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Post by Shockprowl on Dec 13, 2007 11:29:09 GMT
Not sure if you've mentioned all this previously, I wanted to get this in quick before we get a job, but I felt I had to voice my concerns over the current/upcomming Dr.Who serieseses. Tate?! WTH?! As funny as she is- in a comedy show! Dr.Who isn't comedy. Yes it has plenty of funny bits in it but it's core is drama, and I don't think Miss Tate will do the show any favours at all. I didn't like the Runaway Bride. And I fear for the show. Especially if they're bringin in guest stars like Kylie. Again, she's very good at what she does, but come on Dr.Who-people, what's she doing in our show? I thought a few of last season eps were off the boil, and I'm concerned for the future. It isn't dark enough. I know it has to maintain it's appeal for a younger audience, but as mentioned above, Dr.Who scarred us as children! That's it's function! Some of the stories are feeling a bit light and fluffy to me these days. Sorry if this seems like a rant. Just my opinion of course!
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Post by gloriana on Dec 13, 2007 16:44:25 GMT
shockprowl, I'm with you 100% here. It has me reaching for my "Bring Back Billie Piper" T-shirts (with "Because we want to" on the back). And that's saying something. Tate + Who = not that funny actually. David Tennant is too good (or scrummy depending on your perspective) to get stuck with that moron as a side-kick. Again I agree regarding Kylie. I thought Australia hadn't been invented at the time of the sinking of the Titanic. It's almost become too mainstream - if that's the right word. I'm a child of the Tom Baker and Peter Davidson Doctors and dear God I got scared. Now I just get fed up with the totty-like side kicks.
Rowan
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Post by legios on Dec 13, 2007 18:43:01 GMT
shockprowl, I'm with you 100% here. It has me reaching for my "Bring Back Billie Piper" T-shirts (with "Because we want to" on the back). And that's saying something. Tate + Who = not that funny actually. David Tennant is too good (or scrummy depending on your perspective) to get stuck with that moron as a side-kick. Again I agree regarding Kylie. I thought Australia hadn't been invented at the time of the sinking of the Titanic. It's almost become too mainstream - if that's the right word. I'm a child of the Tom Baker and Peter Davidson Doctors and dear God I got scared. Now I just get fed up with the totty-like side kicks. Rowan Australia was invented a considerable time before the Titanic - and a long time before the first Caucasians laid eyes on it. (Anyway, who says that she is playing an Australian? I wasn't aware that anything had been mentioned regarding her characters national background. As long as she doesn't make too much of a hash of things - and I severely doubt the part will be anything other than froth, it's a Christmas special after all - I don't really see the problem). I have to say that the only weak link so far in terms of regular cast has been Catherine Tate - and I honestly don't know if that was all her or if some of it is down to the wrong script (or a casting flub that matched the wrong actress with the script). I thought Freema Ageyma (spellings wrong I know - too tired to fire up IMDB and check) did a fair job with the material that she was given (which wasn't very much in all honesty). As too it becoming too mainstream. Fie on that. We are talking about television that my entire family can sit down and watch, that still manages to get away with things like "Human Nature/Family of the Blood". Doctor Who is exactly what I want sending its tendrils out into both the mainstream and into what they insist on calling the "genre" world. And if "Blink" wasn't the scares you were looking for.... then I doubt there are many more tricks any series could pull out of the bag. Karl
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Post by Philip Ayres on Dec 13, 2007 19:05:03 GMT
Who says it's *that* Titanic ?
Philip - who's got his Kylietastic issue of DWM today
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Post by The Doctor on Dec 13, 2007 23:32:42 GMT
Sje wasn;t naked with the Dalek famnit!
0-Ralph
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Post by panderson on Dec 14, 2007 8:39:01 GMT
Who says it's *that* Titanic ? Philip - who's got his Kylietastic issue of DWM today Its Douglas Adam's Titanic!!!
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Post by Shockprowl on Dec 14, 2007 10:28:32 GMT
...It has me reaching for my "Bring Back Billie Piper" T-shirts (with "Because we want to" on the back)... Rowan LOL!!! Nice one! I feel Piper is the best of a, bad might be too harsh, questionable bunch, assistant wise. I think they're playing the sexual tension thing tooooo much. Piper got there in the end I think, but Tate, uuuurrgh! I haven't enjoyed the families of the assistants being involved so heavily. I'm not sure I can put my finger on why I think it's loosing it's appeal with me, Dr. Who I mean. Mainstream, fluffy, not dark enough, not sure. Think we're a minority, though, Gloriana. I am, though, totally dreading Tate's involvement though. I am, indeed, quite bothered. I think she's fairly good at what she does, but she doesn't belong in Dr.Who.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Dec 14, 2007 10:40:34 GMT
People were saying the same thing about Billie befopre she turned up.
Ralph has a point. Buy the issue.
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Post by The Doctor on Dec 14, 2007 23:06:09 GMT
Voyage of the Damned trailer:
Jings.
-Ralph
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Dec 14, 2007 23:11:43 GMT
He's saying he's 903 years old I can hear the outcry on OG right now!
Andy
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Post by gloriana on Dec 14, 2007 23:27:19 GMT
Blink was scary. But it didn't have me diving behind the sofa, despite the fact I'd got the crash mats laid out ready. I want to be scared more and have wear the proverbial Rowanskin Jacket (meaning they get wrapped in me because I'm scared).
Quite frankly I am bothered about CT. I have enough Lauren Cooper moments with my Year 10s without getting more when I'm at home relaxing. I will say one thing however; I would be even more bothered if it were Vicky Pollard...
And Karl, yeah, I know about Australia and the Titanic. Don't give me a hard time. I was playing dumb for cheap thrills.
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Post by legios on Dec 14, 2007 23:40:34 GMT
Blink was scary. But it didn't have me diving behind the sofa, despite the fact I'd got the crash mats laid out ready. I want to be scared more and have wear the proverbial Rowanskin Jacket (meaning they get wrapped in me because I'm scared). But the question is, if you saw those old stories for the first time now, at your current age, would you be as scared? Personally the best answer I ever heard to "when was Doctor Who scary" was "age eight". I reckon that the statues in Blink would have done the trick for the kids in the audience of being scary quite nicely. Adults are always going to react in a diffferent way to it that children. (I still think that the _idea_ of the Cybermen is one of the scariest Doctor Who monsters there are. They aren't here to kill you, they are here to process you, cut you up, amputate your humanity and make you one of them. Personally I reckon that much scarier than a Dalek most of the time. Like I say mind, the idea is scary, as implemented in the Cybermen we actually have gotten on screen over five-plus decades....not so much). I am probably the person on the Hub most disconnected from British popular culture.....I am afraid to say I have no idea off the top of my head who Lauren Cooper or Vicky Pollard are. Apologies, I didn't pick up on the humour and thought that you were series there. Sorry about that. Karl
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Post by gloriana on Dec 14, 2007 23:51:45 GMT
Apologies, I didn't pick up on the humour and thought that you were series there. Sorry about that. Series? Have you had a dose of whatever Ralph was on last night? And besides, gently sarcastic tone of voice is hard to convey in the typed message. You're probably right about the "back of the sofa" age, and I do appreciate your comments about the Cybermen. I just didn't find them that scary last time round. [html] www.youtube.com/watch?v=tiG_oFVQCeE [/html] and [html] www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9--0crFqUU [/html] will clue you in a little more. One of the girls I teach in Year 11 *is* Lauren Cooper and says "aks" rather than "ask". I nearly had a fit of the giggles and turned round to tell her that she is a pastiche of herself. Now you'll be telling me you've never seen or heard Dead Ringers.... Rowan Karl
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Post by KnightBeat on Dec 16, 2007 14:19:43 GMT
So, I picked up "The Invasion" this weekend. It was inevitable - Cybermen appear in it, it has Troughton in it... yeah I was going to get this one at some point. I'm three episodes in and I have to admit that I am enjoying it immensely. I'm watching the 3rd episode at this very moment. I was amused by the gargling computer in the 2nd episode. It's like they captured Seaspray and installed him into a 60s mainframe. I'm impressed by the Trougton episodes I've seen so far (all 4 of them). It seems to have aged better than most of the 70s episodes. Its Douglas Adam's Titanic!!! Blimey! I didn't expect that.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Dec 16, 2007 14:38:05 GMT
If you can try and see the surviving episodes of Moonbase, Evil of the Daleks and the Yeti stories. The are cracking.
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Post by The Doctor on Dec 16, 2007 16:31:35 GMT
As is The Tomb of the Cybermen and The War Games. The latter is not on DVD yet alas.
-Ralph
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Post by legios on Dec 16, 2007 16:35:24 GMT
As is The Tomb of the Cybermen and The War Games. The latter is not on DVD yet alas. -Ralph War Games would make a wonderful DVD release - I have the VHS release and it is a superbly enjoyable story. A great adventure story with some superb performances, and with some bonus gubbins with Time Lords and the Doctor's "origin story" in the last episode. I have a lot of time for Patrick Troughton's tenure in the show - if I had to pick a favourite Doctor it would pretty much be him. Karl
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Post by Philip Ayres on Dec 16, 2007 20:49:41 GMT
The missing episodes cds are good too - in addition to the half complete stories above get Power of the Daleks and Fury from the Deep
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Post by The Doctor on Dec 16, 2007 21:19:45 GMT
Yes indeed. I've still to replace the ancient Fury from the Deep tape with the remastered CD. Evil and Power of the Daleks have been listened to many times.
-Ralph
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Post by Philip Ayres on Dec 17, 2007 10:55:29 GMT
The music where Megan is walking into the sea has to be the freakiest bit of DW ever
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Post by The Doctor on Dec 17, 2007 11:00:07 GMT
Not as freaky as the Mr Oak and Mr Quill theme.
EEE-UNK EEE UNK WAHOOWAAHOOO HUHUHUHUHUHUHHUHUHUHAHA! K-DONK! K-DONK! K-DONK! WUHUMWAHOOO K-DUNK! K-DUNK!
-Ralph
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Post by kayevcee on Dec 17, 2007 20:13:57 GMT
That's actually a remarkably accurate textual rendition of the music.
-Nick
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Post by The Doctor on Dec 17, 2007 21:25:21 GMT
I've listened to the tape many, many, many times.
Had a look for the remastered cd version in the shops today on a whim. Could I find it? Could I buggery.
Perhaps it's down there...in the darkness...waiting...
A-WUMPA WUMPA WUMPA!
-Ralph
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Dec 19, 2007 19:45:44 GMT
Blink was just repeated on BBC3 - good lord that's such a brilliant bit of television. Steven Moffat is hands down the MVP of the new era of Doctor Who.
Andy
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Post by legios on Dec 19, 2007 20:18:15 GMT
Blink is superb. One of the real highlights of the new series for my money. A great script that knew exactly what it wanted to do and proceeded to do with aplomb. Brought out everybody else's "A" game as well - from the director, the cast, the composer. Everyone seemed to be hitting on all cylinders.
Karl
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Post by Dave on Dec 19, 2007 21:47:52 GMT
Second half of series 3 was really good, even if I didn't quite like the end to the three-parter.
edit: adbot in relevant ad shocker! It's advertising the complete third series DVD set.
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Post by The Doctor on Dec 19, 2007 21:49:48 GMT
I pulled Blink off the DVD shelf this evening. Made the mistake of watching it with the light off. Brrrr.
-Ralph
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Post by legios on Dec 19, 2007 21:52:18 GMT
edit: adbot in relevant ad shocker! It's advertising the complete third series DVD set. It has to be right by accident on some occassion - the law of probability works for it there. :-) Karl
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Dec 20, 2007 8:14:15 GMT
I also re-watched Blink last night. Damn it! I have to walk past some of those statues this morning! Must... not... blink...
AAARGH!
(Martin gets zapped back in time, i.e. to St Fagans.)
Martin
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Dec 20, 2007 10:11:10 GMT
How far back did you end up Martin? It must have pained you to see civilisation make the same mistakes a second time.
Andy
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