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Post by Philip Ayres on Jul 28, 2010 9:12:14 GMT
Wow, you're at Pegasus already? That's some going!
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Jul 28, 2010 9:47:59 GMT
Well done Martin!!
I remember watching the three-part Pegasus storyline for the first time and having to wait for months between parts. Agony!
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Post by legios on Jul 28, 2010 20:35:28 GMT
I remember the Pegasus three parter being the point at which I started to drift away from the series. I have seen the following season and a half but did feel my engagement with the series wane somewhat. I was planning on renting the rest of it in due course but, with the exception of Razor, have not quite gotten around to it.
The Pegasus arc was fantastic stuff I thought though. Some really strong performances and a solid dramatic spine to it.
Karl
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Post by panderson on Jul 31, 2010 21:32:11 GMT
I thought at the time it was a big coincidence that I had bought the first free seasons of BSG on the cheap and I also was making way through them - it was just weired..but then I hear about the Plan in the show....and now I am scared GRIN
Anyway - just watched the one with the attack on the fuel moon in first season
THAT WAS FRACKING GREAT!!!
No spoilers but had me on edge of seat and fist pumping many times!!
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Aug 1, 2010 10:20:40 GMT
I remember the Pegasus three parter being the point at which I started to drift away from the series. I have seen the following season and a half but did feel my engagement with the series wane somewhat. I was planning on renting the rest of it in due course but, with the exception of Razor, have not quite gotten around to it. The Pegasus arc was fantastic stuff I thought though. Some really strong performances and a solid dramatic spine to it. I'm into season 3 now but my progress has slowed following the Pegasus 3-parter. It was definitely the high point in terms of being unable to switch off. I've been quite happy to watch subsequent episodes singly without being compelled to watch more. It's a great series for showing the ugly side of humanity. With other space shows such as Star Trek and B5, I've felt myself being on the same side as the heroes, because they generally had the same ethical beliefs as me. Galactica is different, with its summary executions, declarations of martial law, attempts at genocide and assassination, and so much hatred and bigotry. The only human character who I actually admire and can think of as an all-round 'good guy' is Helo. The human characters haven't shown much character growth in the first two and a half years, as all the same tensions and egos are still there that were at the start. I'm losing interest in Baltar as he's quite predictable now and hasn't changed - though he's had several missed opportunities to take moral stands. There are no obvious Londos, G'Kars or Virs yet, and if there are going to be any, the Cylons look like more likely candidates than the humans. Onwards I go! Martin |
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Post by Philip Ayres on Aug 1, 2010 12:48:24 GMT
How far into series 3?
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Aug 1, 2010 14:20:49 GMT
The crap boxing ring episode. Oh, and Dean Stockwell RULES. I hope he gets to use a hand-held beeping device-thingy at some point. Martin |
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Post by Philip Ayres on Aug 1, 2010 18:40:39 GMT
Yeah it's not good. Have you had the algae planet yet ? Probably not. There's a lag a bit during the last half of s3 but it picks up before the end and as I've said before Romo Lampkin is great.
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Aug 3, 2010 6:00:49 GMT
Ah, I love a good courtroom drama with a rousing idealistic speech that tips the balance when all hope seems lost.
But dammit, the ever-irritating Starbuck can't stay dead for more than one episode???
Martin
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Post by Philip Ayres on Aug 3, 2010 7:45:50 GMT
So who do you think the last Cylon is ?
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Aug 3, 2010 18:33:51 GMT
So who do you think the last Cylon is ? I struggle to think of anyone that it _couldn't_ be. The President, I suppose, since she wouldn't have had cancer if she had Cylon blood in her veins? The Adamas, if they are both genuine, since they are related to each other? Starbuck, since the Cylons wanted to impregnate her? Dunno. None of them are watertight impossibilities. Martin |
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Post by blueshift on Aug 3, 2010 18:38:17 GMT
In a meta twist, it turns out that Ralph is the final Cylon!
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Aug 3, 2010 19:04:22 GMT
I suppose it can't be Helo if he had a half-human child with a Cylon?
So it's someone I've met already, I take it.
Martin
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Post by The Doctor on Aug 3, 2010 19:26:01 GMT
In a meta twist, it turns out that Ralph is the final Cylon! Rarrrrooooooooaarrrrrrr. -Ralph |
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Aug 7, 2010 14:40:09 GMT
Finished! Wow, good ending. Very good series as a whole, and works well watching the whole of BG over a fortnight with no foreknowledge, like reading a gripping novel. I would rate it much higher still if only there were more characters in it who I actually liked and cared about. The majority are just far too arrogant for me to engage with. Still, that's not to say they didn't come across as believable, rounded characters - just rather unpleasant believable, rounded characters. And the one character who I latched on to at a very early stage as being an all-round good guy in every respect - Helo - maintained that standing in my eyes to the very end and got a happy ending, which made me very happy. The other character that I thought was interesting in the early episodes - Baltar - ended up disappointing by just becoming annoying and even more big-headed than he was to begin with, rather than - as I had hoped - gaining wisdom and humility as the series progressed. In terms of gripping stories, I've already mentioned the Pegasus trilogy as edge-of-the-seat stuff. The mutiny early in season four was similarly good. But while both had top-notch suspense and action, in neither case did I see one side as having the indisputable moral high ground - even if one side was worse than the other. On the whole, Battlestar Galactica is about survival at any cost - including at any moral cost. It's about life and death without the luxury of considering right and wrong, and feels a bit empty as a result. But it is what it sets out to be, and therefore deserves its place as one of the all-time greats of TV science-fiction. Martin |
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Post by Cullen on Aug 7, 2010 16:07:31 GMT
Wow that must have been quite a ride to watch it all in a fortnight. Glad you liked the end. I think I liked Baltar because he didn't gain wisdom or humility - I thought quite early on it would be a bit of a cliche that he learned the error of his ways. He had some great comedy moments to.
As a warning don't pick up The Plan. It's a feature-length episode that presents the flight from the colonies destruction from the Cylons POV. It's essentially a clips episode and is supposed to explain 'things' (mostly stuff that needs no explanation). Avoid.
Oh and what's all the hate for the boxing episode? That was one of my favourites, although admittedly only on second viewing. I think I liked most of series 3 after a second watch, mainly as I appreciated more that the series as a whole had changed from being a chase based series (which ended after the Pegasus three parter) to the nit and grit of a survival based series.
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Aug 7, 2010 16:12:12 GMT
Likes: - The old-fashioned technology integrated with spaceships - old phones with cords rather than mobiles, tape recorders, etc. - The way they realised the kid in season one was a bad idea and cut most of his scenes from the final cut, and then cut him altogether in later seasons. - Lawyer Lampkin Dislikes: - The little zoom-ins that stop me from forgetting there's a cameraman in the room with the characters. - The word 'frak' that keeps reminding me it's a TV show with censorship rules, which never crosses my mind when watching other TV shows that just use milder real swear words instead. Wow that must have been quite a ride to watch it all in a fortnight. Two weeks and a day actually. It's a testament to the series that I found it so compelling that I felt no need for other TV or leisure reading during that period. Martin |
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Post by Philip Ayres on Aug 7, 2010 16:51:28 GMT
Acting President Lampkin to you! |
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Post by Bogatan on Aug 7, 2010 16:52:26 GMT
I liked the use of frak, its meaning was so clear and it was so frequently used it has almost escaped into the wild. And it could be used with the sort of venom that makes lesser bad language just sound silly.
I find myself using it unintentionally and have heard it used a bit in real life and especially online where it escapes the swear filter.
Andy
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Post by blueshift on Aug 7, 2010 17:17:27 GMT
Haha yeah, I think 'frak' has definately escaped into the wild, I hear it so much now I forget it was from BSG
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Aug 18, 2010 7:23:12 GMT
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Aug 26, 2010 7:19:45 GMT
Good grief. I just did a quick search to find out a bit more about the writers' intentions for how the Galactica mysteries should be interpreted, which I found here. All very reasonable. Then I made the mistake of scrolling down and witnessed the hatred of die-hard fans of the series for the way it ended. Scary. Haha yeah, I think 'frak' has definately escaped into the wild, I hear it so much now I forget it was from BSG I haven't heard it elsewhere myself - but after reading the fan rants about the apparently awful finale, in which they use it as if it was an actual word, I'm afraid I'll always associate it with angry obsessives unable to separate fantasy from reality - and think they have a right to rational answers to every question, even in art. Transformers has people who take things too seriously too, of course. Thinking particularly of such over-the-top statements as "Michael Bay raped my childhood" and the like. Martin |
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Post by The Doctor on Aug 26, 2010 14:28:47 GMT
If I had my way, the phrase 'raped my childhood' would be eradicated from existence. Equating a horrible crime like that with someone doing a different version of something you liked as a kid is both disgusting and shows an astonishing lack of perspective.
-Ralph
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Post by Bogatan on Aug 26, 2010 14:52:43 GMT
Haha yeah, I think 'frak' has definately escaped into the wild, I hear it so much now I forget it was from BSG I haven't heard it elsewhere myself - Martin Right before reading that I heard it on Better off Ted. I think its first stage of release was other US TV with the same demographics as Galactica as it served as a "hey we're cool cause we drop BG references" and secondly because it subbed for language that would never get on network TV. I've learnt to see the phrase "rape my childhood" as shorthand for "You and I will never agree or have any kind of meaningful conversation, therefore I will ignore you except when I choose to see just how incredibly stupid and ignorant you are of the real world for my own amusement." But yes better it never existed. Andy |
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Post by Philip Ayres on Aug 26, 2010 17:35:43 GMT
I can't see how anyone who had been watching the series could take issue with the ending. All the themes had been there and prominantly displayed all along. Great ending.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Mar 21, 2012 8:55:29 GMT
Blood & Chrome: Husker's back!
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Post by The Doctor on Mar 22, 2012 7:31:21 GMT
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Post by Philip Ayres on Nov 9, 2012 17:28:15 GMT
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Post by Shockprowl on Feb 24, 2014 20:30:06 GMT
New Battle Star Galactica.
Holy Cow!!!! Oh My Gods this series is BRIIILLLIIIAAANNNTTTT!!!!!!!!!
AAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
My chumb as work has lent me season one. Half way through. Mamma.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Feb 24, 2014 20:54:29 GMT
You ain't seen NOTHING yet.
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