kill off every single villain, they would have. I mean, Baron Zemo was already in play had they let him live, and he's the keystone for the og thunderbolts |
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Post by legios on Sept 24, 2024 5:49:01 GMT
*watches trailer* I really wish the current trend for cinematography so dark it interferes with the readability of a scene would just...please fuck off. -Ralph It also makes for some very flat and visually uninteresting scenes. So much of this trailer was just folk in dark clothes on a dark background, in the dark. Reducing everything to blobs in the murk. It doesn't catch my interest on a visual level at all. Karl |
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Post by Benn on Sept 24, 2024 8:36:41 GMT
It looks dull as dishwater. I know Marvel has all these properties, but a special ops team with no on-display superpowers is not what I'm looking for from a Marvel film.
This could be anything, and it ends up looking like nothing.
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Post by The Doctor on Sept 24, 2024 11:12:00 GMT
It just looks like streaming service filler. Nothing about that trailer screams: BIG CINEMA EVENT.
-Ralph
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Post by Toph on Sept 26, 2024 5:18:04 GMT
That doesn't work. The reason the Thunderbolts concept worked right off the bat was you had the rich backstory and established histories to play with regarding the villains. You don't have that to play with in one film. That's why i said series, not movie. And with enough foresight to not kill off every single villain, they would have. I mean, Baron Zemo was already in play had they let him live, and he's the keystone for the og thunderbolts So thinking about this, and actually? I think it would have worked as a movie. Use some of the surviving villains, with new personas. On the pre-movie press tours, the actors talk about how they've been offered this new part, and are eager to bring these new characters to life. The rest of the team introducing the rest of the thunderbolts, lifted from the comics. Songbird, Moonstone, and such. Of course the bit reveal at the end (or middle?) that these guys are villains all along. They used the Snap to fake their own deaths. Perfect opportunity to create a new identity. The universe is already established well enough that they can imply the newly introduced thunderbolts are known, in the way Civil War implied Spiderman was already a known character in the universe, even if this is his introduction to the audience. They can easily add to this by using the freshly introduced characters as the villains of other D+ series. It wouldn't be that hard to use Screaming Mimi or Tarantula somewhere. In fact, they could have had already started doing this with Hawkeye and She-Hulk. Because they had already had the basic idea for doing a Thunderbolts movie. And yeah, I know those are post endgame. Just saying as far in advance as they start setting shit up now, it wouldn't have been hard to start planting the seeds, if they were actually deadicated to the proper Thunderbolts. But what they went with shows they don't really give a shit about the Thunderbolts, and just want their own kid friendly Suicide Squad. |
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Post by legios on Sept 26, 2024 16:37:18 GMT
It looks dull as dishwater. I know Marvel has all these properties, but a special ops team with no on-display superpowers is not what I'm looking for from a Marvel film. This could be anything, and it ends up looking like nothing. My overriding thought about it in the last few days has been how utterly generic it feels. A dimly lit action movie with dark-clad people doing punching and shooting in the dark to generic faceless opponents for unclear reasons. It could be anyone of a hundred interchangeable fairly low-budget action flicks that are used as filler for streaming services. (Although one that has beaten the odds by not having Frank Grillo as mid-card or headliner). Might it have the equivalent of The Suicide Squad's Third-act "what the hell, giant Starfish Alien. Because we can" moment. Possibly, but on the basis of that trailer there is no reason to believe it. I can wait until next time I have D+ and give the first 20 minutes a go and see if it grabs me then. Karl |
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