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Post by primenova on Jun 2, 2014 12:01:30 GMT
It's going to be finding out what the drawing stuff is - if this is set up for movie or if they are keeping it for the tv series. It would be ineteresting if they pick up forgotten elements of Marvel for series 2 to tie in with the Movie - so you have the characters busy with other stuff so the big stuff is left for the Movies. Also good seeing someone show up. Wasn't the Deathlok MK1 the guy from Torchwood3? Didn't like him.
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Post by primenova on Jun 5, 2014 11:37:55 GMT
Could they have Death's Head in series 3? Or another robot character instead of going with the human with implants.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jun 5, 2014 12:04:13 GMT
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Oct 10, 2014 21:53:18 GMT
October 24th sees the second series start up again on Channel 4.
Andy
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Post by duffism1981 on Oct 11, 2014 13:52:00 GMT
So we should be keeping our thoughts, opinions and spoilers to the UK airing schedule?
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Post by Philip Ayres on Oct 11, 2014 14:09:09 GMT
If you want to talk about the US episodes give the number and title and spoiler the whole post after that
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Oct 26, 2014 18:29:15 GMT
Watched some of the first episode of Season 2, but was channel hopping. The biggest problem I have with Shield, is it's a fantastic element to have running through other tales, but focusing on it centrally it's just not for me. The same with the lead, Clark Gregg. He is a brilliant supporting player, but as the series lead he just doesn't work. {Spoiler}Although it was awesome to see the Absorbing Man.
Andy
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Post by Bogatan on Oct 27, 2014 18:06:01 GMT
Been watching at US pace as I still dont trust C4 to show it on a regular basis and without butchering it for pre-watershed broadcast.
Inadvertently (or advertently) they have partially solved your issue with Clark Gregg, as director Coulson slips in and out of episodes in the way he did the films.
I stuck with the show for the first season and it paid off in the end, but it was never quite right, feels right now. My only complaint is that Tripp has so far been sidelined in favour of other new members, which is a real shame as when he does make it on screen he's still has star quality.
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Post by legios on Oct 28, 2014 21:33:53 GMT
I sat down and watched the first episode of season 2 today - catch-up TV is wonderful - I am still pretty lukewarm on the show to be honest. I saw the last few episodes of Season One, mostly because of the villain from whom I was hoping for a decent scenery-chewing performance and I pretty much got what I wanted from him. I still didn't come away from there with any real attachment to any of the ongoing characters though. Sadly this remains the case in the second season opener, not helped by throwing in a fairly nondescript set of extra muscle who didn't really do much other than shove existing characters out of the way and contribute only a very little. The only thing that really captured my attention was the appearance of Reed Diamond, if he is as he appears the arc villain for at least some of the season then I might be tempted to stick around for a while just on the strength of him because he always puts in a good shift.
The thought did occur to me whilst watching though that I can actually see why people would want to hunt down Coulson's S.H.I.E.L.D - a bunch of conspirators who are fugitives from Law Enforcement, armed with military grade hardware, who are acting without official sanction or oversight to change the global balance of power to fit their own agenda, and who have kidnapped an officer of the US Military, assaulted US Armed Forces, and infiltrated a high security facility to commit acts of theft. From the outside their are notable points of similarity between Coulson's conspiracy and Hydra... I'd like to think that this is something that the show itself might consider at some point, but I am not entirely hopeful I will admit - what I saw of the first season didn't seem particularly aware of how hinky S.H.I.E.L.D looked even before we knew it was actually Hydra, so...
I actually do feel a bit sorry for Clark Gregg - in many ways he hasn't been given enough to bounce off of, his real talent is in how he interacts with other actors and generally he has had to make most of the running which isn't the best use of his talents I feel. Those times in the previous season where he has been able to bounce off Ming-Na Wen in two handers were high points for him I feel, but they didn't do enough of that.
Karl
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Post by Bogatan on Oct 29, 2014 12:49:27 GMT
Hydra, so... Those times in the previous season where he has been able to bounce off Ming-Na Wen in two handers were high points for him I feel, but they didn't do enough of that. Karl If you like the May/Coulson pairing episode 2 or 3 may be worth a watch. Reed Diamond I assume will be sticking around and it would make sense if hes also in Agent carter too. Added bonus for me at least is Kyle MacLachlan guest starring at least until it's time to film Twin Peaks, then he must go. Quickly.
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Post by Jim on Oct 29, 2014 15:54:40 GMT
Thoroughly enjoyed the first episode, possibly the best yet. The Absorbing Man is brilliantly done - he absolutely looks the part and the effects work well. Good use of his powers too.
Some of the new guys getting killed off was fairly predictable, but well executed (as it were). In fact, overall the production quality seems much higher than season one - writing, pacing, acting. Lessons learnt?
-Jim
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Post by legios on Nov 2, 2014 21:04:44 GMT
Seen episode two now, and I continue to have mixed feelings about the show. The return of one of the supernumaries from the last few episodes of last season didn't really make me feel much either way. She wasn't really given anything very meaningful to do there, or here so it was hard to really feel it was anything other than another thing being dumped into a pot they aren't planning on boiling yet. I think the biggest problem I have with the show is that I find myself agreeing with the "wrong" characters - every time General Talbot sets out another good reason that Coulson's S.H.I.E.L.D is basically an armed conspiracy of fugitives from justice I find myself nodding in agreement, and I don't think that the show intends me to have that reaction somehow. Ironically I was in the same position when I saw the first season of "Arrow" - I agreed with the police officers who viewed Ollie as a dangerous vigilante who regarded himself as above the law. I think the difference was that whereas "Arrow" was fully aware of this and actually made a feature of that fact - with one of the villains making that point head-on, it feels like "Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D" is suffering from a bad case of "Protagionists are always morally justified". There was a real sense of "C'mon, our guys are the good guys and should be allowed to do anything they want in defiance of law, order and government", which doesn't really give me any confidence that the show is going to look at the issue of how close our heroes are to using methods which make them hard to tell from HYDRA at a distance.
Karl
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Post by Bogatan on Nov 6, 2014 20:05:05 GMT
Been rewatching season one on bluray and I have to say that most of them are better than I remembered. The general upswing in quality started earlier than I remembered too. I did like them at the time but as the season improved I guess I took a more negative view of them.
There are obvious flaws still, Ward and Skye, ugh! but there are elements I had forgotten about like the fact Ward and Simmons had pretty good chemistry at least compared with him and Skye. Ward and Fitz also made quite a fun pairing too. Sadly neither were developed, especially as it really would have made events at the end of the season that much more shocking.
I was hoping to see signs of Wards future actions in the early episodes, but if it was as preplanned as claimed they don't really seem to have been inserting clues.
Karl, I agree it would be good for them to at least acknowledge that after what happened in TWS no one should just accept Shield as the good guys. And yet...
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Post by primenova on Nov 21, 2014 12:50:37 GMT
Just seen afew things posted up online about future series 2 reveals for film tie in. But one thing is with SHIELD being in its current state it needs a lot of work to get it back upto pre Hydra. If gettign stuff set up like in the Avengers cartoon with orbital space station & maybe moon base.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Feb 6, 2015 20:30:05 GMT
Since Pete's asked about Gotham, do we know when SHIELD will be back?
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Feb 6, 2015 20:32:56 GMT
Next month I think.
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Post by Bogatan on Feb 6, 2015 21:33:05 GMT
Yeah beginning of march. Ish.
Agent Carter has 3 weeks left and is well worth checking out when it arrives in the uk, or earlier if so inclined.
I think aos is the week after or the week after that.
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Post by Toph on Feb 6, 2015 22:28:28 GMT
SHIELD is on hiatus so they can air Agent Carter, which is an eight episode miniseries. It's a little past the midway point, so SHIELD will be back soonish. ABC is already starting to hype it. So March sounds about right. And you guys are a few weeks behind us.
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Post by Toph on Mar 11, 2015 2:15:31 GMT
Third episode, "who you really are" aired tonight. Fun and good episode, too. oh yeah, they would definitely be in the mutant phase of the marvel cinemaverse, if fox didn't have that tied down. The inhumans are definitely being used as a mutant allegory.
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Post by primenova on Mar 11, 2015 7:09:43 GMT
When is Carter being shown? If they are setting for easter then we'll be back for AOS in may
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Post by Philip Ayres on Mar 11, 2015 9:21:10 GMT
Channel 4 haven't bought Agent Carter. Nobody here has.
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Post by primenova on Mar 11, 2015 12:38:26 GMT
I was expecting them to sell the series in a pack deal format like how BBC cut Dr Who down to force US to buy sherlock. But if they are keeping the short series on its own deal?
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Post by primenova on Mar 24, 2015 6:37:12 GMT
Back on this friday
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Post by primenova on May 31, 2015 7:00:28 GMT
Avengers 2 takes place between AOS 2.19 - 2.20
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Post by Toph on May 31, 2015 15:51:49 GMT
FYI for everyone, Avengers 2 doesn't have an impact on SHIELD, nor does SHIELD spoil AoU. At least nothing on the level of Winter Soldier, or even Thor 2.
So you can watch either on your own time, without worry of spoilers.
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Post by Pinwig on May 31, 2015 16:13:00 GMT
On the one hand that's a really good thing, cos it right cocked up Winter Soldier for me, but on the other - the only thing that made SHIELD even remotely watchable was the fallout immediately after Winter Soldier. This second season has been dull as ditch water. It annoys me to think that this gets renewed based on the Marvel name, not on the strength of the show itself, when so many good shows get canned before they really get a chance to get going*
*Subjective opinion alert.
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on May 31, 2015 16:27:35 GMT
FYI for everyone, Avengers 2 doesn't have an impact on SHIELD, nor does SHIELD spoil AoU. Well, this week's episode had one large (literally, physically large) AoU spoiler in it. I see Agents of SHIELD very much as an optional extra to the Marvel cinematic universe, like the bonus shorts on the Blu-rays and the tie-in comics. And unlike the Blu-ray bonuses and the comics, we don't have to pay a penny for SHIELD as it's on Channel 4. I like enough of it to keep watching. Martin
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Post by primenova on Sept 30, 2015 8:56:01 GMT
We might get AOS3 in the next 3 weeks - I don't expect a 3 month delay like with Gotham.
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Post by Bogatan on May 20, 2016 19:56:38 GMT
I just finished watching season 3. No spoilers. But Ive been thinking about the show this year and something has bugged me. On the one hand I think it has been the strongest season, but something wasn't quite right.
I think the problem is that the show feels very isolated of late. The MCU is built on the interconnected-ness. Tv has always been kept at a distance by the movies, but in the first year Shield did a great job of weaving into TWS narrative.
Since then Netflix has done a good job of building its own TV universe that really doesnt need the movies at all (though Id be all for Fisk in Spiderman)and obviously DC have done the same.
Shield has spent the last 2 years pretty much on its own, I wouldnt say its suffering for it, but it almost might be better at this point if it was a completely seperate world as its not seeming to gain anything from the current situation.
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Post by Toph on May 20, 2016 20:55:40 GMT
Well, most of the people behind the MCU refuse to acknowledge AoS. While it's too much to expect Ironman or Hulk guest spots on AoS due to the unlikeliness of them being able to afford the celebrity guest spot payrolls or special effects, there's nothing stopping Agent May, Director Coulson, or Daisy popping up in SHIELD/Hydra related business in the movies. I personally find it hard to believe that Coulson doesn't have his hands in the Avenger Initiative. Also, I believe Adrianne Palicki was signed to a movie contract to bring Mockingbird into the movies.
But time and again we have creators like Joss Whedon saying that AoS doesn't exist in the MCU. I know Chloe Bennett has been very vocal the past few weeks calling bullshit on it.
Also, AoS isn't doing well in the ratings. Though it's been renewed, it's getting another timeslot shift. Carter just got cancelled, and ABC dropped the upcoming Mockingbird spinoff.
Palicki's really been screwed. She was/may have been signed to a movie contract they never lived up to, and she and Nick Blood were written off AoS to star in their own series, that was cancelled before it even started.
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