Rich
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Post by Rich on Jul 4, 2008 17:51:51 GMT
I wish that the sky could be a colour other than black on Cybertron - there's no good reason for it IMO (okay a few story elements have explained it over the years, but none of them have really stood up to any scrutiny any more than it having an orange sky). All it serves to do is fix the tone of the stories set on the planet, limit the scope of the artists and bore me.
But the convention seems to be fixed, so I guess I'm going to have to grit my teeth every time we Return to Cybertron.
Any comments about the sky at night, or other fixed things about the TF universe that have started to grate at you?
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Jul 4, 2008 17:59:32 GMT
I wish that the sky could be a colour other than black on Cybertron - there's no good reason for it IMO (okay a few story elements have explained it over the years, but none of them have really stood up to any scrutiny any more than it having an orange sky). All it serves to do is fix the tone of the stories set on the planet, limit the scope of the artists and bore me. I agree that when Cybertron's in orbit of a star (pre-war, Eugenesis era onwards) it should have a coloured sky in daytime. But when it's shaken loose from orbit and has no sun (i.e. in all the comics after pages 1-2, issue 1), it makes sense for it to always be night. In fact, the only sky we are shown on Cybertron prior to it being shaken loose from orbit in issue 1, is white. Oh, there's loads of stuff that frustrate me about TFs, looking back from a grown-up perspective: size-changing, inconsistent sizes, high cast turnover driven by toy sales, but if I had to pick one on a par with yours, it's... THE ARK! Why couldn't they pick a shape and colour for it and stick with it? Martin |
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Post by legios on Jul 4, 2008 19:41:17 GMT
Oh, there's loads of stuff that frustrate me about TFs, looking back from a grown-up perspective: size-changing, inconsistent sizes, high cast turnover driven by toy sales, but if I had to pick one on a par with yours, it's... THE ARK! Why couldn't they pick a shape and colour for it and stick with it? Martin I can kind of understand that - especially as they had a lovely design for it in the first issue. I have a great fondness for the "space brick" version of the Ark, and that is what I see whenever anyone mentions it. (Funny, "Transformers" is the only place it feels right to me to call a spaceship "it".). Karl |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2008 10:31:22 GMT
According to what I read many years ago the sky on Earth is blue because of the atmosphere on it that allows humans to live on it. The sky around Cybertron in black probably indicates that there is no atmosphere on it and so it takes the colour of outer space instead. If the sky was white or orange and red then that would suggest (to me anyway) that there are many wars being waged on Cybertron and the the colours are just the massive amounts of laser fire being shot around. Transformers could get away with this kind of colouring because of the story of constant fighting on the planet.
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Post by legios on Jul 6, 2008 21:04:46 GMT
If the sky was white or orange and red then that would suggest (to me anyway) that there are many wars being waged on Cybertron and the the colours are just the massive amounts of laser fire being shot around. Transformers could get away with this kind of colouring because of the story of constant fighting on the planet. I wouldn't have thought lasers would really light up the sky - unless they were well into the visible spectrum, which doesn't seem to me to be the most efficient way to build them. Mind you, plasma, fusion and chemically propelled weapons would create plenty of stray light right enough. Mentioning Cybertron's atmosphere does open the can of worms regarding exactly how likely it is that it had an atmospheric mix suitable for humans to breath. Most of the processes that have created a human-compatible atmosphere on Earth probably wouldn't have occured on Cybertron so you do have to wonder who put the oxy-nitro mix in place for the Neo-Knights to breath...... (Primus probably installed big tanks of gases in the planets core or something silly......) Karl |
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Rich
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Post by Rich on Jul 6, 2008 21:08:44 GMT
You're right about the atmosphere, at least as I understand it. It's something I'd considered, but, in the Marvel comics at least, the clear implication has been that Cybertron has an atmosphere of some sort.
Of course, the thing about the Marvel stories is that it surely would have been too cold for any kind of life, even mechanical, if the planet wasn't attached to a star - it would certainly have used up even more the planet's fuel and I doubt huddling around a burning bin would have kept the Empties warm!
None of it makes sense, but the sky still bugs me! It’s just one of those things that annoys.
As for the Ark, I’m afraid it’s orange in my mind. Certain images from the TV show stuck and some from the comic, in this case the TV show won.
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