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Post by Llama God on Jun 16, 2020 20:38:05 GMT
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Post by Shockprowl on Jun 16, 2020 22:55:45 GMT
AAAARRRRGGHHHHH!!!!
WHAT THE HELL IS THAT?!?!
SCARED THE SHIT OUT OF ME!!!
#LLAMA'S FIREPOWER
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Post by Benn on Jun 17, 2020 1:06:12 GMT
Pew pew pew!
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Post by Llama God on Jun 17, 2020 12:45:04 GMT
AAAARRRRGGHHHHH!!!! WHAT THE HELL IS THAT?!?! Courage!
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Post by The Doctor on Jun 17, 2020 14:52:48 GMT
"You're never disabled so long as you have courage."
-Chip Chase
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Post by Shockprowl on Jun 17, 2020 16:09:23 GMT
"And you're never defeated so long as you have Firepower!"
CHOOOOOMM!!!
-Ian Cook
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Post by Benn on Jun 17, 2020 18:54:49 GMT
So, what is the most important stat?
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Jun 17, 2020 19:00:08 GMT
So, what is the most important stat? Luck? Fan popularity? Martin
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Post by Benn on Jun 17, 2020 20:06:27 GMT
I dislike luck, it's the hardest stat to raise to 255
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Post by Shockprowl on Jun 17, 2020 20:41:45 GMT
So, what is the most important stat? Intelligence Errr, no, errr- StrengthUmmm, sometimes... CourageWindow to the soul... OH GOSH I DON'T KNOW!!!
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Post by The Doctor on Jun 17, 2020 20:54:09 GMT
So, what is the most important stat? Love. -Ralph
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Post by Llama God on Jun 18, 2020 11:00:54 GMT
So, what is the most important stat? Stamina. Oh yeah.
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Post by Shockprowl on Jul 16, 2020 6:53:09 GMT
SKILL See Also: Tech Specs tmukhub.proboards.com/thread/7971Online Tech Spec Chart tmukhub.proboards.com/post/418738/threadStrength tmukhub.proboards.com/thread/10886Intelligence tmukhub.proboards.com/thread/10888Speed tmukhub.proboards.com/thread/10895Endurance tmukhub.proboards.com/thread/10907Rank tmukhub.proboards.com/thread/10927Courage tmukhub.proboards.com/post/409230/threadFirepower tmukhub.proboards.com/post/413708/threadSkill tmukhub.proboards.com/post/417214/thread
Skill. SKILL! Skill, the final Techspecs value, had particular interest to the young Shockprowl and his brother. Possibly because we weren't entirely sure what it referred to, and possibly because at that time 'skill' was used often in general conversation to communicate that something was fun, desirable or simply 'cool'. "Aw that was skill!" "I'm so skill!" and so on. Now, Skill refers to a Cybertronian's ability to... well, do stuff. Accurately. It's a fascinating addition to the Techspecs values that allows us real insight into the character's overall competence. Several high Skills are recalled- Jazz, Ratchet, Ravage, Soundwave, Optimus Prime, Mirage. But also some lower Skills, such as the warrior twins Sideswipe and Sunstreaker, who had a mere 6. As competent warriors, could one be allowed to be surprised by these lower values? Windcharger also only has a 6. Does that mean he isn't very accurate with his magnetic powers? Or is it more of a reflection that his powers are difficult to control? Brawn's 3 I felt was harsh, especially as it is one of the lowest Skills ever that I can remember. Even Motor Master managed a 4. Megatron 'only' got an 8! Grimlock a 10! Skill. It has a certain... panache.
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Post by Llama God on Jul 16, 2020 12:26:08 GMT
Poor Brawn - but then I guess that Enemy Within does show him as a little clumsy, so maybe that's what it means. All power, no finesse...
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Post by Shockprowl on Jul 16, 2020 12:41:59 GMT
It's the claw arms probably.
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Post by The Doctor on Jul 16, 2020 12:47:32 GMT
Work, work, work, that's all he ever does! And casually kills humans.
-Ralph
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Jul 16, 2020 15:53:33 GMT
It's a difficult one, since everyone has different skill levels for different tasks. You could be skilful at shooting but unskilful at flying or driving.
The only way of interpreting the tech-specs rating that makes sense to me is to relate it to the robot's primary function. So Optimus Prime has skill 10 as a commander, Bluestreak has skill 7 as a gunner (but may have skill 2 as a scientist), Ratchet has skill 10 as a medic (but may have skill 2 as a warrior), Prowl has skill 9 as a military strategist (but may have skill 3 as a spy). Laserbeak has skill 9 as an interrogator (but may have skill 1 as a leader).
Warriors tend to have middling skill ratings because they are not the best warriors. The best warriors are the leaders, whose skill ratings relating to their leadership functions but would also be high if they had warrior functions.
Brawn has skill 3, meaning he's not that great at demolition, 'cos he has tiny arms and very little firepower. His tech-specs say he can knock down a small building with one punch. Can't most TFs do that? Transformers who are high-explosives experts or who can transform into wrecking-ball machines would do better at demolitions. Brawn needs a different function. If his function was off-road reconnaissance his skill rating might be higher.
Martin
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Post by The Huff on Jul 18, 2020 20:31:01 GMT
Brawn certainly shouldn't have the function of Space Shuttle Bouncer.
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Post by Pinwig on Jul 26, 2020 18:54:47 GMT
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Post by Benn on Jul 26, 2020 19:14:01 GMT
I prefer the full number approach, perhaps rounding up or down depending on which direction the line is slanting, but if half digits are easier then take that way!
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Post by The Doctor on Jul 26, 2020 21:24:45 GMT
Round up!
-Ralph
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Post by Shockprowl on Jul 26, 2020 21:46:58 GMT
Yes there are a few 'halfs', aren't they. Did Shockwave have a half?
I agree with Urzu, round it to the one it seems to be closest to.
Exciting work this, Pins! We will assist you!
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Post by Pinwig on Jul 26, 2020 21:51:16 GMT
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Post by Benn on Jul 26, 2020 22:49:41 GMT
I’d call that a 5
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Post by Pinwig on Jul 26, 2020 22:54:26 GMT
Right. That gives me context for the others. Cool!
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Post by Pinwig on Jul 26, 2020 23:03:00 GMT
Exciting work this, Pins! We will assist you! Might not be that exciting, but it would be nice to have a tool that allowed you to filter and sort tech specs so you can compare stats across groups of characters. Should have a G1 version of that up and running in a day or so. The mechanism is working, just need to finish adding the data.
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Post by Shockprowl on Jul 27, 2020 6:54:27 GMT
Ahh is it his strength! Yes I remember now. Like, 9 point... something... Overkill's Firepower- see what you mean! But I agree with Urzu, it's a 5.
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Post by Benn on Jul 27, 2020 7:42:31 GMT
What does Action Master Shockwave's strength say?
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Jul 27, 2020 7:46:38 GMT
One question is, do you give any weight to non-official or semi-official guides that have been put together by other people. For example, the original Japanese Generations book has all the tech-specs listed numerically. You could argue that's as close a thing there is to an official guide. Then there are websites such as www.tfu.info/alpha/index.htmMartin
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Post by Pinwig on Jul 27, 2020 8:34:20 GMT
I've been looking around at the various sites that have tech specs but I think it's worth double checking everything. I did some spot checks on tfu.info yesterday but I'm not sure I trust it, for example I looked at Beachcomber and they have his endurance as 7.5, which is clearly wrong as the actual card says 9.
I'll have a look at the generations book. Once Hasbro G1 is in, my next job was to compare to Takara in case of differences and then add the Takara only characters. With relevant fields added everything can be kept separate if desired.
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