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Post by The Doctor on Sept 29, 2010 13:18:00 GMT
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Post by legios on Oct 1, 2010 20:44:54 GMT
An interesting article there. I do think that there is something in the fact that we have tended in recent years to pathologise perfectly natural negative emotions. Some experiences are unpleasant and cause us emotional pain. This does not mean that this reaction is in itself unadaptive. Some classes of events will make us unhappy, and the nature of life is that we are not guaranteed happiness every moment of every single day.
I do think there has been a movement towards the idea that if one is unhappy then there must be something wrong that needs to be treated. I'm not sure that this outlook isn't in itself slightly pathological.
Karl
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Post by kayevcee on Nov 1, 2010 8:29:58 GMT
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Post by Shockprowl on Nov 12, 2010 20:15:04 GMT
You've hit the preverbial there, Karlos. Being out there at the rough end, more and more we see folks with mental health issues. But its those people who hide behind 'depression' that I have problems with. From my observations, when people are going through a rough time, they almost expect themselves to be suffering from depression etc, some, and I have no scientific data to back this up, it's just my opinion, even wish to be classified as 'depressed' because it gives them an excuse. An excuse to not have to face up to and attempt to deal with their problem. "I can't deal with all this 'cos I'm depressed". This, sadly, is an insult to those who actual do suffer from some sort of depression and who generally do need help. The report made me think of this. People using depression as an excuse to not face up to their problems.
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Jun 14, 2012 11:35:06 GMT
Today I had to see my g.p. and speak about my ongoing situation. I won't go into details but suffice it to say for the last six/seven months I have not been having a good time of it. Work days have consisted of, getting up, lying down, going to work, coming home, eating sometimes and lying in bed unable to sleep. Suffice it to say Hub pals and jaunts have pretty much held back the tide for a while and many thanks to you all.
It has to be the most difficult thing I think I have ever done. In the waiting room I was fighting back tears and almost ran away three times, and moments away from my first ever panic attack. Not a great experience.
The conversation was pretty difficult to start with, but easy enough as my g.p. is pretty good. Hopefully the first step to getting everything sorted and me back to my usual.
Andy
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Jun 14, 2012 17:30:57 GMT
Crikey, I had no idea. Sorry, Andy. Hope you get back to your normal self sharpish.
Martin
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Post by blueshift on Jun 14, 2012 17:55:46 GMT
Oh Andy, best wishes from me too D: D: D:
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Post by Benn on Jun 14, 2012 18:22:22 GMT
Thoughts your way Andy.
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Jun 14, 2012 18:28:42 GMT
Many thanks guys.
Greatly appreciated.
Andy
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Post by Hero on Jun 15, 2012 9:28:47 GMT
Thoughts and channeling your way, Andy.
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Jun 15, 2012 14:10:27 GMT
Cheers Ken.
Andy
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Post by Shockprowl on Jun 24, 2012 17:38:18 GMT
You're on the road to recovery now, And. Very brave to take that first step. All the best.
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Post by The Doctor on Sept 6, 2012 18:35:10 GMT
I was off work for a month recently due to a heavy depression. It had been building for a while, exacerbated by stress, and I had mostly been ignoring it due to a general propensity to negative thoughts/feelings since my mid-teens (had big problems with it in my late teens/early 20's in particular). Thankfully, I was able to get some good advice from a very helpful GP and am working to turn things around.
That's as much detail as I'll go into online, but the lesson here is that sometimes we all need to slow down for a bit and see what state we're working ourselves into. Nowt wrong with getting off the rollercoaster of modern life for a bit to get things sorted before a moderate problem becomes a severe one.
-Ralph
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Post by Marc Graham on Sept 7, 2012 18:29:15 GMT
Glad to hear things are on the up for you Ralph, depression is a serious problem that doesn't get any better by ignoring it - so good to hear you are looking after yourself.
Marc.
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Post by The Doctor on Sept 7, 2012 19:03:05 GMT
It has at least prompted an increase in my levels of exercise with the unintended side effect of losing the spare tyre I had been putting on! I only really noticed this morning when putting on an old t-shirt and it was feeling baggier than I remembered.
-Ralph
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Post by Philip Ayres on Sept 7, 2012 19:17:58 GMT
I know I feel better in my head on the days where I do get some exercise.
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Post by kayevcee on Sept 25, 2012 5:04:33 GMT
This excerpt from a new book about the global pharmaceutical industry is a lengthy but worthwhile read. It starts off discussing a new type of antidepressant before branching out in some startling directions. Brace yourselves.-Nick |
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Sept 25, 2012 14:06:41 GMT
Yep, drug studies and meta-studies being skewed by 'missing' data is a well known problem in biomedical academic circles and there is much discussion on what to do about it. Meta-studies that factor in such data and show a truer picture than a single study are the way to go.
Unfortunately too much of that missing data is often unpublished as journals view it as 'negative' data and hey who wants something showing something doesn't work in their pricey, respected journal? And the rest tends to be company owned which is an increasingly big problem in an era and country where government keeps pushing academic/industrial partnership as the way to go.
And then frankly, so much missing/negative data is the product of badly conducted trials and experiments that academics themselves would be embarrassed or unable to publish because of the poor quality of experimental methodology and/or reliability of results.
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Post by kayevcee on Sept 25, 2012 15:13:49 GMT
If only there were some sort of review process where a research group's peers could look at their results and make a decision about whether they are valid in an unbiased or "double-blind" way. That seems like it could work.
-Nick
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Post by The Doctor on Sept 25, 2012 18:13:14 GMT
Nothing in that article I didn't already know, but it still raises an eyebrow.
-Ralph
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Post by legios on Sept 25, 2012 19:12:51 GMT
Indeed. It does serve as a good primer on the ....issues.... that can be involved with clinical trial data and the problems with actually making an informed choice when it comes to these things. (If a given GP believes in his patients making an informed choice - I have had one or two whose attitude was "I am prescribing these tablets, don't ask me any questions about them just do as you are told and take them".)
Karl
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Post by Marc Graham on Sept 29, 2012 10:39:08 GMT
To take the thread in a slightly different direction, recent outings have convinced me that I would actually like to be in a relationship to be happy. Not going to happen overnight or without making the effort, so I've signed up to a dating site recommended by friends/family and I'm trying to keep optimistic despite a far from perfect start.
Everyone needs goals I guess.
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Post by Jim on Sept 29, 2012 18:24:53 GMT
Best of luck! My brother found his fiancée this way, and I know a few success stories. A couple of horror stories as well, but overall positive!
-Jim
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Post by Philip Ayres on Sept 29, 2012 19:43:26 GMT
That's how I met Liz
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Post by Marc Graham on Sept 29, 2012 20:09:14 GMT
Week 1 finishes with: Lets just be friends. I won't lie I've heard that one before.
I shall fend onwards to week two - once I work up the nerve at least...
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Oct 2, 2012 20:53:41 GMT
Well I hope it works for you. It's something I will look into later on, but my priority now is getting a job. Started to feel the gremlins tonight, so a slew of applications put paid to them. Getting easier to spot the signs of when I might be falling back into old ways and then try and do something about it. Like Ralph, I find that exercise does help, even if it is only an hour or so with the dog, but it does make a difference.
Despite my generally laid back demeanour I've always been one of life's worriers, and the no job thing is not great, but I know had I not jumped, I'd either be sacked or mentally in a much worse position than I am in now.
Andy
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Post by Marc Graham on Oct 3, 2012 19:29:21 GMT
Wishing you the best of luck Andy. I've decided to take a break for a few days after a week of internet dating, its fairly disheartening to get a lot of rejection, but if you never try you never know. I was incredibly amused last night to signup to match.com and discover one of my first matches was a former work colleague, most amusing. I find it good to share stuff that bugs you with others if possible as I'm pretty open, if any hubber ever just wants to chat about something in life feel free to drop me a line - I love you all (platonically guys!)  Marc. |
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Post by The Doctor on Oct 3, 2012 20:33:29 GMT
I tried online dating and it just wasn't for me, but best if luck with it.
-Ralph
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Post by Marc Graham on Oct 5, 2012 15:46:53 GMT
I was using plenty of fish at the advice of some friends, but was having absolutely no luck, so I opted for Match.com thinking it would be more sophisticated - one of the first set of 6 daily matches is a former work colleague..... (oh dear!)
Thats oh dear from her point of view because I'm awesome and asked her out (yet to get a reply).
Sometimes I question my sanity, but you only live once!
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Post by Marc Graham on Oct 9, 2012 7:11:35 GMT
So, in exciting news I've decided that exercising more will be a useful tool is releasing stress, improving health, confidence and hopefully mood. Not that I'm striking out like Michael Jordan on his baseball career - no sir! |
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