Generations Wishlists & Speculation

[Philip Ayres]

The MANY options for repainting Doubledealer:

[Llama God]

They'll go with G1 colours Soundwave. For some reason. I don't know why. But probably just so we don't ever get any of the repaints that would be cool.

[Toph]

WfC3 rumor related

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Battlemaster class should continue, but with a major shift, and renamed Drone Deployers-

Realistic (or whatever aesthetic is being used on the maximals/predacons) beasts modes to weapons.
Scorponok's Cyberbee
Polarclaw's bat
BM Chro, Dillo, and Mol
Lots of different small animals.

Also have the ability to combine into super weapons.

[Toph]

Okay so since Beast Wars are officially on the table, I spent hours assigning modern size classes to every beast era character because of Reasons™

No one wants to see that list so I won't bother anyone with it.
But I realized two things-

One is there are a TON of battlemasters in the beast era. BM Deployers, Scorponok's cyberbee and it's two repaints, Polarclaw's bt and it's two repaints, the four McDonald's guys, and Moon.

The other is that if you play with the sizes of non-important characters, a ton of characters can be retooled into others you wouldn't think of.
A deluxe B'Boom retools well into Optimus Minor. Bonecrusher can reshell into BM Longhorn. That sort of thing.

[Toph]

The only way I would be excited for another G1 Starscream or G1 Optimus mold is if they do something new. (By G1, I mean the Sunbow/Marvel character model)

In Starscream's case, it needs to have three configurations.
1) Standard classic Starscream
2) Conehead retool which does as you would expect (including being able to have the Starscream wings on the leg mounts)
3) And a Leader 1 retool that turns 180 at the waist while folding down the shoulder intakes, and mounting the Starscream wings on the leg like the coneheads.

For Optimus, it would be much like Siege and ER, but with him being designed to combine Unicron Trilogy style with multiple transformers like Jetfire and Grimlock.

[Llama God]

Since this is a wishlist, I'd like to add the wish that toys were actually freely available. I know, I know, I'm talking nonsense here...

[The Doctor]

Like in the Olden Times.

-Ralph

[Toph]

Siege Jetfire retooled as The Last Autobot, and Selects Star Convoy recolored into Actionmaster Optimus Prime

[Toph]

Transformers: The Lost Knights
A new non-g1 continuity. Borrows more strongly from Bayverse. Three factions. Autobots, Decepticons, and Dinobots.

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Story
Long ago the Knights of Cybertron were sent out into the Universe to hunt down and destroy Unicron and his minions. They were amongst the most powerful cybertronians of all. They did not come back.

Cybertron descends into civil war, egged on in secret by Quintessa. Eons pass, and the war finds it's way to Earth. The lost Knights have been discovered, and begin awakening on Earth. Now nicknamed Dinobots.

Having spent countless millennia bathed in Unicron's Primal Energon, the "Dinobots" reawaken, having lost all sense of self.
Autobots and Decepticons both struggle to get the Dinobots on their side. They must first capture the Dinobot, then reawaken the Cybertronian within. The Autobots choose more peaceful routes, the decepticons often resorting to force, by installing BW style shell programming.

Themes
The line would last one and a half, to two years.

Dinobots are technorganic and scientifically accurate.
Decepticons carry a Mad Max/Poacher hybrid theme.
Autobots hold a exploration/conservationist/environmentalist theme.

Megatron is very much a straight up adaptation of his DotM design, but there's more than a smattering of BW personality in there. He's much more crafty than most Megatrons.
Bumblebee takes his alt mode inspiration from the Captain Planet geocruiser.

Lots of girl TFs! (Can't transfer which from my notes without wrecking the flow of the list. But happy to add on if asked)
I don't really intend there to be three Titans and three Commanders in a two year period. Just that all three factions have an option.

Toys
A= Autobot aligned
D= Decepticon aligned
Q= Quintesson/Unicron aligned

Core/Legends class (8 waves of three. 24 total)
Dinobots:
· Slash (A)— Raptor
· Archadis— Raptor (Slash repaint)
· Hardhead (D)— Pachycephalosaurus
· Seaspray— Ichthyosaur
· Sawback— Dimetrodon
· Catilla (A)— Smilodon
· Glyph (A)—Protoceratops
· Dead End (D)— Nautilus
· Scrounge (A)— Nautilus (Dead End repaint)
· Skydive— Tupandactylus
· Splashdown— Ichthyosaur (seaspay repaint)
· Brimstone (D)— Nyctosaurus (Skydive retool)

Autobots:
· Bumblebee— Scout Drone
· Beachcomber— Beach Buggy
· Arcee— Motorcycle (Ransack retool)
· Signal Flare— Radar Vehicle
· Waverider— "Tracking" Boat (Thunderblast repaint)
· Anode— Biplane

Decepticons:
· Bugbite— Scout Drone (Bumblebee repaint)
· Ransack— Motorcycle
· Ravage— Jaguar (Catilla retool)
· Thunderblast— Gunner Boat
· Brushguard— Armored Buggy (Beachcomber retool)
· Sixshot— Maser Tank (Signal Flare repaint)

Deluxe (8 waves of four. Each wave consists of 2 Dinobots, 1 Autobot, and 1 Decepticon)
Dinobots:
· Terrorsaur (D)— Pteranodon
· Laserbeak— Pteranodon (Terrorsaur repaint)
· Swoop (A)— Aerotitan (Terrorsaur retool)
· Ripclaw— Therizinosaur
· Clobber (D)— Ankylosaurus
· Longhorn— Nasutoceratops
· Backstop— Pachyrhinosaurus (Longhorn retool)
· Saberback— Kentrosaurus
· Jawbreaker— Dilophosaurus
· Rippersnapper— Baryonyx (heavy Jawbreaker retool)
· Longarm— Plesiosaur
· Slitherfang (D)— Mosasaur (heavy Longarm retool)
· Groundpounder— Europasaurus (heavy Saberback retool)
· Steeljaw— Dunkleosteus
· Buzzsaw— Heliocopreon (dunk retool)
· Hun-Gurr (D)— Majungasaurus

Autobots:
· Hound— Offroad jeep (Swindle retool)
· Nautica— Submersible
· Hotshot— Sportscar (heavy Lockdown retool)
· Tracks— Sportscar
· Windblade— Hoverjet (Nautica retool)
· Powerglide— Spy Drone (Soundwave retool)
· Daytrader— Junk pickup
· Strongarm— Pickup (Daytrader retool)

Decepticons:
· Lockdown— Armored Car
· Crumplezone— Triwheel offroader
· Soundwave— Predator Drone
· Swindle— Offroad jeep
· Shadow Striker— Armored Car (Tracks retool)
· Dirtboss— Triwheel offroader (Crumplezone repaint)
· Airachnid— Attack Chopper
· Submarauder— Submersible (minor Nautica retool)

Voyager (6 waves of two. 12 total)
Dinobots:
· Gutcruncher (D)— Carnotaurus
· Snarl (A)— Stegosaurus
· Slug (A)— Triceratops
· Skullgrin— Kronosaurus
· Prowl— Allosaurus (Gutcruncher retool)
· Bludgeon (D)— Stegosaurus (Snarl retool)

Autobots:
· Ironhide— Armored Truck (Bonecrusher retool)
· Ratchet— S&R Humvee
· Evac— Rescue Chopper (heavy shockwave retool)

Decepticons:
· Nemesis Primal (Q)— Woolly Mammoth
· Shockwave— Submersible
· Bonecrusher— Whatever he was in the movie

Leader (5 waves. 8 total)
Dinobots:
· Grimlock (A)— Tyrannosaurus
· Scorn— Spinosaurus
· Strafe— Quetzalcoatlus
· Dreadwing (D)— Hatzegopteryx (Minor Strafe retool)
· Snapdragon— Spinosaurus (Scorn repaint)

Autobots:
· Riptide— Boat

Decepticons:
· Megatron— Armored Truck
· Wreckage— Truck (Megatron retool)

Commander
Dinobots:
· Slog— Apatosaurus

Autobots:
· Optimus Prime— Voyager scaled truck/robot. Large "dinosaur transport and medical containment" trailer playset. Can convert to powersuit for Optimus.

Decepticons:
· Blackout— Helicopter

Titan
Dinobots:
· Hightower—Argentinosaurus

Autobots:
· Broadside— Battleship

Decepticons:
· Quintesson Citybot— Corkscrew ship, c'thulu robot

Selects

Sets
Beast Warriors
· Trinox— Triceratops (Slug repaint)
· Tigatron— Smilodon (Catilla repaint)

Polar Clash
· Cryotek (D)— Cryolophosaurus (Jawbreaker retool)
· Armorhide (A)— Antarctopelta (Clobber retool)

Jungle Escape (Jurassic Park homage)
· T-Wrecks— Tyrannosaurus (minor Grimlock retool)
· Rollbar (D)— Offroad Jeep (Swindle repaint)

Desert Battle
· Razorclaw (D)— Velociraptor (Slash repaint)
· Lug (A)— Protoceratops (Glyph repaint)

Aerial Combat
· Skyshadow— Aerotitan (minor Swoop retool)
· Slipstream (D)— Biplane (minor Anode retool)

Wreck & Rule
· Whirl (A)— Attack Chopper (Airachnid repaint)
· Roadbuster (A)— Armored Humvee (Ratchet retool)

Stand alones
· Optimus Primal (A)— Woolly Mammoth (Nemesis repaint)
· Tap-Out (A)— Drone (minor Bumblebee retool)
· Undermine (D)— Spinosaurus (Scorn repaint)
· Fractyl— Pteranodon (Terrorsaur repaint)

[Toph]

I was torn between putting this here, or in the Fiction section.
If someone does move it into the fiction section, please notify me so I don't think it was deleted or I think I imagined making it.

[Llama God]

Imagined making what..? ;-)

I like the amount of effort you put into that, and it's a great idea. The Optimus idea would be a great playset/figure combination.

[Toph]

Sept 11, 2020 12:00:33 GMT Llama God said:

Imagined making what..? ;-)

I like the amount of effort you put into that, and it's a great idea. The Optimus idea would be a great playset/figure combination.

The discussion about Kingdom Dinobot and Megatron set this in motion. I have ideas for the follow up which would go full into Quintessa and her minions, and perhaps introduce a few Pleistocene animals, but need a break before deciding if I really wannna go into that, lol.

I'm proud of a couple of these! Particularly a few of the Selects sets.
A few others (like Riptide), I'm more ambivalent towards.

[Toph]

For some of the names you may not recognize:
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Tupandactylus


Nyctosaurus


Aerotitan


Therizinosaur


Nasutoceratops


Europasaurus (this model is supposedly full sized)


Dilophosaurus (2020)


Majungasaurus's searches are ruined by pop culture because of course cannibal theropod, so it's really hard to find good images in the public domain. But it's a medium/small very ugly theropod.

Heliocopreon


Kronosaurus


Spinosaurus (2020)


Hatzegopteryx

[Toph]

Since Bluestreak has three canon decoes, while hasbro is hellbent on only ever doing the ugliest of the three, and Hasbro now seems to be on the "unused diaclone decoes= new characters" bandwagon, we need a new Gen Selects Diaclone Twopack:

Silverstreak and Cobalt
Twin repaints of Bluestreak

· Silverstreak- silver toy deco. Silverstreak is always getting confused with Bluestreak
· Cobalt- blue diaclone deco. Was not part of the original Ark mission, but for some reason everyone seems to think she was, and even some other Arkers even seem to remember her being there.

[Pinwig]

Oh that's a nice idea. I think I'd buy that.

[Toph]

And neither of them have ever met Bluestreak!

[Benn]

Oct 24, 2020 18:52:35 GMT Toph said:

Since Bluestreak has three canon decoes, while hasbro is hellbent on only ever doing the ugliest of the three,

Personal preference and all, but I prefer Bluestreak's canon to the Silverstreak deco.

[Toph]

A dull Warm Gray with a Flat Black hood and roof. To me it makes him look like a beat up clunker with primer instead of actual paint.
The only thing that helps is the red robot parts.

It's still boring, but at least a shiny metallic silver to replace the primer colors would make him look like the restoration is complete.

[Toph]

For funsies
Transformer X Crossover

Jurassic Park:
· Tyrannosaur- Repaint of Kingdom Megatron
· Park Jeep- Retool of Studio Series jeep Bumblebee
· Explorer- Retool of Studio Crowbar

TMNT:
· Party Wagon- Retool of ER Ironhide
· Technodrome- Retool of Armada Unicron

Stranger Things:
· Hopper's Truck- Minor retool of ER Hoist

Ghostbusters:
· Ghosts- Fossilizers cast in glow-in-the-dark or translucent plastic
· Slimer- Retool of TR Sharkticon

Back to the Future:
· Optimus Prime 2015- Siege Optimus minor retool, ER Trailer major retool
· Timetrax- Siege Astrotrain retool into BttF3 time train

ALIEN:
· Xenomorph Queen- Kingdom Paleotrex retool
· Xenomorph Drones- Kingdom Vertebreak retool

[The Huff]

Yes!

And a mold for the Party Wagon could then also be retooled into the Mystery Machine and A-Team van somehow.

Would also love to see a Star Trek Transformer after all this time.

[Toph]

I've thought really really hard on a Trek crossover toy, and they all would require brand new molds, except one-

Siege Ironhide heavy retool into the TNG, ST:V, or reboot Movie shuttle.

While I'd love that, I don't think that's a strong enough vehicle to get them to do it.

[Toph]

Evolution of Amazon's Galactic Odyssey subline-
The Axiom Nexus:
Because while Hasbro is generally laser focused on doing Sunbow G1 homages over and over again, Axiom Nexus will be "Parallel Reality" repaints.

All in their Marvel Colors:

· Bumblebee vs Starscream- Netflix Bumblebee in Yellow and Blue, and ER Starscream in off white, bright red, and dark blue

· Prowl vs Soundwave- Netflix Soundwave in lavender, and ER Prowl in white and blue

· Ratchet vs Megatron- ER Ratchet and ER Megatron with their properly colored heads!

· Carwash of Doom!- Selects Greasepit as the carwash, with Siege Ratbat & Frenzy, and Netflix Laserbeak & Ravage in their marvel colors

· King Grimlock- Studio 86 Grimlock with yellow, and blue. Dropping Wheelie in place of a sword and crown.

[Llama God]

All great ideas. I am sad now that they will never happen. Give me properly coloured heads! Or... don't.

[Toph]

Okay so. Hasbro owns Wizards of the Coast, so they own D&D. And they're always looking for little gimmick D&D crossovers.

So why not a full line of D&D/TF crossovers?
Between new molds, retools, and clever repaints, six releases a year. Redesign transformers with specific D&D character tropes in mind. Each one comes with a character sheet to play in a game.

Galvatron as the King, and the central campaign villain.
Cyclonus as his Dark Knight
Scourge as his visier, an evil Wizard.

Grimlock redesigned with a warforged Orc in mind
Bumblebee as a halfling thief
Brawn as a dwarf
Blurr as an elven archer
Optimus as a Paladin

Retooled or retainted monsters-
Kingdom Optimus Primal as a yeti (heavy retool, plus new head based on mutant mask)
Kingdom Blackarachnia repaint as a spider witch
Fossilizer multipack as generic skeleton monsters

That sort of stuff.

[Toph]

So Kingdom Megatron's beast mode parts are made from or plated with textured rubbery PVC material.

I realized how to do pretender updates.
Similar to RotF Bludgeon and Generations Skullgrin, go from shell to vehicle. Similar, but not quite. Those were just robots inspired by their shells.

These would be transformers trying to pass as humans or aliens/monsters, wearing armor.
So the best traditional TFs have the robots made of alt mode bits in decorative ways. These would be trying to make the alt mode not obvious. Hide the alt mode instead of hide the robot.

The alt mode is a mobility tool or weapon, while the disguise is the robot mode. Cockpits, wheels, wings, cannons, if they cant fold away inside the robot mode, then they're removed and used as weapons, or are mounted in ways that approximates some worn weapon.
Think the ultra pretenders like Vroom and Thunderwing. Only for all of them, with no "inner robot"
All organic parts are made from or plated with the same kind of textured rubberish PVC the Megatron uses.

[Llama God]

I like that idea. The alternative, as inspired by someone else in a conversation I was having on Twitter, is to use Weaponisers for updated Pretender inner robots. The benefit to this is that since they come apart anyway, you could have them disassembled in the shell, which would allow the parts to be spread across various parts of the shell - limbs, etc - and thus allow for a fully articulated shell for once.

[Toph]

Cicadacon:



Ramhorn:



Seaclamp:

[Toph]

SS86 Blurr- Prebeast Manterror
Slender robot mode, arm kibble is very mantid.

SS86 Kup- Prebeast Waspinator
Same basic shapes and layouts in robot mode, plus removable limbs.
Also, nothing ever said he was a flier before taking a beast mode, and with TFA Wasp, he has precedent.

[Toph]

SS86 Jazz- Cybertron Crosswise
New head, Car front end, roof and doors (new engineering for them, too), and new gun.

[Toph]

Transformers Collaboration

Transformers vs Evil Dead

Hotrod loses the Matrix to Bludgeon. Rather than telling anyone about it, he tracks Bludgeon to Earth, though the decepticon has gone to ground.

He tracks an energon signature to a little town in the ass end of nowhere, but ends up losing it.

Meanwhile, Ash Williams meets a hot little thing named Alice, who's more that merts the eye. She manages to steal the Necronomicon from him, and takes it to her master, Bludgeon.
Bludgeon combines the Necronomicon with the energies of the Matrix, and takes command of the Deadites, and all the evil contained in those pages.
With the lifeforce of Primus corrupted, the Deadites have powers they never had before. Able to possess objects and convert them into twisted imitations of cybertronian life. Can Hotrod and Ash get over their egos and work together?

Toys:
· Boomstick- the signature piece. Ash's beloved Delta possessed by a deadite, and reformed into a twisted robot copy of Ash, though later is purified by Hotrod and blessed with a spark of his own.
There are a few options.
-Heavy retool of Studio Series SS-01 '76 Camaro Bumblebee
-Retool of Cybertron Downshift
-Heavy retool of ER Runamuck

· Hotrod- SS86 Hotrod. Could be anywhere from a straight unchanged repurpose of the existing toy, to a repaint, to light retool, to heavy retool.
-Heavy retool would be outright changing the vehicle mode to earth mode.
-light retool would be to give it Evil Dead appropriate battle damage.
-repaint would be bloodying him up

· Bluelight- Repaint of Gen Select Greasepit into the S-Mart come to life

· Bludgeon and the Necronomicon- Beast Hunters Shark Megatron with a new head and weapon. Bludgeon's final form, warped, enhanced, and twisted by the Necronomicon.
The Necronomicon itself would be a retool of Botbot Professor Wellread.

· Deadites- A multipack of the Kingdom fossilizers as Bludgeon's Army of Darkness.