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Post by primenova on Dec 7, 2009 13:57:19 GMT
If you look back at these 2 series in the use of Optimus Prime.
He came back in his G1 form - But Hasbro got rid of him in the Movie [even though it was set in 2005] for the powermaster verison {they started work on the Movie back in 1984 with it being the first wave of Transformers made toys & not recolours - so the Powermasters must have been started on in 1987}
So could Hasbro of originally intending on reissueing the original toy - or that the people writing the cartoon where not given any information on the powermaster toy & the guys approving the cartoons didnt seem to think "oh we are releasing a new toy, should we get that in the cartoon"
Also if you look at the dates when the videos where released in the UK.
Headmasters was out either before xmas 1987 or april 1988. I can't remember which. Headmasters must have gone direct to video in the UK about the same time it was show on US TV.
[not sure on air dates - but series 3 should have been late 86 for US {it was only in the UK on video releases from 1988 onwards with the Ghost in the machine & fight or flee which where both repeated lots of times} seeing they had the Movie has summer release while we had it for Dec86. So series 4 must have been start of 87 airing]
While Return of Optimus Prime - which had PM Prime on the cover - was released [advert in Uk #181? Sept 88], so this was with the intent to tie in with the new toy release.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2009 15:50:20 GMT
According to the book Prime Targets the US broadcast dates were as follows:
Season 3:
The Five Faces of Darkness (5 episodes): Sept 15-19, 1986
The Killing Jar: Sept 29, 1986
Chaos: Sept 30, 1986
Dark Awakening: Oct 1, 1986 (also repeated before The Return of Optimus Prime)
Starscream's Ghost: Oct 2, 1986
Thief in the Night: Oct 6, 1986
Forever is a Long Time Coming: Oct 8, 1986
Surprise Party: Oct 9, 1986
Madman's Paradise: Oct 13, 1986
Carnage in C Minor: Oct 14, 1986
Fight or Flee: Oct 15, 1986
Webworld: Oct 20, 1986
Ghost in the Machine: Oct 21, 1986
The Dweller in the depths: Oct 30, 1986
Nightmare Planet: Oct 31, 1986
The Ultimate Weapon: Nov 10, 1986
The Quintesson Journal: Nov 11, 1986
The Big Broadcast of 2006: Nov 12, 1986
Only Human: Nov 13, 1986
Grimlock's New Brain: Nov 14, 1986
Money is Everything: Nov 17, 1986
Call of the Primitives: Nov 18, 1986
The Burden Hardest to Bear: Nov 19, 1986
The Face of the Nijika: Nov 20, 1986
The Return of Optimus Prime (2 episodes): Dec 2-3, 1986*
* The book claims the date for these episodes are Mar 2-3, 1986 but that has to be a print mistake as this doesn't make any sense.
Season 4:
The Rebirth (3 episodes): Nov 9-11, 1987
I hope that has cleared a few things up!
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Post by primenova on Dec 7, 2009 20:25:33 GMT
Anyone flicking over the back pages of UK comics - which issue was it that the Headmasters video was advertised? Sure it was before March 1988 when it was released in the UK. The Movie vhs was released during 88? was 88 when i first watched it.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2009 22:28:19 GMT
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Post by duffism1981 on Dec 7, 2009 22:54:02 GMT
An unrelated thought, but as you mentioned The Return of Optimus Prime, I had a thought. In that episode the women who rescues Prime's body, Jessica something or other, is paralised and the Autobots built some device to let her walk again yet didn't do they same thing for wheel chair bound Chip Chase?
Maybe he just didn't have the courage to try and stand on his own two feet.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2009 6:22:24 GMT
An unrelated thought, but as you mentioned The Return of Optimus Prime, I had a thought. In that episode the women who rescues Prime's body, Jessica something or other, is paralised and the Autobots built some device to let her walk again yet didn't do they same thing for wheel chair bound Chip Chase? Maybe he just didn't have the courage to try and stand on his own two feet. or maybe series 3 is set 20 years in the future, with developments from the autobots in place. we never see chip in the future |
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Post by primenova on Dec 8, 2009 8:10:20 GMT
Yes that's the advert - i'm sure it was printed in #130 - 170 [think about 153?] Might have been #141 - but we had the toys ads has a poster around this time too.
Anyone having a quick read of robocapers for 40 issues wanted to check which issue.
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Post by duffism1981 on Dec 8, 2009 10:13:56 GMT
An unrelated thought, but as you mentioned The Return of Optimus Prime, I had a thought. In that episode the women who rescues Prime's body, Jessica something or other, is paralised and the Autobots built some device to let her walk again yet didn't do they same thing for wheel chair bound Chip Chase? Maybe he just didn't have the courage to try and stand on his own two feet. or maybe series 3 is set 20 years in the future, with developments from the autobots in place. we never see chip in the future But the Transformers are an advanced race of intelligent robotic beings . Something like that should be simple for someone like Wheeljack and Ratchet to construct. I was just trying to make a point that has bugged me for years. Though I watched the last disc of season 3 and 4 last night, and my real grip in it is with the extras. Not so much the extras themselves, but the coverage of AA 2004. Five years after first seeing it I still get frustrated when the guy presenting the event calls introduces himself as Overlord. That's not your name, use your real name. You just embarrassed yourself. It's cringe worthy stuff. Saying that I bet that guy either posts here or is a friend to someone on here. Oh well grip over. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2009 11:29:29 GMT
Something like that should have been created for Chip Chase considering that Wheeljack could create the Dinobots and in the Marvel comics Circuit Breaker could create her own suit which allowed her to walk. But then there is the point of whether Chip wanted to part part of such an invention.
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Post by primenova on Dec 8, 2009 11:51:31 GMT
I'll have to re watch series 2. Cant remember the last time we see Chip. I know that he wasn't in many of the ones selected for UK VHS release back in the 80's. Think he was only in about 3 videos [Desertion Dinobots, Dino island, heavy metal wars]
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Post by duffism1981 on Dec 8, 2009 20:27:24 GMT
I believe that Megatron's Master Plan was the last appearance by our wheel chair bound friend. He seemed to become obsolete once Perceptor was introduced into the series.
I was bored last night which was why I mentioned it, but I suppose another way to look at the walking device would be if Wheeljack did build it, it would have most likely blown up and killed chip.
I don't believe that I have sat and watched all 98 episodes in a little over a week. It helped pass the time.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2009 6:37:29 GMT
or maybe series 3 is set 20 years in the future, with developments from the autobots in place. we never see chip in the future Though I watched the last disc of season 3 and 4 last night, and my real grip in it is with the extras. Not so much the extras themselves, but the coverage of AA 2004. Five years after first seeing it I still get frustrated when the guy presenting the event calls introduces himself as Overlord. That's not your name, use your real name. You just embarrassed yourself. It's cringe worthy stuff. Saying that I bet that guy either posts here or is a friend to someone on here. Oh well grip over. that bothered me a little too, I mean I introduced myself to a couple of friends online who I was meeting, and then we just called eachother by our real names I guess it was so people knew who in the online world he was |
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Post by duffism1981 on Dec 9, 2009 6:57:41 GMT
It would have been perfectly fine if his introduction was along the lines of "Hello, my name is Omar (what ever his surname was). Some of you may know me as Overlord on (website he mentioned)."
I think the Metrodome staffers were also embarrassed so had to add the aka Omar (his surname) on to the on screen graphic.
Moments like this don't help with the stereotype of sci-fi type fans.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2009 8:06:21 GMT
It would have been perfectly fine if his introduction was along the lines of "Hello, my name is Omar (what ever his surname was). Some of you may know me as Overlord on (website he mentioned)." I think the Metrodome staffers were also embarrassed so had to add the aka Omar (his surname) on to the on screen graphic. Moments like this don't help with the stereotype of sci-fi type fans. Stereotype: My name is Francis, but you may call me Graetheal the Mecha Dragon Master Me: I don't think so |
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Post by chrisl on Dec 9, 2009 12:23:56 GMT
That is EXACTLY the same reaction I have in that situation.
Although depending on my mood I may offer the alternate response of: "My name is Chris, but you may call me "That guy who said I was a complete tool".
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Post by primenova on Jan 22, 2023 20:03:01 GMT
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Post by KnightBeat on Jan 22, 2023 23:44:54 GMT
I recall negative comments about it at the time. Perhaps it was on the old forum and hasn't been preserved for posterity (thank goodness!) TFWiki claims it was provided with the series 2 part 2 box, though I can't recall owning this comic. I'll have to find the discs in the loft. |
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Jan 23, 2023 0:13:48 GMT
Everywhere had negative comments about it.
Absolutely dreadful.
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Post by The Doctor on Jan 23, 2023 9:29:40 GMT
THE BEAST.
-Ralph
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Post by Bogatan on Jan 23, 2023 17:59:59 GMT
Was that the US or UK season 2 part 2?
Ive seen screencaps of it but dont think Ive ever seen the actual comic.
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Post by Benn on Jan 23, 2023 18:52:29 GMT
Yeah, I think it was split across two boxsets. I know I've got one part of it around here.
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Post by The Doctor on Jan 23, 2023 20:59:58 GMT
Was that the US or UK season 2 part 2? Ive seen screencaps of it but dont think Ive ever seen the actual comic. UK. -Ralph |
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Post by KnightBeat on Apr 13, 2023 19:12:56 GMT
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Apr 13, 2023 21:43:17 GMT
I think he's disabled embedding on this video.
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