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Post by legios on Sept 21, 2014 18:59:15 GMT
Quite looking forward to this, and tempted to pick it up. Not to replace my original Transformers Universe book - that was a gift and will continue to be treasured. No, this will nicely supplement it and hopefully be a more complete source which can also become my reference copy whilst the other becomes the "library" copy.
Karl
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Post by primenova on Sept 22, 2014 9:01:22 GMT
I already know that & have read them but don't have them in print (apart from the DW series) so would be picking this up & I'm sure there is one I've not seen.
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Sept 29, 2014 23:08:41 GMT
Preordering now live at Amazon. All units deploy!
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Sept 30, 2014 22:36:41 GMT
Preorder in!
Andy
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Post by inflatabledalek on Oct 7, 2014 10:24:28 GMT
Yeah, though I've got the original trade and scans, this is both nice for newer fans and still an essential purchase for me as those profiles are the backbone of the entire franchise, they deserve a la-de-dah good quality modern reprint.
Also, it's nice the Joe crossover is in there as a bonus for those of us who bought the Classic Joe books and didn't really want to splash out on the first Joe/TF trade when it was half material we already owned. Huzzah!
That'll mean the only G1 Marvel material I don't own in trade as well as the original issues will be the TF: TM adaptation (for which the Winter Special is more than enough) and Big Broadcast (which I suspect may wind up in the Space Pirates UK book, if Man of Iron was worth reprinting in both series just because of Nel's piss poor colours then two entirely original pages might well swing it for that one).
Now, one big chunky G2 book with Ghosts in please.
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Post by Pinwig on Oct 7, 2014 21:09:48 GMT
Now, one big chunky G2 book with Ghosts in please. That would be lovely. A complete works edition with the five GI Joe related issues too. It deserves it really; reading G2 in one sitting shows how fab it is. |
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Oct 7, 2014 21:15:53 GMT
Yes, I second this, but IDW have no interest in reprinting G2 as a whole. Whenever they open up for q and a's I generally find a way to get the question to them and the answer is that they have no plans.
Disappointing.
Andy
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Post by Pinwig on Oct 7, 2014 21:55:07 GMT
Madness. I don't get that. Realistically, what's the difference? it's still Marvel and it's still Transformers. They're mad.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Oct 7, 2014 21:57:43 GMT
I wonder if it contradicting their own Regeneration One as a continuation of the Marvel comic has something to do with it?
I've got the Titan volumes on my shelf. They'll do me :-)
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Oct 7, 2014 22:12:14 GMT
No it's not that.
I've asked for years, long before RG1 was on the horizon.
Andy
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Oct 8, 2014 6:21:20 GMT
Yes, IDW don't mind reprinting UK and movie era US stories that contradict RG1.
Martin
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Post by inflatabledalek on Oct 8, 2014 16:12:31 GMT
Plus they've reprinted bits of G2 (the Bludgeon Dies Tales of Earth two parter was in the 30th anniversary book and I've a feeling there's been a couple of other bits here and there) and James Roberts is planning for the Fleetway G2 stuff to be the final UK Classics book, so I would hope "No Plans" just means they've not thought that far ahead yet rather than a sudden and bizarre aversion to money for old rope.
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Oct 10, 2014 22:06:47 GMT
At some point we will get it. No idea when though.
We just have to keep asking whenever the opportunity presents itself!
Andy
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Post by Philip Ayres on Apr 19, 2015 20:57:56 GMT
Just got off eBay for £14.76 delivered: www.ebay.co.uk/itm/231536039533The seller is reliable, brought plenty of trades from them recently at cheaper than Amazon prices. Worth an email to see if they have any more at that price? |
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Apr 22, 2015 15:19:32 GMT
They listed another 1 so I have snagged it!
Andy
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Post by The Doctor on Apr 22, 2015 16:27:17 GMT
2 copies in FPE at monster price. My Hub agent has one on order for me.
-Ralph
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Apr 22, 2015 17:25:29 GMT
To be fair I have your preorder in since they announced they had the profiles...
Andy
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Post by The Doctor on Apr 22, 2015 21:55:07 GMT
It will be great to have all the profiles in one book. I daresay I will double-dip for the digital version. Money where my mouth is.
-Ralph
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Apr 22, 2015 22:20:57 GMT
I too will double dip. Digital is handy when you need to the material for reference.
Andy
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Apr 23, 2015 12:36:26 GMT
On the one hand, this is one of the most important TF books ever published as it is the only one to collect all the original character profiles, and everyone should buy it and own it as the definitive reference text.
On the other hand, like all the volumes in this series, the art is pixelated and the outer packaging and text commentary uninspiring, so in terms of quality it is no substitute for the original TFU trade, despite having twice the content.
Also, as usual for this series, colours have been tweaked, most notably so that Soundwave has gone from purple to blue (and Ravage from blue to purple), and the original dot colouring is now solid colour. This is arguably a good thing, but nonetheless an alteration.
Nevertheless, the text is a joy to have in a single volume at last.
Martin
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Post by The Doctor on Apr 23, 2015 12:53:10 GMT
Why the fuck has the colouring been changed? It's not a fucking Sunbow book!
No excuse for pixillated repro in this day and age. Amateurs.
-Ralph
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Apr 23, 2015 12:57:31 GMT
Yes, black lines (particularly frame boxes) and text are visibly staircased throughout this series, signalling a low resolution scan. But only when you look closely.
Ravage has gone from blue to purple, Kickback now has a completely white face rather than a blue lower half (though Perceptor remains with a blue lower half to his face). It's a bit random.
But the text is Budiansky gold!!!
Martin
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Apr 23, 2015 13:12:26 GMT
Apart from the spines, TF Classics and TF UK Classics are so different, starting with the front covers, it's as if they're produced by different publishers. TF UK Classics has been criticised for containing reduced size comic strips, but at least they are high-resolution photographic scans, with no recolouring or visible traces of digitisation.
Martin
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Apr 23, 2015 15:12:46 GMT
The problem with the restoration job that has been done on the books, is that it was arbitrary and half assed.
It is incredibly frustrating when you see the care that goes into some of the IDW collections and they just pull shit like this.
Andy
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Post by The Doctor on Apr 23, 2015 19:09:11 GMT
I will still greatly enjoy this book though because of the text but yeah IDW are variable with their repro quality.
-Ralph
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Post by Philip Ayres on Apr 24, 2015 13:28:29 GMT
TF classics v8 has just arrived, and it's the collected Transformers Universe I've been waiting DECADES for.
Unfortunately IDW have been at home to Mr Cock Up when preparing this.
All the newer entires from the TF comic are sorted into their alphabetical position. I haven't checked if they're all there yet but I can't find the ommited entires that have been discovered since.
Unfortunately the Movie entries are still at the back of the volume. I can understand this because this was how they were initially printed but if the newer entries have been sorted in then these should be too.
Worse still the three new entries from late in the alphabet Weirdwolf, Wideload and Windsweeper have been filtered into the movie entries instead of being in their correct place!
Really could have done better IDW!
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Apr 25, 2015 8:50:54 GMT
It's funny, they've gone to the trouble of inserting all the published TFU Volume 2 entries into the Volume 1 alphabetical order, but left the non-alphabetically placed Volume 1 entries (Steeljaw and the Movie characters) in their non-alphabetical positions. And they've broken Punch and Counter Punch into two separate entries so you have to look him up under C to get his weaknesses, and P for his abilities.
But no entries appear to be missing so far, which is the main thing.
Martin
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Post by Jaymz on Apr 25, 2015 13:06:36 GMT
Apart from the spines, TF Classics and TF UK Classics are so different, starting with the front covers, it's as if they're produced by different publishers. TF UK Classics has been criticised for containing reduced size comic strips, but at least they are high-resolution photographic scans, with no recolouring or visible traces of digitisation. Martin I did a few of the scans for UK Classics and Lloyd does an amazing job on cleaning them up for publication. I don't think they have fans working on the "cleanup" for the US Classics, we seem to care a bit more. I noticed the Weirdwolf, Wideload and Windsweeper being out of order too. And I'm not entirely sure why the movie ones have to be segregated when they could have just been alphabetical. Also, I really don't see the point of putting GI Joe and the Transformers in the volume. If they wanted to be completist with this stuff, then put the Blackthorne stuff in there too. Personally, what I wanted is Universe as its own separate book. Get all the profiles that had been produced in order, pay Budiansky to use his unpublished profiles, get Guidi to do artwork for them [his retro style would be perfect]. Maybe even finish off the 87/88 guys, ask someone like Roberts to write them. Bonus material could be some of the original art for the profiles, I've seen a few out there [Kup and Trypticon were on ebay recently, there's a few posted on comicartfans.com], I even own one that I'd happily scan. |
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Apr 25, 2015 21:20:43 GMT
I think the problem is also that Digikore also rather than just do the restoration are doing colour corrections and as arbritrary as they may be, whatever the technique is it destroys some of the linework.
Such a shame, as the books could have been a standout, if the same care had went into them as UK Classics.
Andy
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Apr 26, 2015 20:32:22 GMT
I think the problem is also that Digikore also rather than just do the restoration are doing colour corrections and as arbritrary as they may be, whatever the technique is it destroys some of the linework. Unicron is the worst example of this as his art is the most reduced in size from the original drawing. In the Marvel TFU trade this results in thin lines but no loss of detail. In the IDW book there is a minimum line thickness due to the scanning resolution, so the detailed lines on his body are lost. Still, IDW gave us The Complete Ark and we can go there for superior albeit uncoloured versions of the art, including art missing from every version of TFU, such as Divebomb's eagle mode. Latest observation re: ordering... although Counter Punch has been split from Punch, Rodimus Prime is still next to Hot Rod. Martin |
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