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Post by grahamthomson on Aug 26, 2009 11:49:28 GMT
Of the Transformers characters released as toys between 1984-1991, which had their alternate modes depicted differently from the toy version in their comic and/or cartoon appearances?
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Post by primenova on Aug 26, 2009 11:58:17 GMT
Jet Fire - [easy with it being in the ebay ad at the top of the web page while typing this]
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Post by blueshift on Aug 26, 2009 12:18:31 GMT
Cerebros in Rebirth turned into a computer/mini Fort Max rather than a head. Or he did that as well.
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Post by Nigel on Aug 26, 2009 12:40:18 GMT
Skids was drawn as a van. If you count Cybertronian forms, then there's Bumblebee, Jazz, Soundwave, Decepticon jets, various Mini Autobots and probably others that haven't sprung to mind.
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Post by Cullen on Aug 26, 2009 14:45:49 GMT
Blaster on Cybertron.
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Post by Nigel on Aug 26, 2009 14:56:19 GMT
Metroplex.
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Post by grahamthomson on Aug 26, 2009 17:38:15 GMT
Cybertronian modes of toys with Earth modes don't count.
And Metroplex is an incorrect answer, for obvious reasons.
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Post by The Doctor on Aug 26, 2009 17:38:35 GMT
Ratchet and Ironhide, mostly.
-Ralph
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Aug 26, 2009 17:52:08 GMT
I was about to contradict Ralph and say that their vehicle modes in comic and cartoon were pretty true-to-the-toy, but then it occurred to me, Graham said _alternate_ modes. What is the alternate mode of a machine with two or more forms?
I think we all know what Graham means, i.e. _not_ the form that is closest to humanoid (which would mean cassette mode for Ravage and Laserbeak, but lion and eagle mode for Razorclaw and Divebomb). But that is incredibly human-centric. Why should the Transformers consider the form closest to humanoid to be their primary form?
OK, to answer the question:
Soundwave in the US comics, 'cos they made him purple. And as Pete said, Jetfire.
Depends how detailed you want to go. You could argue that none of the representations were _identical_ to the toy.
Off-topic: What I always found bizarre was that they sometimes drew TFs who had no faces in toy form _with_ faces (e.g. Gears, Huffer, Hardhead), and drew other characters who _did_ have faces in toy form _without_ faces (e.g. Cerebros, Crosshairs, and Skids in 'Survivors').
Martin
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Post by grahamthomson on Aug 26, 2009 19:58:56 GMT
I always wondered about that. I think Superion had a mask in the cartoon, but a mouth as a toy.
Maybe it was to do with copyright reasons, or trading restrictions (you can't animate a toy, but you can a character based on a toy). Who knows, really!
Back on-topic: Yes, Soundwave is an answer I am looking for... but not because of the colour.
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Aug 26, 2009 20:04:23 GMT
Well, and because he transforms into a normal-sized cassette machine in the cartoon/comic (rather than a mini-cassette machine).
I suppose all the cassettes count too then.
Martin
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Post by Nigel on Aug 27, 2009 9:19:11 GMT
And Metroplex is an incorrect answer, for obvious reasons. I was thinking then, what's obvious? Then I remembered that he was depicted as being inside Autobot City rather than being Autobot City. D'oh!
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Post by blueshift on Aug 28, 2009 15:41:52 GMT
There was something very strange going on with Crossblades in Rhythms of Darkness. His alt mode was some sort of merger of his shell and inner vehicle mode but purely mechanical. Also looked nothing like either.
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