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Post by The Doctor on Feb 21, 2013 19:37:41 GMT
I choose to believe they don't exist!
I have only ever noticed spaceships as being 'she' in Star Trek.
-Ralph
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Post by legios on Feb 21, 2013 20:23:54 GMT
It is an extrapolation of the tendency for people to refer to water-going ships as being female - which has been around in Western Culture back to the age of sail. It has tended to be transposed to spacecraft because popular culture tends to fall back on naval analogies for spacecraft a lot. I find myself doing it for some spaceships but not for others. Liberator, the Macross, Moya, I think of as "she", but Serenity, Scorpio, White Base, Peacekeeper Command Carriers are much more commonly "it".
Cars, buses and trains tend to be "it" to me as well - but that is because I tend to see them as utilitarian objects like plates and chairs.
Karl
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Post by Toph on Feb 21, 2013 20:30:18 GMT
I have to admit that I have never noticed this. Ever. Or perhaps you are delusional, Andu! -Ralph All boats (And thus by extention starships like the Enterprise, and MF, and Tardises) are always referrenced with "She" and "Her." In real life and fiction. To a lesser extent, cars and bikes are as well. Basically, almost all vehicles are either referred to as female, or as "it." Pay more attention to Scotty, man! He's always calling the Enterprise a she! Even in Relics! Geordi does sometimes. |
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Post by Shockprowl on Feb 22, 2013 18:41:26 GMT
Andu and C.J. speak true, Doc'. Vehicles have always been referred to in the female-female. Sea going (space going) vehicles far more so. Turns me on, frankly.
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Post by Toph on Feb 22, 2013 22:29:25 GMT
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Post by The Doctor on Feb 22, 2013 23:17:53 GMT
Oh I knew about boats and Star Trek ships being female, as I said. Just never noticed it in Star Wars. So what is the Death Star then?
-Ralph
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Post by Toph on Feb 23, 2013 0:29:10 GMT
Oh, I'm sorry. I'd misread that as Star Trek in your post, and didn't notice it was Wars. My bad.
Yeah, I don't know about Star Wars myself. Only seen each movie once, and that's really once more than I wanted to see from five of them. (I wanted to see Episode 4 until I saw it, and didn't want to see any others after that, until Clone Wars)
But, it wouldn't surprise me if Han referres to the Falcon as a she, like everyone says. That seems like his character.
And while I don't remember any particular incident, it's totally within Asohka's personality to call ships "her," "she," and "girl." She seems sentamental enough.
I guess in that fiction, it's more up to character personality.
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Post by Shockprowl on Feb 23, 2013 7:30:05 GMT
Yeah, I don't know about Star Wars myself. Only seen each movie once, and that's really once more than I wanted to see from five of them. (I wanted to see Episode 4 until I saw it.... *GASP!* |
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Post by The Doctor on May 9, 2024 22:28:43 GMT
Still shocking.
-Ralph
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Post by Shockprowl on May 9, 2024 22:58:02 GMT
He must have seen more Star Wars by now, Shirley?
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Post by The Doctor on May 10, 2024 8:57:45 GMT
Unknown.
-Ralph
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Post by legios on May 10, 2024 21:17:30 GMT
Oddly I actually have an on-topic observation to add to this thread. As we know, aircraft are pretty much universally referred to as "she" if they are gendered. With the unexpected exception, I learned last year, of the TSR-2 prototypes from the UKs last entirely domestic strike aircraft development program. They were universally referred to around the BAC factory as "he".(*)
Karl
(* - per interpretation boards at the Imperial War Museum, Duxford)
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