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Post by charlesrocketboy on Sept 2, 2008 11:00:54 GMT
If Unicron really had such a limited imagination that he had to fall back on the humans' traditional image of the Devil, he could at least have given himself a tail. Unicron predates humanity, so it'd be more likely our image of the Devil is based on him. How we knew about him is unknown, but I blame the Maximals. |
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Post by legios on Sept 2, 2008 19:29:42 GMT
Oh - and if YOU were a giant robot from outer space - wouldn't YOU want to look like us? Pete I probably wouldn't actually. If I was a giant robot from outer space with the ability to decide what my form was actually going to be I probably wouldn't pick the humanoid form. It is a bit of a jack-of-all-trades configuration really, with some alarming areas of vulnerability in the design. (For a start I would want something with a lower centre of gravity, getting knocked over by the defending forces is just embarressing, even if I did do huge amounts of damage to their cities when I fell over). Not to say that humanoid robots and mecha don't have good reasons for existing - they are good for fighting giant alien humanoids until "Culture Shock" does its thing, and without hands and arms how could you handle a riot baton to stun rampaging stolen construction mecha? But if I was coming down to Earth it would depend if I was coming as friend (in which case I would indeed want to look like the locals, but not too much - "uncanny valley effect" and all) or whether I was coming as foe. In the latter case I'd probably want to look alien and terrifying (so probably a bit like Cthulu I guess.....). Karl |
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Post by Dark Stranger on Sept 3, 2008 21:17:13 GMT
Pete, great point about Unicron being planet sized and not exerting any gravity disasters on Cybertron.
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Post by Nigel on Sept 7, 2008 13:26:42 GMT
Yeah, but Cybertron was freefalling (if that's the correct term in the context) through space anyway, so gravity should already have been up the spout.
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Post by The Doctor on Sept 13, 2008 23:45:25 GMT
Can any of you who are reasonably conversant with Proper Science explain how the whole 'planet spiralling through space' idea could actually work? Ie, how there is gravity on the planet and it isn't ripped to bits by the stress?
-Ralph
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Sept 14, 2008 7:24:21 GMT
There isn't really any problem, Ralph.
Gravity is the result of the mass of a planet. Gravity on Earth would be pretty much the same regardless of whether the Earth is spinning or not, or orbiting a star or not. It's the mass of rock that pulls us towards it.
And stress is only caused by acceleration or deceleration - there is no stress on a body in freefall in space. The only dangers to Cybertron came from the force at the start that forced it out of its orbit around Alpha Centauri (the engines built by Megatron, some say), and any obstacles such as asteroids or extreme gravitational forces caused by other massive bodies it encounters on its journey, which cause it to accelerate or decelerate.
Martin
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Post by The Doctor on Sept 14, 2008 10:25:31 GMT
I see. It's all real after all.
-Ralph
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Sept 14, 2008 17:13:48 GMT
Well, the existence of a structurally stable Saturn-sized honeycombed metal planet with Earth's gravity and a breathable atmosphere at its surface probably is impossible.
But if it could exist, it would have no problem whizzing through interstellar space, as per my previous post.
Martin
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Post by legios on Sept 14, 2008 19:43:43 GMT
Well, the existence of a structurally stable Saturn-sized honeycombed metal planet with Earth's gravity and a breathable atmosphere at its surface probably is impossible. It would have to be made of some incredibly low density materials, and I'm not sure there is anything solid in the universe with a sufficiently low density to fit the bill. Indeed - after all, it isn't as if our own planet isn't already travelling through space at a rather impressive lick even as we speak. Just going around in circles rather than in any more purposeful direction. (Does make me wonder about Megatron's alleged planetary engines though. For the planet to travel from Alpha Cent to Sol in any sensible time frame then either they provided a quite horrifying (and dangerous) level of acceleration to the planet, or they were burning for a rather frightening length of time by human standards - where did all the fuel come from for a start? (assuming Megatron didn't just channel a huge amount of anti-matter into them, which comes with its own problems of course)). Karl |
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Post by The Doctor on Nov 14, 2008 18:11:08 GMT
Hmmmm, yes. How exactly was fuel produced on Cybertron? Can't imagine them having much of an industy in war time.
-Ralph
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Post by Nigel on Nov 14, 2008 19:16:15 GMT
I have thoughts on such matters. One of these days, I'll write something for a fanzine.
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Post by legios on Nov 14, 2008 22:17:14 GMT
Hmmmm, yes. How exactly was fuel produced on Cybertron? Can't imagine them having much of an industy in war time. -Ralph I'd say that they must have had a fair industrial base of some sort. They throw around missiles and what-not with great abandon, and these have to be manufactured somewhere. However, the nature of that industrial base is open to question. I suppose (taking some inspiration from the Zentraedi in Macross) that they may have had automated factories - taking in raw materials at one end and producing finished munitions the other. (That might explain the existence of the State Games - something to help occupy a leisured majority of the population.) I'm just speculating now of course. As to the energy question, that is a good one - given that Cybertron doesn't seem likely to have abundant natural resources of radioactives or whatnot. Maybe they had enormous thermal potential generator stations, exploiting a temperature gradient between surface and core? No, I don't find it that convincing either. Karl |
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Post by Gav on Nov 17, 2008 12:06:04 GMT
They used repulsor rays!
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Post by Shockprowl on Nov 19, 2008 22:22:34 GMT
although - what are the physics of a battle between Primus and Unicron? I'm still searching for a reason why they have legs and feet, or where exactly they think they're going to walk to on them. Martin Wine out the nose! Thanks dude! |
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Post by Shockprowl on Nov 19, 2008 22:22:57 GMT
How else can they dance the waltz in the Cosmic Ballroom at the end of time? -Ralph And again, ya sons of bitches! |
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Post by KnightBeat on Dec 22, 2020 0:55:12 GMT
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Post by The Doctor on Dec 22, 2020 10:18:58 GMT
It is very nice.
-Ralph
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Post by Benn on Dec 22, 2020 10:38:16 GMT
It is glorious. Pennies allowing post Christmas, I might go for this.
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Dec 22, 2020 11:32:34 GMT
The scale is all wrong. Unicron is bigger than A2!
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Post by Pinwig on Dec 22, 2020 11:37:08 GMT
That is amazing. I may just have to have one of those.
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Dec 24, 2020 17:53:32 GMT
Think I need one of these!
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