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Post by blueshift on Oct 6, 2011 7:29:52 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2011 7:39:47 GMT
I know I'll be rounded on for this, but when was taking other peoples ideas and shoving them into a smaller box considered visionary?
I've seen everywhere today how he changed the world, how we wouldn't cope today without his influence. Well I live and cope perfectly well without any Apple products, and was perfectly happy buying my music from a record store.
Since the introduction of iTunes I havn't bought a single music track off the internet and yet I still listen to new releases, go figure.
Yes it is sad the guy has died, I'm sure there are a lot of his family and close friends who know him just as that and not as some fake messiah and it's those people my thoughts would got out to.
I just hope that following the less than enthusiastic response to the 4S reveal and now this that Apple starts to fall back into it's niche underdog role that it's supporters jumped on the back of.
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Post by Bogatan on Oct 6, 2011 9:58:18 GMT
I guess most people considered visionaries are only building on someone elses work. In Jobs case its been his/Apples ability to make people want something they didn't before. Tablet computers have been around forever without finding a market. Before that especially in America Smart phones where no where till the Iphone.
Whether it was in marketing, timing, visual aesthetics, interface or the technological, somewhere in that mix I think there was some visionary stuff going on.
For me though all of that is irrelevant as I've had very little interest in it all, I got a Mac for work and a smart phone that was probably somewhat inspired by the iphone.
But he did cofound Pixar which really has had an impact. Admittedly it also resulted in Shrek and too many other poor copies, but Pixars approach and out put have been fantastic.
Pixar and visionary for me go together perfectly so it is a term I'm willing to use about Jobs even though I do largely agree with your views.
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Oct 6, 2011 15:30:55 GMT
I know I'll be rounded on for this Hopefully not, this is the exchange-of-honest-opinions-on-serious-topics bit of the forum. I don't have an i-anything (I don't have a mobile phone full stop) and I was fairly indifferent to Jobs' contribution to society until I learnt just now that he cofounded Pixar, whose animation I find quite soulless compared to the hand-drawn animation it displaced. But that's personal taste. The products he marketed (whether he invented them or not) clearly have helped shape the last decade. Martin |
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Post by Philip Ayres on Oct 6, 2011 16:52:23 GMT
Spun off to it's own thread since it doesn't really fit the humourous tone of the Top News Story thread
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Post by Hero on Oct 6, 2011 19:35:39 GMT
I never saw that coming. Watched Steve Jobs on TV only a couple of days ago in regards to stepping down his position at Apple. Quite a legacy left there.
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Post by legios on Oct 6, 2011 20:14:20 GMT
Jobs had been fighting pancreatic cancer for a while now, and hadn't been a well man at all since some time last year.
As a business strategists he was a talented individual - it is one thing to fight for a part of an existing market share pie, but under his leadership Apple had a tendency to go out and create new markets where they didn't really exist before. I've a lot of time for Jobs as a person, and as a figure within the industry to be honest. I think that the technology industry is the poorer for the lack of him.
(in the interests of full disclosure, I am typing this on a secondhand Mac whilst my wintel laptop is sat on the desk next to me undergoing its regular diagnostic and security cycle, so I'm fairly even-handed when it comes to platforms.)
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