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Post by Andy Turnbull on Feb 2, 2019 16:13:28 GMT
Oh I shall have to get that, sounds good. Saw a few folk talking about it on Twitter the other week.
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Post by The Doctor on Feb 22, 2019 20:44:42 GMT
KONG ON THE PLANET OF THE APES has been procured from the library. It can only be a winner!!!
-Ralph
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Mar 9, 2019 11:20:13 GMT
The Hachette Marvel GN thing has the first half of Earth X.
Had to pick it up. Well worth getting, a nice what if future tale and some lovely art by John-Paul Leon.
Andy
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Post by blueshift on Mar 9, 2019 11:44:18 GMT
I remember really liking Earth X, and then it was an amazing downwards curve in interest for the sequels
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Mar 9, 2019 11:45:25 GMT
Yup.
Universe X was solid, but lacked something.
Paradise X...
Well.
Andy
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Mar 16, 2019 11:33:39 GMT
Picked up Xerxes by Frank Miller today.
I was always going to.
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Post by The Doctor on Mar 16, 2019 13:33:40 GMT
KONG ON THE PLANET OF THE APES: ponderous. Not fun.
-Ralph
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Post by Pinwig on Mar 16, 2019 13:59:55 GMT
'Kong on' sounds like it ought to be rude.
"I've got a Kong on," said Shockprowl as he opened his New Age Harry.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Mar 21, 2019 9:47:29 GMT
Read the first volume of Al Ewing's Immortal Hulk, courtesy of Comixology's Trade sale, after seeing it's praises sung in people's end of year stuff on Twitter. Yeah, it's certainly got something. Will be keeping an eye for future volumes. Grabbed the second volume in the Comixology BOGOF sale this week. Good stuff.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Mar 21, 2019 15:46:54 GMT
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Post by Philip Ayres on Mar 24, 2019 13:36:19 GMT
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Post by Jim on Mar 24, 2019 14:24:24 GMT
Oh yes, I could go for that. I have some of those comics as singles. I vaguely remembe enjoying the Deodato mini more than I expected, but it will look a bit incongruous with those 70s comics!
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Mar 24, 2019 23:42:29 GMT
Onslaught was a lot of build up, which suffered from them coming up with a concept and a name and not having a back story. The fact they shat out of making it a proper - Professor X is evil story is a shame. That should have been the end of Xavier. There's an issue of adjectiveless X-Men - I think either 52 or 53 that has Jean interacting with Onslaught - written by Mark Waid, which really hammers home who Onslaught is, and they should have properly built to it. Andy I came back into reading US comics after a 4-ish year break literally just after Onslaught had finished, in autumn '96, and as a result it gained a sort of mystique as a Big Event that I've never quite shaken despite reading bits and pieces of it over the years. I quite liked the Onslaught: MU one-shot that ended it, even. It's more interesting for what it begat - with that Heroes Reborn subverse we got the fantastic Heroes for Hire and Ka-Zar series and Thunderbolts. Hulk got a bit of a shot in the arm - as the book did feel to be floundering a little. It just didn't properly pull the trigger on what it should have done which was clearing the decks of Xavier and Magneto, I know Joseph was there, but still you could have let them fade. As the x books had outgrown them both. Andy
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Post by Philip Ayres on Mar 25, 2019 0:05:34 GMT
My memory is the X Books are rather good for a year or so afterwards until c UXM 380.
Avengers and Iron Man were in a mess before Onslaught - can't speak so much for Thor, Cap and FF. Onslaught enabled some tidying up and a change of staff on those titles.
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Post by Jim on Mar 25, 2019 0:23:33 GMT
Yes, it was a great moment to pick up marvel comics again and you took the words out of my mouth with the titles you mentioned! It’s also the period where Kelly’s Deadpool was at its best, and I enjoyed the Moore / Pollina X-Force a lot as well.
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Mar 25, 2019 8:29:47 GMT
My memory is the X Books are rather good for a year or so afterwards until c UXM 380. Avengers and Iron Man were in a mess before Onslaught - can't speak so much for Thor, Cap and FF. ONslaught enabled some tidying up and a change of staff on those titles. Cap had not long started the Waid/Garney run so was derailed by the whole thing. An unfortunate casualty.
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Post by tomwe on Mar 25, 2019 9:47:36 GMT
My memory is the X Books are rather good for a year or so afterwards until c UXM 380. Avengers and Iron Man were in a mess before Onslaught - can't speak so much for Thor, Cap and FF. ONslaught enabled some tidying up and a change of staff on those titles. FF had been under DeFalco / Ryan for a very long time and was incredibly stale. There were two issues drawn by Carlos Pacheco right before it was Reborn, who then returned to write and draw after Chris Claremont had had his fill in the Reborn era.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Mar 25, 2019 10:04:49 GMT
With Avengers, Harras had been writing for years. And had just committed the sin of The Crossing. It's almost as if they knew it was a bad idea as soon as it happened and tried to tap them into the X-Event to reset it. Or they knew Onslaught and Heroes Reborn was coming before they did that and decided to chuck any old **** at the wall and see what worked.
Writing wasn't the only problem though: Tom Palmer was still inking and still making everyone look exactly like he'd made John Buscema look in the 250s/260s even though art styles had moved on. I find some of the Palmerised art in the 300s painful to look at. Yet I love his work on Walter Simonson in Star Wars and it works over John Buscema, possibly because that's where I first encountered it.
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Mar 26, 2019 9:29:11 GMT
My memory is the X Books are rather good for a year or so afterwards until c UXM 380. Avengers and Iron Man were in a mess before Onslaught - can't speak so much for Thor, Cap and FF. ONslaught enabled some tidying up and a change of staff on those titles. You weren't a fan of Claremont's return? Had some nice art and there were a couple of ideas in there worth pursuing. I'd say the best X-book post 380 was X-Man, as it finally had a point. The best from the Counter-X era.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Mar 26, 2019 10:31:12 GMT
My memory is the X Books are rather good for a year or so afterwards until c UXM 380. Avengers and Iron Man were in a mess before Onslaught - can't speak so much for Thor, Cap and FF. ONslaught enabled some tidying up and a change of staff on those titles. You weren't a fan of Claremont's return? Had some nice art and there were a couple of ideas in there worth pursuing. I'd say the best X-book post 380 was X-Man, as it finally had a point. The best from the Counter-X era. I jumped both books c380 as I wasn't happy with what editorial did at all. Didn't buy again till X-Men 114 and Morrison/Quitely, then jumped on Uncanny with Austin, whose first dozen or so issues hit the spot. Read in between in Paninivision. Claremont's return never grabbed me.... But I liked his Xtreme work with LaRocca. Decent title with a defined direction and took some characters out the regular X-Books which made things easier there. Goes off the boil post Invasion storyline and when LaRocca is moved sideways and it goes Movie Tie In/Shadow King on us.
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Mar 26, 2019 12:05:54 GMT
Has there ever been a more dramatic fall from grace in comics than Chuck Austen? I mean speaking of just work put out, as opposed to allegations of racism, sexism, assault and the like.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Mar 26, 2019 13:06:50 GMT
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Mar 26, 2019 15:24:31 GMT
I did like his early run as well. He shat the bed with the Draco, but the fact that editorial let it pass says it all though.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Mar 26, 2019 15:46:30 GMT
Not just that, anything he did with Nightcrawler was bad, but especially all the church material. A man seemingly with issues, as we've noted before.
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Mar 26, 2019 15:52:02 GMT
Well to be fair Claremont introduced that little dead end of character development. It still reads as a way to keep him away from being a leader of the team, rather than any natural plot development for him.
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Post by The Doctor on Mar 26, 2019 16:17:16 GMT
I liked it when Nightcrawler was a priest. It made him interesting.
-Ralph
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Post by Philip Ayres on Mar 26, 2019 22:45:43 GMT
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Post by The Doctor on Mar 26, 2019 22:59:48 GMT
I am confused how New X-Men Companion promotes Morrison's run but has comics from beforw his run. Am I missing something?
-Ralph
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Mar 26, 2019 23:03:01 GMT
1993 is the year that X-Men unlimited launched. It was a quarterly title - so those comics are all from in and around his run.
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Post by The Doctor on Mar 26, 2019 23:07:49 GMT
Oh I didn't know he had done X-Men before New X-Men. I didn't pay much attention to Unlimited.
EDIT: No he didn't. I get it now.
-Ralph
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