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Post by Philip Ayres on Oct 3, 2012 9:05:40 GMT
Best modern who series....
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Post by blueshift on Oct 3, 2012 9:30:47 GMT
Oh series 5, definately. The only duffer there is the Silurian 2-parter, and even then it's not terrible, just a bit unoriginal. Really interesting arc story without obstructing the individual stories (it's more an arc of ideas than events) and an excellent finale. It's actually about something.
Series 4 probably comes a close second for me. Not nearly as clever, but mad fun.
(The Specials season would win but i think that's cheating since there were so few, but Planet of the Dead scuppers any chance and renders it 3/4 excellent, 1/4 utter rubbish).
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Post by Jim on Oct 3, 2012 10:43:57 GMT
I haven't kept up with the Moffat era very well, could do with a catch-up, but I loved Eccleston as the Doctor and that first series had some nice moments, though I found the climax a bit silly (and in hindsight it was a forewarning about RTD's approach to SF) and the Bad Wolf reveal a let-down.
"Lots of planets have a North". Excellent.
-Jim
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Post by The Doctor on Oct 3, 2012 18:07:53 GMT
Mmmm, it's a close three-way tie between the 9th Doc series, the 10th's 2nd and the 11th Doc's 1st. Depends when you ask me. Today, 11th Doc's 1st just pips it because Amy Pond is filthy all the way through before she became married and less interesting and less filthy.
-Ralph
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Oct 3, 2012 18:50:19 GMT
Pretty much my thoughts exactly Ralph.
Andy
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Post by Toph on Oct 4, 2012 19:57:08 GMT
Usually it's season 6 for me. it feeds of of five so well, and builds so much... plus, who doesn't love the doctor's wife episode? And the Silence are like, the scariest thing ever.
All seasons are close together.
So in order for me, favorite to least:
6
5
4
3
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1
7
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Post by legios on Oct 4, 2012 20:19:47 GMT
Ecclestone takes this one for me. Mostly because it has my favourite new series Doctor in it. (That's right, mine is the heretical view that I like Ecclestone better than Matt Smith). I do have other seasons that narrowly trail it, but in terms of an overall favourite I would have to go for that one by a head.
Karl
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Post by Jim on Oct 4, 2012 21:08:07 GMT
That's because Eccleston is easily the most interesting of the modern Doctors, even if he didn't quite get his chance to really show us what he could do. He was the most different choice in terms of actor and character - I can't help but feel Tennant and Smith are "safer" Doctors, playing up the eccentricity and down the darkness, playing a bit more to what the public expect.
Also, a Northerner!
-Jim
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Post by Dave on Oct 5, 2012 10:29:58 GMT
When we get the rest of series 7, my opinion may change, but for now I've preferred the other Matt Smith seasons. My favourite series so far is a toss up between 5 and 6. Today I voted 6, just because.
That said, despite some duff finales, Xmas specials and the odd episode here and there I've liked all of the seasons overall (not a fan of the Tennant specials though).
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Oct 5, 2012 18:32:40 GMT
I think we can all agree the Tennant Specials were not quite as good as they could have been!
Andy
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Post by Toph on Oct 5, 2012 22:32:12 GMT
I liked the first tennant special because I absolutely love Donna. Until the Ponds, she was my favorite companion.
And I liked the second special, with the flying titanic because... well, I thought it hit all the right halmarks for 10. Funny, fun, sad, and sentamental all at the same time. Planet of the Dead was... okay. Wasn't great, but wasn't bad. Honestly, it was the girl who made that one. She'd have made a fun companion.
The Next Doctor was just bland, and I think only exists as a trojan horse since the fans all knew Tennent was leaving.
Waters of Mars was meh. Got good at the end, and did a great job of showing why the Doctor needed a companion, but over all silly concept.
End of Time was just outright weird. Decent ending, but everything else about it was outright weird.
Even still, I have a soft spot for the specials, because BBCA edits the hell out of Doctor Who here. Not for content, but for commercials, so we lose a good 15-20 minutes out of each episode. The specials are the only ones in the Tennent Era that BBCA showed in their entirity, so they're the only ones I've seen whole.
They did the same for Season six, too.
So yeah. The Tennant specials aren't as great as they could have been. But I think the first two stand well with the rest of the Tennant era.
Favorite companions:
The Ponds (Amy, Rory, and River)
Donna (Very close second)
Martha (Maybe she ranks so high out of sympathy for Martha, and my crush on Freema)
Jack
Sarah Jane and Rose (Tied)
Jackie
Mickey
Favorite Doctors:
10
11
9
I haven't really been able to see anything before the movie that introduced 8. And haven't seen that since it aired in the '90s.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Oct 6, 2012 5:55:00 GMT
I liked the first tennant special because I absolutely love Donna. Until the Ponds, she was my favorite companion. By Tennant Specials we mean Next Doctor, Planet of the Dead, Waters of Mars and End of Time. Christmas Invasion, Runaway Bride & Voyage of the Dammed are technically part of the seasons that follow. But I can understand the distinction isn't clear |
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Post by blueshift on Oct 6, 2012 7:26:18 GMT
Planet of the Dead was... okay. Wasn't great, but wasn't bad. Honestly, it was the girl who made that one. She'd have made a fun companion. I have to strongly disagree there. I loathed her. What a horrible shallow self-absorbed entitled character. She's just a horrible selfish thief, and at the end instead of going to jail, she gets a magical flying bus (presumably so she can steal more national treasures from museums for herself?) Ugh. |
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Post by Philip Ayres on Oct 6, 2012 7:37:33 GMT
She was Iris Wildthyme and you know it!
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Post by blueshift on Oct 6, 2012 7:51:40 GMT
She was Iris Wildthyme and you know it! She didn't look like Katy Manning to me! |
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Post by legios on Oct 6, 2012 17:23:51 GMT
She didn't look like Katy Manning to me! I've never pictured Iris as looking like Katy (or Lady Tea-Leaf for that matter though). Whether that was Magrs original intention I don't know but I never really picked up on it if it was... Didn't like Lady Christina at all - she was the sort of self-interested thrill-seeker that the Doctor should be teaching some level of moral responsibility to, not enabling her selfishness. (Actually, the character I actually liked in that story was the UNIT Officer - taking the risk of a world despoiling swarm coming through the wormhole does seem like rather a large risk to be honest and I did think she had a valid point.) Karl |
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Post by The Doctor on Oct 7, 2012 5:54:17 GMT
Planet of the Dead was... okay. Wasn't great, but wasn't bad. Honestly, it was the girl who made that one. She'd have made a fun companion. I have to strongly disagree there. I loathed her. What a horrible shallow self-absorbed entitled character. She's just a horrible selfish thief, and at the end instead of going to jail, she gets a magical flying bus (presumably so she can steal more national treasures from museums for herself?) Ugh. I'm with you there! She bothered me all the way through the episode then was rewarded for being a tool! -Ralph |
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Post by The Doctor on Oct 7, 2012 5:55:41 GMT
She didn't look like Katy Manning to me! I've never pictured Iris as looking like Katy (or Lady Tea-Leaf for that matter though). Whether that was Magrs original intention I don't know but I never really picked up on it if it was... Karl Katy Manning plays Iris in Magrs scripted BF audios. -Ralph |
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Post by Toph on Oct 7, 2012 7:02:45 GMT
Planet of the Dead was... okay. Wasn't great, but wasn't bad. Honestly, it was the girl who made that one. She'd have made a fun companion. I have to strongly disagree there. I loathed her. What a horrible shallow self-absorbed entitled character. She's just a horrible selfish thief, and at the end instead of going to jail, she gets a magical flying bus (presumably so she can steal more national treasures from museums for herself?) Ugh. That's exactly why I thought she'd be a really interesting character to become a companion. That may be why you hate her, but that's what makes her so full of potential. Personally from a creative standpoint, I'd rather write for a character like that, than I would Rose or Martha. (Though to be honest, I'd come up with a character like Donna, before I would any of them) |
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Post by legios on Oct 7, 2012 10:01:03 GMT
[ Katy Manning plays Iris in Magrs scripted BF audios. I know. But that hasn't changed the mental image that I developed of the character from her BBC Books appearances. (But then, I don't see Benny as looking like Lisa Bowerman either - so this is perhaps a quirk of how my brain works). Karl |
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Post by legios on Oct 7, 2012 13:09:22 GMT
Anyway, to get back on point. I wasn't a fan of the final run of Tennant Specials. I'm still not, but having read Russell T Davies book I can see why they turned out the way that they did - a pretty burned out crew trying to drag themselves to the finishing line, digging deep to find whatever is left in them. I still doesn't actually make me enjoy them any more, but I am less harsh on them knowing the situation that they evolved in.
Karl
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Post by The Doctor on Oct 8, 2012 16:57:27 GMT
The Waters of Mars would have been a decent regular series 45 minute episode but the 60 format stretched the story to breaking point.
-Ralph
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