BOTCON repaints

[primenova]

This should get a few people picking toys out to be repainted. Seeing we don't really like that much the ones they have done. With you being limited to having the new or used characters for each year - which toys would you use?

You can pick any Hasbro / Takara Transformers toy released 1984 - sept 2010. So if you think a ROTF toy would make a good 1994 Breakdown toy, you can say Hasbro just happened to have a time rift in their HQ.

Non-TF stuff not allowed - so those Rumble, Magnus armour, Springer one, swindle/blastoff etc.

For BOTCON / TFCC convention only - can anyone list all the characters, i'm sure we had them for the following years
94 Breakdown G2
97 BW
98 BW
99
00
01
02
03
04
05 Ironhide, Ratchet
06
07
08
09 Kup,
10 Pyro, Skybyte, Glench, Breakdown, streetstar, rapido, slice, gnaw, double punch, scorch, ravage

[Bogatan]

94 Breakdown G2
95 Nightracer
96 Onxy Primal
97 BW Fractyl and Packrat
98 BW Vicegrip and Anatgony
98 Bearbarian and Doublepunch
99 Windrazor and Sandstorm
00 Apelinq and Shokaract
01 Tigertron and Arcee
02 Tap out, Glyph, Catscan and Cyclonus
02 Rook
03 Sideswipe, Sunstreaker, Roulette and Shadow Striker
04 Actionamster Breakdown
04 Megazarek and Sentinel Maximus
05 Deathsaurus, Fallback, Ricochet, Ironhide, Dirge, Buzzclaw, Chromia, Ratchet, Flare Up, Flamewar and Virulent Clones.
06 Optimus Primal, Rattrap, Rhinox, Cheetor, Dinobot, Tigertron, Megatron, Laserbeak, Buzzsaw, Waspinator.
07 Dreadwind, Bugbite, Thudnercracker, Dirge, Thrust, Springer, Mirage, Huffer, Weirdwolf, Alpha Trion.
08Optimus Prime, Jazz, Bumblebee, Grimlock, Starscream, Megatron, Rodimus, Sideswipe, Blur and the 3 minicons.
09 Kup, Thunderclash, Flak, Landshark, Scourge, Skyquake, Leozack, Banzai Tron, Razorclaw, Elita 1 and Sweeps.
10 Pyro, Skybyte, Clench, Breakdown, streetstar, rapido, slice, gnaw, double punch, scorch, ravage, Cindersaur and Sharkticons.

[Bogatan]

Of those, new characters I wouldn't mess with. G2 Breakdown too. 2001 -2003 are great.

Retrospectively I suppose the entire 2003 set I could prefer as the Universe Sideswipe mould though that would make the first two redundant so replace them with ehobby repaints. Or not.

Most of my changes would come after FP took over. Every set has some G1 thrown in that I question a little. Ironhide and Ratchet came before classics so at the time made sense, ditto Laserbeak and Buzzsaw and the jets, springer in the next 2 sets. But by 2008 classics and universe were clearly a perminant fixture so FP should have backed off the most well known G1 elements. Instead they have seemed obsessed with filling in the movie/season 3 cast along with other cartoon only characters. As a result we now have Botcon and retail versions of
Ironhide
Ratchet
Springer
Huffer
Dirge
Thrust
Mirage
Blur
Jazz -ok SG technicall all have classic versions but these jazz particularly seem to have been designed with the intention of working as standard G1 at least from a distance. They could have had more intersting SG versions.
Kup
Scourge
and Sweeps almost certainly.

Beyond that Thunderclash I would change because everything is wrong about it in every conceivable way. The enrgon Landmine mould or the classic Prime mould would have made far more impressive versions but even the Rodimus mould could have been much better with different colours and a different layout. Beyond my other reason Kup too should not have been done it just is the worst choce of repaint I can think off. Even with the great new head it doesn't look a thing like Kup.

Andy

[The Doctor]

I have the Botcon Thunderclash as a stand-in as my original which was shattered beneath the lurgy of GPS. It's ok, but I'd prefer something, well, better! The mould used is a bit crap.

-Ralph

[primenova]

I dont like the Scourge repaint - Cybertron Sidesways should have been Ratbat. The mode is like Scourge but Hasbro could have saved money & not bother remodelling the head.

[blueshift]

Sept 29, 2010 11:54:44 GMT primenova said:

I dont like the Scourge repaint - Cybertron Sidesways should have been Ratbat. The mode is like Scourge but Hasbro could have saved money & not bother remodelling the head.

We've already had a Ratbat in that mold though, ine the US comic 2-packs!

[The Doctor]

Yes, it's very nice and suits the character amazingly well.

-Ralph

[Philip Ayres]

TFU Ratbat. These sets never made it to the UK. BOO!

[The Doctor]

A crying shame. They were nifty. I would have liked to have seen more comic 2-packs too.

-Ralph

[Philip Ayres]

Oh yeah. Would love these two 2 packs - Springer vs Ratbat and Roadbuster vs Dirge.

License to print money these were. Madness they went so quick.

[The Doctor]

I was only able to get them as Nick was in the states at the time and found some.

-Ralph

[Philip Ayres]

$50 each at BBTS. No thank you.

[kayevcee]

Can't remember what I paid. $35 each, maybe? That was at Botcon right enough, but they were available for retail at the time. 50 isn't too bad I reckon. He said from a country that has exactly 3 TFs for sale in one shop. Perhaps I'm in withdrawl.

-Nick

[Philip Ayres]

£35 sounds about right. $10 toy + $20 toy + comic book + exclusiveness. Stop it, you'll talk me into buying them. BBTS have had £50 off me for repaints already this weeks.

[The Doctor]

I don't usually type this, but the BBTS price is actually quite reasonable. Just look at what they go for on Ebay.

-Ralph

[Philip Ayres]

Sept 29, 2010 21:20:18 GMT The Doctor said:

I don't usually type this, but the BBTS price is actually quite reasonable. Just look at what they go for on Ebay.

-Ralph

I did. I've found a £23 set of each and am enquiring about combined postage ! By my reckoning $50 at BBTS is currently £32

[The Doctor]

That's a turn-up for the books. They were going for silly money for a while there.

-Ralph

[primenova]

I'd only seen the RB/Dirge one before