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Post by Stomski on Feb 11, 2010 16:51:39 GMT
Now, St. Valentine's Day as we know is all about the ladies, hence the creation of Steak and Blowjob Day.
But I've been to enough weddings now and talked to enough people going through the arrangements to start to think that weddings are pretty orientated around the woman too.
Men choosing the suits - yup, looks smart, let's go. Woman - OHMYGODDRESSHASTOBEPERFECTGOTTOLOSETENPOUNDSTOLOOKMYBESTHOWSHALLIWEARMYHAIRTOGOWITHITWHATISTHEDEALWITHAIRPLANEFOODIAMSOFATANDUGLYNOYOURENOTDEARYOULOOKBEAUTIFULALTHOUGHPERSONALLYITHINKYOUCANTPOLISHATURDBACKONTRACKNOWWHATWILLTHEBRIDESMAIDSWEARTHEYBETTERNOTLOOKBETTERTHANMEETCETECETC.
I mean, when was the last time a man wanted so many frickkin' flowers around? Never, that's when.
Also, why do you need to spend so much money on wedding days?? Surely the important thing is celebrating two people coming together and the commitment that they are making. That's not something in my mind that should cost £20k.
This is all probably because all my friends are getting married and I'm happy to remain living in sin, but that's because I'm evil and going to hell, allegedly.
Discuss.
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Feb 11, 2010 18:06:20 GMT
Funnily enough, my sister's boyfriend proposed to her last Saturday. (It was her birthday.) He's got style - he phoned my parents first to ask my dad's permission!
They're already living together, mind you. Anyway, he's a top bloke so we're all pleased. But of course immediately a hundred worries suddenly materialise about wedding arrangements. It's a year off, but the tensions have already arisen (mainly mother/daughter tensions) about where/what/how/who/when/why/wherefore/argh.
As far as I'm concerned, most of a wedding is just window-dressing. Only the vows and the marriage itself are important in my mind.
Martin
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Post by The Doctor on Feb 11, 2010 18:35:58 GMT
Agreed.
-Ralph
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Post by chrisl on Feb 12, 2010 13:35:15 GMT
I'm getting married on March 27th!
The man's role in most of the wedding plans should be the voice of reason / saying "No - it's too expensive" lol.
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Feb 12, 2010 18:29:54 GMT
Congratulations, mate!
You could try "Don't throw away the children's inheritance on a party," but then I don't know how much you've discussed the c-word with your missus. That could be opening a whole 'nother can of worms.
Martin
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2010 21:01:54 GMT
What makes me laugh is that woman dream of having a church wedding regardless of whether they are religious or not. They don't seem to see church weddings in the same way as people like fellow Hubber Ken does but rather see them as an event. My parents got married in a registry office back in the early 70's - they weren't interested in all of this white dress stuff because they weren't religious and they had no intention of being religious for a few minutes just to get married. A friend of mine is getting married sometime soon and they are going to have a church wedding despite not being religious and he's having to go to church once a week for about six months just so that he can get married in a church. After that it will all be back to normal.
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Post by Stomski on Feb 15, 2010 11:46:01 GMT
I'm getting married on March 27th! Congratulations! Don't get me wrong, I believe in marriage and the celebration of two people's commitment to each other. Wait- are you sort of agreeing with me? Best not let the missus see...
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Post by dinogrrl on Feb 16, 2010 5:14:06 GMT
I'm not the slightest bit interested in marriage, so even less in weddings. But it's a huge social pressure on women that THAT DAY be picture perfect like a princess' story. Like you're some sort of sad sack if all you do is pop down to the registrar and sign a few papers. Look at all those wedding magazines, the crap on tv, the bloody Valentines' Day ads. They all reinforce stereotypes that both genders buy into.
In any case, congrats for March 27th, chrisl!
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Post by chrisl on Feb 16, 2010 10:52:16 GMT
We didn't go for the "fairytale wedding nonsense" - we're keeping things quite simple at a hotel by the side of Lake Windermere (purely so the pictures and the food are nice), with mainly friends attending. Reasonable budget but very classy and understated. Less is more. I think the only extravagant thing we have paid for is the photographer and our only diva demand was that the entire day is 100% vegetarian.
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Post by The Doctor on Feb 16, 2010 19:30:05 GMT
I've always maintained that if I ever got married it would be in a location with a bit of novelty, my top two choices being a hot air balloon or a submarine and I mean that in all seriousness. Someone who didn't want to have a sense of humour about their wedding day is not someone I'd want to get married to! As an atheist, I would find it too hypocritical of me to get married at a place of worship. Feels disrespectful to me.
-Ralph
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Post by dinogrrl on Feb 17, 2010 4:57:15 GMT
That sounds like a nice arrangement you have going there chrisl.
Heh, I remember the son of one of my Mum's friends married a Greek girl - he had seven people to invite, all family and couple of close friends. She had ~350 people on her side. No kidding.
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Post by Shockprowl on Mar 6, 2010 20:20:08 GMT
Many Congrats, chrisl!!!!!
And congrats to Stomski for that opening post, I've exalted you for it sir! (Blowjob day!!!! HHHHAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!)
Late catching up to this thread, but, for what it's worth, my views are Marrage is great (with the right person obviously), and should be encouraged. Not sure it makes much difference to wether or not folkes stay together, divorce seems to be fairly easy, but It's great to stand up and be counted!
There is an incredible amount of pressure to getting it right, and I don't think there's any escaping that. It's a big day. Even if you play it coolio, it's still a fairly big day, although there are tons of ways you can keep it low-key. One thing I don't agree on is spending bazillions of squids on a wedding. You can have a pretty impressive do for 3 to 5 grand, including the dress. Absolutely no reason to blow thousands and thousands (20K!!!) on one day. Spend it on a house or something! Ultimately though, it is the Bride who is the centre of the affair, it's her fairytale, and that's how it should be. Embrace the differencies between the sexes. A chaps function should be to support his intended, and allow her to have the wedding she wants, but keeping a level head, keep the squids under control, and make sure he turns up sobber (ish).
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Post by blueshift on Mar 6, 2010 20:22:59 GMT
One thing I don't agree on is spending bazillions of squids on a wedding. You can have a pretty impressive do for 3 to 5 grand, including the dress. Absolutely no reason to blow thousands and thousands (20K!!!) on one day. Spend it on a house or something! Absolutely! This is currently a hot topic at work since one of my colleague got married last week and another got engaged. I was called tight for daring to claim that spending £1,000 on a cake was excessive...
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Post by Stomski on Mar 8, 2010 11:08:11 GMT
Ultimately though, it is the Bride who is the centre of the affair, it's her fairytale, and that's how it should be. And this is my problem with wedding expectations!! They should be about celebrating the love and commitment that two people have, not some idealised fantasy day in the eyes of just one of the two involved.
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Post by chrisl on Mar 15, 2010 22:14:23 GMT
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Post by Shockprowl on Apr 8, 2010 11:39:13 GMT
How did the wedding go, Chris?!
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Post by chrisl on Apr 23, 2010 23:06:28 GMT
Everything went great Attachments:
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Post by Shockprowl on Apr 30, 2010 18:50:32 GMT
Looks lovely! Great figure, nice hair. Glowing, infact.
That girl you're with's not bad lookin' neither.
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Post by dyrl on Jul 2, 2010 8:45:32 GMT
Regarding Valentines Day: I personally "hate" valentines day - obvioulsy only in jest... but the reason is that every single Valentines day....on the one day in the year when it should just be about ME...it's about women.
Valentines day is my birthday - but I never really get to celebrate it because if, as is usually the case, I have a girlfriend - then it's all about her. And this isn't her fault, mind you - but it's mine. I just don't feel right if a girl doesn't get treated and doesn't get a gift for valentines... and sure...I get a birthday present... but generally the day...like just about every other day in a relationship...is all about her :-)
As for weddings...
Given that the last two girlfriends I had were both married and in the process of getting a divorce - the wedding issue has always been somewhat ellusive at best.
My current girlfriend is divorced, and she's working on getting a Catholic wedding anulment. If she succeeds - I think there might be a Catholic wedding in my future.
If she fails - then it's going to be tough.
Me being a somewhat "Protestant Catholic" - it's really all the same to me. I like the Catholic Church, but I feel it is one of many possibilities - it's just the one which I have always liked the most. Having been baptized Catholic kind of makes it all easier. That said, I've attended churches of various denominations and would have nothing against being married in a Protestant church.
Of course - the easiest thing would be to find a girl who hasn't ever been married or at the very least has been long divorced. Why I keep landing girls who are in the process of getting divorced or still have some loose post-divorce ends...beats me :-0
From that point of view - I worry not so much about weddings but about divorces. Observing all my girlfriends and all their struggles with messy divorces I am certainly NOT EVER going to get married without a pre-nuptul agreement that specifices who gets what in case of divorce.
As for weddings themselves - I was once at a wedding and it was swell. Lots of food and alcohol nad good fun. I agree the bloody things needn't be extremely expensive (unless the parents want to pay - then have at ;-) )
Anyways...yeah...
good subject.
Pete
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Post by legios on Jul 2, 2010 11:09:13 GMT
I have a soft spot for weddings in theory but am also somewhat equivocal about marriage. The soft spot comes partly from the fact that it was at a friends wedding that I met my last girlfriend (she was my friends bridesmaid and I kind of fell head over heels for her), and partly because there is a part of me that is a little bit of a (well-concealed and suppressed) romantic. Some part of me likes the whole "flowers, holding hands in public" malarkey.
On the other hand the girlfriend mentioned above was separated and in the process of waiting for a divorce, my mother is a divorcee, and I have seen a large number of ill-conceived marriages self-destruct with impressive fall-out.
For the record though, Valentines Day is - to me - nonsense. I don't see the point in doing something romantic for ones partner on a special prescribed day when society tells you to. Better to do something sweet to surprise them at other, completely random, times.
But then, I am generally opposed to socially imposed feelings in general - the tyranny of having specific days when one is required to be happy or romantic or whatever annoys me.
Karl
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Post by karla on Jul 12, 2010 22:27:04 GMT
Never really thought about marriage, except the fact that I'll make the dress! Don't care where the actual ceremony is, could be by the sea, in the rain or at night (but space would be awesome) just as long as I can make the dress.
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Jul 13, 2010 4:43:53 GMT
Never really thought about marriage, except the fact that I'll make the dress! Don't care where the actual ceremony is, could be by the sea, in the rain or at night (but space would be awesome) just as long as I can make the dress. But what if the man wants to impress And has _his_ heart set on making the dress? Millions of weddings every year Are cancelled due to this point here. Martin
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Jul 13, 2010 14:45:56 GMT
I'd hate to think that you were without data, Or that your statistics were from some faker!
Marriage would still be good I think, But chances are draining down the sink.
Have done the whole VD event Cards, flowers and chocolates sent.
But am starting to agree with Karl that its a bore but not deserving of a snarl.
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Jul 14, 2010 6:36:22 GMT
I'd hate to think that you were without data, Or that your statistics were from some faker! Marriage would still be good I think, But chances are draining down the sink. Have done the whole VD event Cards, flowers and chocolates sent. But am starting to agree with Karl that its a bore but not deserving of a snarl. Gavin, I think your big mistake Was the 'VD event' - a strange course to take. Women love cards, chocolates and flowers, But VD's a turn-off, by the powers! Martin
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Jul 14, 2010 9:46:48 GMT
Gosh, I think your right! A totally unintentional blight!
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Post by The Doctor on Jul 14, 2010 11:50:52 GMT
But better than gonorrhea, You don't want that I fear!
-Ralph
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Post by Shockprowl on Jul 14, 2010 19:09:18 GMT
There's nothin' worse than the itches, to put off lovin' from the bitches.
(sorry)
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Post by Stomski on Aug 5, 2010 9:58:54 GMT
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Post by The Doctor on Aug 5, 2010 11:31:03 GMT
I'd like to see someone's wedding cost £200 rather than £20,000!
I can't help but feel that folk who spend enormous amounts of money on Day 1 of their marriage are missing the point in a rather spectacular manner.
-Ralph
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Post by blueshift on Aug 5, 2010 11:44:39 GMT
All the ladies at work called me tight when I dared to question why a Wedding cake should cost £1000
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