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Post by Andy Turnbull on Apr 19, 2017 21:28:15 GMT
Same, I remember getting to read it alongside some stacks of Roy of the Rovers comics in my youth.
I didn't really appreciate it then, but it is a classic.
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Post by Philip Ayres on May 27, 2017 9:29:22 GMT
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Post by Andy Turnbull on May 27, 2017 20:27:57 GMT
Excellent!
Andy
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jul 28, 2017 21:46:09 GMT
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jul 28, 2017 21:49:10 GMT
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Post by Jim on Jul 29, 2017 20:05:55 GMT
A great run of comics, brilliant example of that period of Marvel.
-Jim
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Jul 30, 2017 6:11:56 GMT
I'm afraid I haven't really been keeping track... Are those excellent Iron Man / Doctor Octopus stories from the UK TF comic still missing or are they reprinted somewhere now?
Martin
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jul 30, 2017 6:30:42 GMT
No, not yet :-(
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Post by The Doctor on Jul 30, 2017 8:44:41 GMT
I think with Combat Colin now getting a reprint only that Iron Man, Robotix, Inhumanoids, Visionaries, Spitfire and the Pishshooters, Robo Capers and the 'tales from the past' are the last unreprinted parts of TFUK.
Hmmm. More than I had realised.
-Ralph
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Aug 3, 2017 22:42:04 GMT
I'm afraid I haven't really been keeping track... Are those excellent Iron Man / Doctor Octopus stories from the UK TF comic still missing or are they reprinted somewhere now? Martin Sadly not, but if they get round to a Marvel Fanfare Epic Collection that is where they will end up. Andy |
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Post by Philip Ayres on Aug 30, 2017 7:51:04 GMT
Both arrived yesterday, Superb so far! |
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Post by Philip Ayres on Aug 30, 2017 12:52:54 GMT
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Post by Philip Ayres on Sept 3, 2017 20:12:45 GMT
Finished the Alien Costume saga books. Ah that was good stuff. I have a soft spot for any Marvel c1983-6 when my Dad was bringing me comics home. There's several issues he got me in these. Yes I already had the ASM in Birth of Venom and Epic 15 Ghosts of the Past, the Peter Parker in Essentials, so colour is an upgrade, and the Marvel Team Up in the issues, but I'm a sucker for an MTU traded: I'd have MTU as the next title to get Epic collectioned if I had my way! However it's nice to have them all in these volumes together.
I'd love them to put out the Epics to fill the gaps in this part of the ASM run: v14, the 20 or so issues up to 258 introducing the Hobgoblin and the first half of the Alien Costume story (I know, I've bought it twice already) then v16 with 273-288 in it and v2 17 & 18, The Todd MacFarlane volumes, the contents of which are long out of print in other trades.
The Alien Costume books also reprint bits from letters columns and Marvel Age around the ending of Marvel Team Up and the start of Web Of. I always disagreed with this, not just because I was very fond of MTU, but also because I felt Web lacked any real identity. Indeed with the ending of the Black Cat relationship in Peter Parker 100, that book kind of lost it's identity a bit and, having read Web in Essentials, that never really finds it's voice trying a few things. MTU on the other hand has a strong theme: Spider-Man teams up with another super hero. It's one of several decisions around this time, probably the first of them, that I feel Marvel really got wrong.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Sept 3, 2017 21:34:08 GMT
Having got the spreadsheet out to check those ASM Epic numbers I'm drawn to a couple of other gaps I'd like to see filled. Iron Man 12 (196-214, Annual 8) & 14 (233-244 + ?) and Avengers 8 (129-148, Giant Size 2-4) all represent one volume gaps but since I can see an Iron Man epic and 2 Avengers epics on Amazon, I doubt I'll see those before 2019!
The next X-Men volume I'd like to see is 11 which we think is something like 178-188, Kitty Pryde & Wolverine 1-6, Marvel Team Up 150.
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Post by The Doctor on Sept 4, 2017 12:38:24 GMT
I did enjoy the alien costume storyline. It only got rubbish when Venom came along later.
-Ralph
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Post by legios on Sept 4, 2017 19:57:14 GMT
Ah Marvel Team-up. Or as I have always affectionally referred to it "Spider-Man and...", in the same way that for most of its existence Brave and the Bold was "Batman and..." to me :-)
Karl
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Post by Philip Ayres on Sept 4, 2017 20:06:23 GMT
Still a good book though!
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Sept 5, 2017 22:28:44 GMT
I loved Marvel Team-Up, and was gutted it was cancelled. That and Marvel Two in One, did make for some grand stories over the years.
I agree Web never really found a distinct voice during it's tenure, a few moments here and there but nothing substantial.
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Post by legios on Sept 11, 2017 17:18:13 GMT
Still a good book though! Oh indeed! That was not meant to disparage either book. I love the idea of random team-ups between Superheroes, it is part of the fun when they just hapoen to bump into each other whilst fightng evil. Loved the "<insert relevant hero> and.." books. Karl |
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Post by Philip Ayres on Oct 31, 2017 11:42:29 GMT
So... Last night I pulled the Ladronn Cable issues from the long boxes ahead of the Ladronn trades released in November and Jan. That got me wondering how much of the Cable run was missing between the end of the Cable Classics, which I bought at the time, and the start of these. So I did a search for Cable Classics on Amazon to get v3 which ends on issue 20. Unfortunately while I was there I discovered this: www.amazon.co.uk/Cable-X-Force-Classic/dp/0785184325/
Cable and X-Force Classic - Volume 1
COLLECTING: Cable (1993) 21-28, X-Force (1991) 44-48. And this: www.amazon.co.uk/Cable-X-Force-Onslaught-Jeph-Loeb/dp/1302909495/
Cable & X-Force: Onslaught Rising
COLLECTING: X-FORCE (1991) 49-56, CABLE (1993) 29-31, X-MAN 14, X-FORCE/CABLE ANNUAL '95 So.... How badly do I want Cable 21-31 in trades? My memory says they are not the finest comics work ever. Have Cable 32-47, the gap between there and Cable: Hellfire Hunt, been printed? But to summarise: | Trade | Cable | X-Force | | Cable Classics 1 | 1-4 | | | Cable Classics 2 | 5-14 | | | Cable Classics 3 | 15-20 | | | X-Force A Force to be Reckoned with | | 1-4 | | X-Force Under The Gun | | 5-15 | | X-Cutioner's Song | | 16-18 | | X-Force Assault on Greymalkin | | 19-25 | | X-Force Toy Soldiers | | 26-31 | | X-Force Child's Play | | 32-37 | | Cable & X-Force Classics 1 | 21-28 | 44-48 | | Cable & X-Force: Road to Onslaught | 29-31 | 49-56 | - | | | | Cable: Hellfire Hunt | 48-58 | | | Cable: Nemesis Contract | 59-70 | |
Then there's the X-Force issues in those trades, 44-56. Again, do I need those? I suspect not as at some point they'll be Epic Collectioned given there's an X-Force v1 and I'm not in a rush to read them. Investigation shows the X-Force issues above dove tail nicely with X-Force HCs. But I bailed on them with 4 volumes unbought and that ain't going to be cheap to buy. So I think I can resist on that front..... |
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Post by The Doctor on Oct 31, 2017 12:10:22 GMT
A lot of really bad comics in that table. Resist!
-Ralph
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Oct 31, 2017 17:09:15 GMT
Indeed.
Cable is worth reading for the Joe Casey/ Ladronn issues and then...well that's it really.
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Post by Jim on Oct 31, 2017 17:22:09 GMT
There's some good stuff in those X-Force HCs! It's _very_ 90s, but Nicieza keeps it readable. I enjoyed them a lot.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Oct 31, 2017 17:24:02 GMT
Indeed. Cable is worth reading for the Joe Casey/ Ladronn issues and then...well that's it really. I recall the first couple, set in the future and concerning Cable's trip back to now, being OK. And the Churchill drawn issue just prior to Age of Apocalypse being a cracker. All of which I have. Apart from those and the Ladronn issues nothing stands out. But the Ladronn drawn stuff is something special. |
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Post by Philip Ayres on Oct 31, 2017 17:31:11 GMT
There's some good stuff in those X-Force HCs! It's _very_ 90s, but Nicieza keeps it readable. I enjoyed them a lot. I read it at the time, and I've got the first two HCs. I think there's a noticeable downturn from the end of New Mutants to the start of X-Force and it another when Liefield jumps. |
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Oct 31, 2017 17:42:25 GMT
I think X-Force is decent enough. Quite enjoyed most of it up until about after Onslaught.
Andy
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Post by Jim on Oct 31, 2017 17:44:51 GMT
I think it wobbles when Liefeld jumps, then finds its feet again. For all people hate on him, at that point in his career at least he could really bring some energy to a book. But I do think Nicieza managed to bring something to it, and it was sort of a shame it cut off where it did - he clearly had a bit more to tell. I have zero intention of reading the Loeb stuff that followed though.
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Post by Jim on Oct 31, 2017 17:46:52 GMT
I think X-Force is decent enough. Quite enjoyed most of it up until about after Onslaught. Andy I'm a fan of the Moore / Pollina run (it was one of just three books on my reduced pull-list as a student at the time), and to a lesser extent of the Cheung-drawn run that followed. The Ellis-led reboot was dire though. |
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Oct 31, 2017 17:50:19 GMT
I liked Pollina's work but just felt the book was a bit lost.
The Ellis reboot only worked on X-Man. Gen X and X-Force...ugh.
Andy
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Post by Philip Ayres on Nov 20, 2017 16:56:45 GMT
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