|
|
Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Jul 22, 2013 20:31:07 GMT
The film on Blu-ray is 17 minutes longer than the cinema release and the DVD. Flint and Jinx are the main beneficiaries (or the main victims of the theatrical editor, if you look at it the other way). Zartan also gets a few more scenes.
It's enough to firmly cement it as the second-best Hasbro film to date (though considerably behind Rise of Cobra).
Martin
|
|
|
|
Post by legios on Jul 22, 2013 21:31:35 GMT
Lacking a Blu-Ray player I shall be picking up the DVD release come payday methinks. As mentioned elsewhereI have reassessed my feelings about the film a bit recently, and I look forward to further reconsideration on a reviewing.
Karl
|
|
|
|
Post by Philip Ayres on Jul 22, 2013 21:46:10 GMT
All need BD players
|
|
|
|
Post by legios on Jul 22, 2013 22:06:56 GMT
A BD player with a Standard Definition TV is not quite the same..... (Not that high Def Space:1999 this weekend didn't make getting one tempting. Karl |
|
|
|
Post by Andy Turnbull on Jul 22, 2013 22:15:50 GMT
Picked up and watched the Blu Ray today. Thoroughly enjoyed the film, but yes not as good as the first.
Andy
|
|
|
|
Post by The Doctor on Jul 22, 2013 22:18:07 GMT
Hmmm. Can't say I'm happy that the longer version is only on Blu-Ray.
-Ralph
|
|
|
|
Post by Andy Turnbull on Jul 22, 2013 22:22:25 GMT
Twenty pounds get you a USB blu ray drive that you can use with the pc...
Andy
|
|
|
|
Post by The Doctor on Jul 22, 2013 22:52:37 GMT
Nnnnnghhhh.
-Ralph
|
|
|
|
Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Jul 23, 2013 6:32:29 GMT
Mind you, the DVD version has stuff that the Blu-ray lacks - notably a director's commentary.
Martin
|
|
|
|
Post by Fortmax2020 on Jul 23, 2013 8:33:13 GMT
You are all craaaaaaaaaaaaazy!!
|
|
|
|
Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Jul 23, 2013 19:12:28 GMT
The pause button shows Major Bludd, Beachhead and Scarlett all in G.I. Joe Retaliation, during the character database voiceover intro at the start of the movie.
Martin
|
|
|
|
Post by jameso on Jul 24, 2013 14:26:51 GMT
The Blu Ray having bonus features that the dvd doesn't is one thing, splitting the extras between the two is a new low.
|
|
|
|
Post by legios on Jul 25, 2013 20:03:48 GMT
I spotted the Major Bludd thing at the time in the cinema, but I didn't pick up on Beachhead and Scarlett being referenced. I will be able to have a look myself in due course, I have snagged a copy of the DVD this afternoon for watching in due course. Not sure whether to double-bill it with RoC, or whether it would be fairer to Retaliation to watch it on its own.
Karl
|
|
|
|
Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Aug 7, 2013 19:48:17 GMT
The pause button shows Major Bludd, Beachhead and Scarlett all in G.I. Joe Retaliation, during the character database voiceover intro at the start of the movie. For those who care... one of the Joes who gets killed is Clutch - Duke calls him by name during the mission and he's listed on the end credits. He has a few lines in the extended Blu-ray version. Another of the Joes who dies is listed on the credits as being Grunt. The subtitles claim that one of the voices heard speaking several lines on the radio during the battle belongs to Shipwreck - but I'm not sure this isn't the same guy credited as being Clutch. Martin |
|
|
|
Post by legios on Aug 7, 2013 21:54:47 GMT
I wasn't sure in the cinema if that was supposed to be the Joe codenamed Grunt, or just a grunt. But on reflection I think it probably is meant to be Grunt. Which means at the rate they are going through Joes it is not impossible that if they make it to a GI:Joe 4 they might be needing to look at folk like Sci-Fi or Flash as their cameos.
I've been rewatching Retaliation this evening and giving it the second viewing that I felt it probably deserved. I have definitely moderated my position on it. I still don't think it is as good as Rise of Cobra, but any bits with the Ninjas (especially Cobra's Red Ninja's - Cobra Commander really needs to get a refund on what he/McCullen spent on those guys) are fantastically daft, and both of the fights between Roadblock and Firefly have are really well staged (the second one has some really nice close-quarters Gun-Fu going on). Not-Flint and Lady Jae however are extremely ill-served by the film, compared to any of the Rise characters they are extremely flat and make next to no screen impact (excepting for the fact that Jae is played by Adrienne Palicki of course). The new Cobra Commander is sadly, inferior to both his predecessor and to President Zartan, and he is going to have to up his game I feel.
I kind of feel it is a mixed bag - bits of it are really good, and bits are a little lacklustre. But for all that it is so far and away more watchable than the Transformers movies that you can't even really see them from there. All told it is a far more enjoyable daft action movie than I gave it credit for, something that can sit happily in the collection next to things like The Losers without feeling out of step.
Noticed a couple of things that hadn't really clicked with me the first time I saw it - firstly that along with the Joe dress uniform, with his US style qualification flashes, Roadblock appears to be wearing a pin saying "US", I wonder if other Joes - when there were any - also wore "country of origin" indicators on their dress uniforms. The second was that in the mountain aerie fight Storm Shadow opens the fight proper by pulling a pair of Sai - less than lethal weapons meant mostly for disarming and defence - rather than his swords. Makes me wonder whether at that stage he wasn't entirely set on making it a killing fight with Snake Eyes. Which would fight well with his alliance of convenience later on, as well as the Ninja Revolving Door fitted to GI Joe in the comics.
Karl
|
|
|
|
Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Aug 8, 2013 6:19:07 GMT
Maybe the fact that Snake-Eyes was careful to shoot all his throwing stars out of the air with his machine pistol without hitting the guy throwing them made Storm Shadow decide to be a little less lethal in his choice of weapons.
Cobra Commander was completely redundant as far as the bad guys were concerned. They could have left him in the freezer and the film would have unfolded in exactly the same way.
Re: daft ninjas. In the Blu-ray version, Snake-Eyes and Jinx have an extended fight at the start in which Snake-Eyes wins a special indestructible sword from the Blind Master. He hands it to Storm Shadow during the final battle and SS uses it to kill Zartan, then gives it back to Snake-Eyes before vanishing, and Snake-Eyes gives it to Jinx as a reward for her saving the foreign ambassadors.
Martin
|
|
Hero
Fusilateral Quintro Combiner
King of RULES!
Everything Rules
Posts: 7,494
|
Post by Hero on Aug 8, 2013 7:22:57 GMT
Rented this out on Sky Anytime and enjoyed it.
|
|
Nigel
Fusilateral Quintro Combiner
Posts: 5,101
|
Post by Nigel on Jan 13, 2014 15:19:16 GMT
I saw Retaliation at last yesterday (DVD). It was a lot better than I expected. With Dwayne Johnson and Bruce Willis on board, I was expecting a by-the-numbers action film that lacked the in-jokes and tongue-in-cheek attitude that made Rise of Cobra so much fun. True, it did lack those things, but I actually found it a solid GI Joe tale, with plenty of traditional elements - a big Cobra scheme, the complex Snake Eyes / Storm Shadow relationship, Arishikage, the Blind Master, etc; the hardware was very much inspired by the classic toys, such as the AWE Striker, HISS Tank, and Cobra Commander's mask; and there was the homage to the wordless comic issue. Okay, there were things that grated, such as Flint and Lady Jaye being American (GI Joe being American rather than international in the films) (and surely Flint should outrank Roadblock); President Zartan mentioning Cobra Special Forces in a press conference, which should have had the top brass scratching their heads; and, er something else, which has currently slipped my mind, but all-in-all, I enjoyed it.
|
|
|
|
Post by legios on Jan 19, 2014 21:58:03 GMT
I have now had a chance to see the Blu-Ray version of Retalitation. As the song lyric over the end titles asks "How, you like me now?!" And the answer is, distinctly better. There may not be a huge amount of extra footage but what it is shows how much of the films heart was removed when they hacked it up to make the theatrical cut (that wasn't precise surgery, it is a back-street hack job). The inclusion of some of the material with Flint and Roadblock actually gives the former something to contribute to the story of the film - and actually makes him a more likeable character - and in the same manner we get a reason of Jinx to be in the film and a character arc which takes in her, Snake Eyes and Storm Shadow.
There is no doubt in my mind that the Blu-ray version is a far superior film. It has gone from a "will rent it on blu-ray when we finally get an upgraded bridge here" to "One of the first candidates for an upgrade purchase".
Karl
|
|
|
|
Post by duffism1981 on Jan 19, 2014 22:19:35 GMT
I am guessing that none of you picked up the blu-ray for the whopping £2.50 in the crazy Tesco entertainment clear out last Friday?
|
|
|
|
Post by Philip Ayres on Jan 19, 2014 22:29:56 GMT
No but if anyone has one for that price.....
|
|
|
|
Post by legios on Jan 19, 2014 22:39:22 GMT
I wasn't aware of that at all. I shall have to have a talk with my staff intelligence officer and find out why the data didn't reach me.
Karl
|
|
|
|
Post by duffism1981 on Jan 19, 2014 23:04:23 GMT
It seemed to be hit and miss on what Tesco's had the sale, but it mostly seemed to be Tesco Extras. Lucky enough for me I opened my case at the check out as it seemed light, and indeed the disc was missing. Fortunately for me there was another one that no one had picked up in the madness. There was people with baskets full of cheap blu-rays, the most seemed to be £3.75. All the good stuff was gone when I went back in the next day, but this is what they had for sale and the prices they were going for. www.hotukdeals.com/deals/tesco-instore-dvd-blu-clearance-includes-wreck-ralph-monsters-inc-blu-ray-2-50-1788685 |
|
|
|
Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Jan 20, 2014 7:52:33 GMT
I have now had a chance to see the Blu-Ray version of Retalitation. As the song lyric over the end titles asks "How, you like me now?!" And the answer is, distinctly better. There may not be a huge amount of extra footage but what it is shows how much of the films heart was removed when they hacked it up to make the theatrical cut (that wasn't precise surgery, it is a back-street hack job). The inclusion of some of the material with Flint and Roadblock actually gives the former something to contribute to the story of the film - and actually makes him a more likeable character - and in the same manner we get a reason of Jinx to be in the film and a character arc which takes in her, Snake Eyes and Storm Shadow. There is no doubt in my mind that the Blu-ray version is a far superior film. It has gone from a "will rent it on blu-ray when we finally get an upgraded bridge here" to "One of the first candidates for an upgrade purchase". I don't think I've ever seen a film more improved from its theatrical release than G.I. Joe: Retaliation on Blu-ray - and I've seen a fair few greatly improved films on extended DVD release. It really does make it stand up well alongside Rise of Cobra, and as has been said, does wonders for Jinx and Flint as characters. Martin |
|
|
|
Post by Andy Turnbull on Jan 21, 2014 0:55:30 GMT
I had the reverse experience to Karl. I missed G.I. Joe: Retaliation at the cinema so my first viewing was of the Blu-Ray and then when I was at Karl's I saw the DVD cut which is the same as the cinema version and was so disappointed in it.
The Blu-Ray cut made that film a lot smoother, just little scenes here and there but they made the story flow a lot better and as you say Jinx and Flint get a much better deal.
Andy
|
|
|
|
Post by The Doctor on Apr 21, 2014 20:09:48 GMT
I saw the blu-ray cut. Threatrical version is far superior. Better pacing.
-Ralph
|
|
|
|
Post by Pinwig on Sept 28, 2019 15:21:32 GMT
|
|
|
|
Post by The Doctor on Sept 29, 2019 11:01:28 GMT
Eccelston briefly mentions his GI JOE stint in his biog. He did not enjoy it.
-Ralph
|
|
|
|
Post by Fortmax2020 on Sept 29, 2019 13:40:49 GMT
Not even tossing the caber??
|
|
|
|
Post by The Doctor on Sept 29, 2019 18:12:38 GMT
He is a Very Intense Man.
-Ralph
|
|
