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Post by The Doctor on Mar 3, 2008 16:02:46 GMT
I hate it when that happens. The other day I sat down to watch the 1989 Batman film which I had not seen in many a year. I loved it at the time. And yet, I sank lower and lower in my chair when re-watching it.
It...was...just...shit.
Everything about it annoyed. So dated! Such banal direction! Such atrocious performances! Flat sound design! Arse-grindingly dull story!
I wept tears. Tears!
-Ralph
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Mar 3, 2008 16:22:34 GMT
I'm almost speechless Ralph.
I still love the film, from the understated performance of Michael Keaton, just enough touches to let you know that mentally this is not a well man. The designs of Gotham are superb.
Once you get past the fact that Jack Nicholson is Batman's nemesis it's a good film.
Andy
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Post by kayevcee on Mar 3, 2008 17:42:08 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2008 18:00:39 GMT
Bugsy Malone and all of the Herbie films.
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Mar 3, 2008 18:11:08 GMT
My good opinion of Batman has lessened somewhat since Batman Begins came out, but I still enjoy it. Plus it has Jack Nicholson in it.
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Post by jameso on Mar 4, 2008 1:15:08 GMT
I still like Batman, but it does seem more and more dated each time I catch some of it.
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Post by Shockprowl on Mar 7, 2008 11:14:08 GMT
I think I know what Doc' means re Batman. Keaton's performance is good, but Nicholson is just OTT, too goofy almost.
I can't think of any offering at the mo. Then I am easily pleased.
Ian
EDIT: I've changed googy to goofy, as originaly intended. But I love the word googy! Wounder what it means...
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Post by Hero on Mar 7, 2008 23:27:50 GMT
Batman has aged so badly.
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Post by mkeaton on Mar 7, 2008 23:46:19 GMT
I think you will find I have aged quite well in the near 19 years since the film's release.
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Post by Hero on Mar 8, 2008 3:18:27 GMT
I was talking about Batman, not Beetlejuice
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Post by The Doctor on Mar 9, 2008 17:30:26 GMT
Mr Keaton, star of 'Jack Frost', on this very Hub! Well, I never!
-Ralph
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2008 19:33:00 GMT
It could be worse. We could have Pat Lee posting messages on here.
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Post by Hero on Mar 9, 2008 23:32:07 GMT
PAT LEE!!! ? I WANT A FIGHT!!!!!
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Post by The Doctor on Mar 10, 2008 10:35:46 GMT
Pat Lee is not here, Go and have a beer!
-Ralph
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Post by The Doctor on Apr 16, 2008 20:12:29 GMT
Sadly, 'Beneath' and 'Escape from the Planet of the Apes' have now been added to the list. I weep for my lost youth.
-Ralph
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Apr 17, 2008 10:35:38 GMT
I've been avoiding watching any of the Apes sequels as I know they can't fail but be disappointing. How do they measure up against each other though. Which is better Beneath or Escape? On the DVD of Planet of the Apes they pretty much say they think Escape was the better of the two.
Andy
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Post by The Doctor on Apr 17, 2008 11:11:24 GMT
They are both almost equally crap, though 'Escape' just edges ahead by virtue of the Dr Hasslein character and also whenever The Montalban is on screen (not much, sadly).
-Ralph
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Apr 17, 2008 11:17:15 GMT
Will you watch Conquest then? For more Montalban action!
Andy
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Post by The Doctor on Apr 17, 2008 11:18:49 GMT
I feel I must keep going until the bitter end, and because they are on my hard drive.
'Conquest' tonight.
-Ralph
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Apr 17, 2008 11:24:37 GMT
I watched the last one a year or so ago. It looked so cheap and was pants. I watched to the end though such was my love for the Apes films.
Andy
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Post by The Doctor on Apr 17, 2008 11:26:49 GMT
My love for the Apes films is being sorely tested!
-Ralph
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Apr 17, 2008 11:29:28 GMT
Watch the Tim Burton film to truly challenge your love of them!
Andy
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Post by The Doctor on Apr 17, 2008 12:24:31 GMT
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
-Ralph
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Post by Gav on Apr 17, 2008 13:56:50 GMT
FACE OFF!
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Post by dyrl on Apr 25, 2008 10:09:55 GMT
QUOTE: It could be worse. We could have Pat Lee posting messages on here.
Damn! They caught me!
But seriously....I'm not Pat Lee...although I would like to take a moment to consider something about Pat Lee (who is not me - really).
Ever wonder what Pat Lee thinks of Transformers now? I mean - like it or not - he was, or at least marketed himself as being a mega-TF-fan who wanted to do the comic "right" - ...
And not only did his company go bankrupt (so not just the TF comic, but the whole endeavor), and not just did he tank precisely at the moment when Transformers was turned into a worldwide mega-franchise thanks to the Movie (surely that helps the license owner), but the fanbase pretty much hates his gutts for Titty-Prime, all of those splash pages and very lame lame plots...
I wonder what he thinks of Transformers? Does he hate the franchise now? Has he started up a new company? Is he into some totally different business? Or maybe he is proud to have been a part of "official" TF history with his comics?
In any case - without Pat Lee we wouldn't have the Warwithin Series - so you have to give him kudos for that - I know he didn't write/draw it (although he did make up the Fallen) - but insofar as I think it's a great story (both WW and Dark Ages), the only reason it had a chance to be made was because of Pat Lee's Dreamwave...
on that note, I guess after all of the damage Pat Lee has done (to this day his damaging influence continues to be felt - notice how UGLY the Revoltech Transformers are...) ... I feel a glimmer of sympathy for him and desire to be thankful that he tried - it gave us WW and DA and that's good enough.
dyrl (who is not Pat Lee - really!)
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Post by The Doctor on Apr 25, 2008 21:48:30 GMT
While I think Pat Lee is a very mediocre artist who did very little on the page while others did the work and he took the credit and cash (look at ebay pages of his art for proof), my main problem with the man is the repeated number of times he has screwed over fellow professionals by not paying them, etc with no apparent remorse. I have no time for such behaviour.
-Ralph
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Post by karla on Apr 25, 2008 21:57:00 GMT
the land before time...........yep!
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Post by Shockprowl on Apr 26, 2008 6:50:27 GMT
While I think Pat Lee is a very mediocre artist who did very little on the page while others did the work and he took the credit and cash (look at ebay pages of his art for proof), my main problem with the man is the repeated number of times he has screwed over fellow professionals by not paying them, etc with no apparent remorse. I have no time for such behaviour. -Ralph Blimey, didn't know he was like that. What a swine.
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Post by legios on Apr 27, 2008 19:27:12 GMT
Ever wonder what Pat Lee thinks of Transformers now? Nope. Not in the slightest. I wonder how those folk who didn't receive monies for work done are doing. But I no more wonder what Pat Lee thinks of Transformers than I do what he thinks of Batman. Last I heard he was involved in trying to start something up somewhere in Asia (presumably where his reputation has not yet reached). I figure in the long run he will run out of parts of the world to work within the comics industry in and will have to start running his tax scam in real estate or sock manufacture or something. Karl
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2008 18:32:36 GMT
He has recently been drawing the covers for the Dynamite Terminator 2 comics thus aligning himself once more with Mr. Furman.
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